VLC86 Posted 10 April 2018 Posted 10 April 2018 19 minutes ago, Wymeswold fox said: Just glad that they aren't brain-damaged to the level where they're unable to communicate in anyway. They may well be monitored for the rest of their lives considering what was thrown on them. Will be interesting to see what they can remember, if anything, from the situation or if they had suspicions themselves before the incident took place of any individual they believe could've been behind it. By monitored do you mean health wise or how likely they are to die in mysterious circumstances?
Wymsey Posted 10 April 2018 Posted 10 April 2018 7 minutes ago, Costock_Fox said: By monitored do you mean health wise or how likely they are to die in mysterious circumstances? The former. Certain authorities are apparently discussing the best way for them to live (either change of name, police protection etc), whilst she's in a secret location whilsf her Father remains hospitalised, after all of this. Quite doubt that the latter will happen unless they duo decide to have their own ideas of how to live their life without protection act (which seems an unlikely idea really).
VLC86 Posted 10 April 2018 Posted 10 April 2018 1 minute ago, Wymeswold fox said: The former. Certain authorities are apparently discussing the best way for them to live (either change of name, police protection etc) after all of this. Quite doubt that the latter will happen unless they duo decide to have their own ideas of how to live their life without protection act (which seems an unlikely idea really). Change of name wouldn’t stop the Russians.
Beechey Posted 11 April 2018 Posted 11 April 2018 20 hours ago, Costock_Fox said: Change of name wouldn’t stop the Russians. He means a new identity, and it works quite well (why else would it exist). Grigory Rodchenkov is still alive for example.
Wymsey Posted 11 April 2018 Posted 11 April 2018 https://news.sky.com/story/amp/nerve-agent-attack-russian-tv-crew-kicked-out-of-salisbury-hospital-after-appalling-stunt-11326162
Wymsey Posted 11 April 2018 Posted 11 April 2018 Skripal junior rejects Russian assistance for now. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43733765 Perhaps best if she declines any future support offer from them, considering the strong rumours that they were behind it.
Beechey Posted 11 April 2018 Posted 11 April 2018 Well golly gee, sounds like that obviously fake phone call to her cousin in Russia that Russian state TV showed repeatedly was fake. She says here her father is still seriously ill, yet 6 or 7 days ago allegedly said her father and her were both okay.
Bellend Sebastian Posted 12 April 2018 Posted 12 April 2018 On 10/04/2018 at 10:16, Bellend Sebastian said: Great news to see that Yulia Skripal is out of hospital. The question on my lips now has to be: will we be lovers? The silence remains deafening, both in terms of answers to my question and contact from Yulia herself. I am starting to have some doubts over what she's done with her eyebrows, so maybe it's no bad thing
m4DD0gg Posted 12 April 2018 Posted 12 April 2018 This whole spy thing is nearly as bad as whats going on in Syria with false flags. The whole thing stinks to high heaven.
Beechey Posted 12 April 2018 Posted 12 April 2018 39 minutes ago, m4DD0gg said: This whole spy thing is nearly as bad as whats going on in Syria with false flags. The whole thing stinks to high heaven.
m4DD0gg Posted 12 April 2018 Posted 12 April 2018 2 minutes ago, Beechey said: Zero proof and zero evidence.
Beechey Posted 12 April 2018 Posted 12 April 2018 4 minutes ago, m4DD0gg said: Zero proof. You mean you've seen none? Let me get the heads of MI5, MI6 and GCHQ on the phone so they can quell m4DD0gg's conspiracy theories by providing him with the evidence that got 28 other countries to expel Russian diplomats. Relevant.
m4DD0gg Posted 12 April 2018 Posted 12 April 2018 Just now, Beechey said: Quick, let me get the heads of MI5, MI6 and GCHQ on the phone so they can quell m4DD0gg's conspiracy theories by providing him with the proof that got 25 other countries to expel Russian diplomats. Exactly do you not see that?! There is this constant and i mean constant barrage of crap thrown toward russia. There is way more a foot here than meets the eye which i suspect is related to the mess that is the petro dollar. Any country that wants away from that is ****ed over. Next you will be telling me Syria is about freedom of people and not the Gas line that the west want to run straight through that country.
Beechey Posted 12 April 2018 Posted 12 April 2018 3 minutes ago, m4DD0gg said: Exactly do you not see that?! There is this constant and i mean constant barrage of crap thrown toward russia. There is way more a foot here than meets the eye which i suspect is related to the mess that is the petro dollar. Any country that wants away from that is ****ed over. Next you will be telling me Syria is about freedom of people and not the Gas line that the west want to run straight through that country. What else is the barrage of crap? Was Crimea never invaded, or Georgia never invaded? Was MH17 not shot down using Russian provided weaponry? Are those 10,000-20,000 Russian soldiers in Ukraine really only there on a holiday? Has Russia not been imprisoning political activists and dissidents? Has Russia never done extranational assassinations?
m4DD0gg Posted 12 April 2018 Posted 12 April 2018 1 minute ago, Beechey said: What else is the barrage of crap? Was Crimea never invaded, or Georgia never invaded? Was MH17 not shot down using Russian provided weaponry? Are those 10,000-20,000 Russian soldiers in Ukraine really only there on a holiday? The fact that their economy has been virtually destroyed by the west because Russia and many many more countries want a fairer 'global' currency. The Ukraine.........well that is down right text book. They meddled and meddled and meddled in something that was not theirs to meddle in and got burnt big time. If they had not meddled in the first place then i suspect that the follow on events of crimea, mh17 etc would not have happened. Seriously what the **** would the US or even the English government had done if the Russians started interfering heavily in Canadian, Mexican, Scottish politics. Cuba is a classic example.
Beechey Posted 12 April 2018 Posted 12 April 2018 10 minutes ago, m4DD0gg said: The fact that their economy has been virtually destroyed by the west because Russia and many many more countries want a fairer 'global' currency. The Ukraine.........well that is down right text book. They meddled and meddled and meddled in something that was not theirs to meddle in and got burnt big time. If they had not meddled in the first place then i suspect that the follow on events of crimea, mh17 etc would not have happened. Seriously what the **** would the US or even the English government had done if the Russians started interfering heavily in Canadian, Mexican, Scottish politics. Cuba is a classic example. Jesus Christ. The Russian economy tanked primarily because the price of oil tanked from >$100 per barrel to $30 per barrel. In 2012 the oil and gas industries accounted for 16% of GDP, 52% of the Russian federal budget and over 70% of total Russian exports. So yes, oil prices plummeting that much will cripple them, and it did. Same thing happened to Venezuela. You mean that the Ukrainian population meddled? Because it was the Ukrainian population that rose up against Viktor Yanukovych's government after he went back on a deal with the EU in order to secure closer ties with Russia (taking a fat amount of money from Russia in the process). Ukraine has a right to decide its own future, no? "Seriously what the **** would the US or even the English government had done if the Russians started interfering heavily in Canadian, Mexican, Scottish politics. " Wow, you must be joking? Have you been asleep for the past 2 years?
Webbo Posted 12 April 2018 Posted 12 April 2018 13 minutes ago, m4DD0gg said: The fact that their economy has been virtually destroyed by the west because Russia and many many more countries want a fairer 'global' currency. The Ukraine.........well that is down right text book. They meddled and meddled and meddled in something that was not theirs to meddle in and got burnt big time. If they had not meddled in the first place then i suspect that the follow on events of crimea, mh17 etc would not have happened. Seriously what the **** would the US or even the English government had done if the Russians started interfering heavily in Canadian, Mexican, Scottish politics. Cuba is a classic example. The fact that Russia is run by thieving gangsters, Putin being the prime example, is the main reason why their economy is crap.
m4DD0gg Posted 12 April 2018 Posted 12 April 2018 6 minutes ago, Beechey said: Jesus Christ. The Russian economy tanked primarily because the price of oil tanked from >$100 per barrel to $30 per barrel. In 2012 the oil and gas industries accounted for 16% of GDP, 52% of the Russian federal budget and over 70% of total Russian exports. So yes, oil prices plummeting that much will cripple them, and it did. Same thing happened to Venezuela. You mean that the Ukrainian population meddled? Because it was the Ukrainian population that rose up against Viktor Yanukovych's government after he went back on a deal with the EU in order to secure closer ties with Russia (taking a fat amount of money from Russia in the process). Ukraine has a right to decide its own future, no? "Seriously what the **** would the US or even the English government had done if the Russians started interfering heavily in Canadian, Mexican, Scottish politics. " Wow, you must be joking? Have you been asleep for the past 2 years? I mean the West and by that i mean the US that meddled in the Ukraine. There is clear evidence of that and they got caught out. Yes ofc Russia are ****ing with us and by no means are the innocent in any of this but my point stands that any country that even dares go against the petro dollar is screwed and there is **** all evidence of the spy poisoning other than the UK and nato countries saying it happend and it was russia so therefore it has to be true.
Strokes Posted 12 April 2018 Posted 12 April 2018 https://news.sky.com/story/chemical-watchdog-confirms-novichok-poisoned-sergei-skripal-11327382 OPCW backs Britain. I have to say I’m quite relieved.
Wymsey Posted 12 April 2018 Posted 12 April 2018 18 minutes ago, Strokes said: OPCW backs Britain. I have to say I’m quite relieved. But Russia will probably come back saying Britain put them under pressure to 'make up' the report for their own political benefit etc.. Starting to dislike them even more than Trump USA tbh.
Buce Posted 12 April 2018 Posted 12 April 2018 14 minutes ago, Strokes said: https://news.sky.com/story/chemical-watchdog-confirms-novichok-poisoned-sergei-skripal-11327382 OPCW backs Britain. I have to say I’m quite relieved. I'm still not wholly convinced it was the Russian state because there still remains the possibility that it fell into other hands after the break up of the Soviet Union. The whole 'motivation' thing doesn't really make sense either - they had him in prison for years. And it all seems a bit clumsy too.
Strokes Posted 12 April 2018 Posted 12 April 2018 2 minutes ago, Buce said: I'm still not wholly convinced it was the Russian state because there still remains the possibility that it fell into other hands after the break up of the Soviet Union. The whole 'motivation' thing doesn't really make sense either - they had him in prison for years. And it all seems a bit clumsy too. Yeah I don’t know much about it and I would always be cautious but them saying it’s of high purity surely rules out it being made in the Soviet days as it doesn’t keep very long does it?
Buce Posted 12 April 2018 Posted 12 April 2018 Just now, Strokes said: Yeah I don’t know much about it and I would always be cautious but them saying it’s of high purity surely rules out it being made in the Soviet days as it doesn’t keep very long does it? 1 I have no idea, mate. Where did you read that?
Ashley Posted 12 April 2018 Posted 12 April 2018 2 hours ago, m4DD0gg said: Exactly do you not see that?! There is this constant and i mean constant barrage of crap thrown toward russia. There is way more a foot here than meets the eye which i suspect is related to the mess that is the petro dollar. Any country that wants away from that is ****ed over. Next you will be telling me Syria is about freedom of people and not the Gas line that the west want to run straight through that country. The man has a point oh and not to mention it's only one of the banks in the world the rothchilds etc don't own.
Strokes Posted 12 April 2018 Posted 12 April 2018 Just now, Buce said: I have no idea, mate. Where did you read that? I think I may of heard them talking about it on the radio but I’ll see if I can find out anything.
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