The People's Hero Posted 12 January 2019 Share Posted 12 January 2019 1 hour ago, Foxxed said: Spurs premote their youth players to the first team rather than loan them out. It's working well for them. Good point. I remember Kane and Alli didn’t go out on loan at all... although our Kane probably wasn’t the real Kane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxxed Posted 12 January 2019 Share Posted 12 January 2019 1 minute ago, The People's Hero said: Good point. I remember Kane and Alli didn’t go out on loan at all... although our Kane probably wasn’t the real Kane. Recent graduates of the academy I mean. Some Spurs fan came on the forum and told us just that. None of their recent academy players who now play in the first team went out on loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The People's Hero Posted 12 January 2019 Share Posted 12 January 2019 1 minute ago, Foxxed said: Recent graduates of the academy I mean. Some Spurs fan came on the forum and told us just that. None of their recent academy players who now play in the first team went out on loan. Fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxxed Posted 12 January 2019 Share Posted 12 January 2019 On 11/01/2019 at 17:48, Foxy-Lady said: Good points FIF, and well balanced views as always! One of the things that I have repeatedly heard and that has always concerned me about Academies is that fact that parents with children in the Academy system are always reluctant to criticise as it may affect their childs progress and prospects.....and the views of parents whose children are later released are immediately discredited as being "bitter and twisted". So, in essence, the system is immune to any kind of criticism or objective observation on the basis that anyone who raises any points of concern is immediately under threat or discredited. Perfect scenario for those in charge really... No surprise really that people are reluctant to voice an opinion or try and voice factual observations......unless of course they have no vested interest other than subjectively passing on information which I try to do. With regards Begalehole, he rarely produces anything other than defenders through his system as he is reliant on strength and physicality as opposed to technical coaching ability (high % of our U23 goals come from CBs scoring from set-piece play). The more technical players who do make it through our system would probably have made it through any Academy system irrespective of Beaglehole as they are naturally gifted from a very early age and its just a case of nurturing their ability (ie Barnes, Ndukwu) OR, more recently, have been very professionally scouted and recruited from other lower league Academies (ie Shade, Thomas, Wright) Im not sure I would be giving Beaglehole any credit for the development of Barnes and Ndukwu and it was interesting to note that Chilwell cited the U16s coaches as the biggest influence on his Academy development at LCFC in a recent press article. Deduce from that what you will...?!? The younger coaches will make a bigger impact than Beaglehole for sure but I find it difficult to give Beaglehole no credit for Barnes, Hamza and Chilwell and all the blame for producing few attacking players. I'm not saying he's perfect but I find it to difficult to assume he's stifling the academy when it's done something I cannot remember it ever doing before: producing three premier league players. His u23s seems much stronger defensively, although that could be because the coaches below him are better at producing defensive players. Although we didn't develop him, it will be interesting to see how Shade develops in his team. He didn't shine last match but I thought he looked tidy the match before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxy-Lady Posted 13 January 2019 Share Posted 13 January 2019 On 12/01/2019 at 04:20, Dan LCFC said: Might be putting two and two together and getting five here, but wasn't Idiakez really highly thought of at the club, and surely given the timeframe the likes of Barnes, Choudhury and Chilwell would've all played under him, right? You are absolutely spot-on sir....and add Knight, Ndukwu, Johnson, Dewsbury Hall, Eppiah and Pascanu to that list also! I wonder who they would consider to be the best coaches and biggest influences? Is it just a coincidence that the current 'golden' crop benefitted from the technical coaching ability of Idiakez as it will be interesting to see what follows from hereon now he is no longer at LCFC... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxestalkisfullofidiots Posted 13 January 2019 Share Posted 13 January 2019 On 12/01/2019 at 13:40, The People's Hero said: Good point. I remember Kane and Alli didn’t go out on loan at all... although our Kane probably wasn’t the real Kane. Ali never come through the spurs academy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominicmsb Posted 13 January 2019 Share Posted 13 January 2019 On 12/01/2019 at 13:40, The People's Hero said: Good point. I remember Kane and Alli didn’t go out on loan at all... although our Kane probably wasn’t the real Kane. I remember watching him at Watford and he was playing left wing.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 13 January 2019 Share Posted 13 January 2019 35 minutes ago, foxestalkisfullofidiots said: Ali never come through the spurs academy. And Kane went on loan 3 times, one of them was to us. He's had a howler there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The People's Hero Posted 13 January 2019 Share Posted 13 January 2019 Point I was making was that regardless of where Alli or Kane were schooled, loans undeniably benefitted them, as did soon after getting real first team chances in the xi. We’ve done that with Chilwell and hopefully will with Barnes. More of our U23s need to go out though on loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 14 January 2019 Share Posted 14 January 2019 11 hours ago, Foxy-Lady said: You are absolutely spot-on sir....and add Knight, Ndukwu, Johnson, Dewsbury Hall, Eppiah and Pascanu to that list also! I wonder who they would consider to be the best coaches and biggest influences? Is it just a coincidence that the current 'golden' crop benefitted from the technical coaching ability of Idiakez as it will be interesting to see what follows from hereon now he is no longer at LCFC... To be balanced I'm sure he had a lot of other players whose parents complained about him when their sons didn't make the grade too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieG Posted 14 January 2019 Author Share Posted 14 January 2019 Commentator James Fielden and former Leicester City defender Sean St Ledger will be on LCFC TV duty for the Development Squad's visit to Swansea City on Monday. - Leicester City's Development Squad take on Swansea City on Monday (7pm GMT kick-off) - The Foxes are second in Premier League 2 Division 1 - Supporters can watch the action for free on Facebook, Twitter and LCFC.com The Foxes, who are currently second in Premier League 2 Division 1, tackle the Swans at the Welsh club's Landore training ground on Monday night (7pm GMT kick-off). Following last week's 1-0 success over Everton at Holmes Park, City are now just one point behind the Toffees, who lifted the Division 1 crown in 2017. Supporters can watch the match in full for free on the Club's social media channels while it will also be available, as usual, on LCFC.com By registering to LCFC.com for free, supporters will receive exclusive on-demand video content while also being able to buy tickets and official merchandise - all in one place. Make sure you can follow the action from all five games by clicking HERE to register on LCFC.com. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieG Posted 14 January 2019 Author Share Posted 14 January 2019 Exeter City face into a crucial game in this season’s Under-23 Premier League Cup on Wednesday evening as they take on Leicester City. The Grecians, who qualified for the knockout stages of this competition last season, are currently third in group D, two points off second-placed Leicester City. City were unfortunate to lose their first match of the competition away at Nottingham Forest but travel the Midlands with renewed hope of qualifying from the four-team group having picked up a hard-fought point at home to Norwich City thanks to Ben Seymour’s goal. However, Leicester are their closest rivals for one of those two qualifying spots and City could overtake them in the table if they can record a victory at Holmes Park on Wednesday evening (7pm kick-off). The Grecians then face group leaders Nottingham Forest at home on Monday, January 21. Kick-off at St James Park for that match is at 7pm and tickets can be purchased online here. Prices are as follows: Adults: £5 Seniors: £4 Under-18s: £2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozartfox Posted 14 January 2019 Share Posted 14 January 2019 15 hours ago, The People's Hero said: Point I was making was that regardless of where Alli or Kane were schooled, loans undeniably benefitted them, as did soon after getting real first team chances in the xi. We’ve done that with Chilwell and hopefully will with Barnes. More of our U23s need to go out though on loan. Yep agree - more loans to our SPL feeder Club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxy-Lady Posted 14 January 2019 Share Posted 14 January 2019 11 hours ago, FIF said: To be balanced I'm sure he had a lot of other players whose parents complained about him when their sons didn't make the grade too. You make a very fair point sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Foxxed Posted 14 January 2019 Share Posted 14 January 2019 9 minutes ago, davieG said: Isn't that the same trialist as before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieG Posted 14 January 2019 Author Share Posted 14 January 2019 1 minute ago, Foxxed said: Isn't that the same trialist as before? Looks like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Spicer Posted 14 January 2019 Share Posted 14 January 2019 Swansea have a few first team fringe players playing tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCFC1996 Posted 14 January 2019 Share Posted 14 January 2019 Good test for someone like Ughelumba, looked very promising lately but is now going up against someone who has Champions League and international experience in Narsingh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCFC1996 Posted 14 January 2019 Share Posted 14 January 2019 Knight needs to get first team football on loan somewhere, this looks too easy for him at times 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spicer Posted 14 January 2019 Share Posted 14 January 2019 2-0 Muskwe 45 (pen) won by Reghba Reghba 45+1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCFC1996 Posted 14 January 2019 Share Posted 14 January 2019 (edited) 2 goals in 2 minutes, Muskwe penalty and then Reghba with some brilliant work and a good finish #BeagleholeIN Edited 14 January 2019 by LCFC1996 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxxed Posted 14 January 2019 Share Posted 14 January 2019 (edited) Winning 2 0 at the break. Thought Reghba did really well even before winning the penality and intercepting the poor defensive pass to get the second. Give him a contract. Muskwe, aside from this penalty, seemed quiet although fairly recently back from injury. All round good game. I'm really enjoying the u23s. Knight and Umgelumba look the best of the bunch but they all look decent tbf. Edited 14 January 2019 by Foxxed 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rachhere Posted 14 January 2019 Share Posted 14 January 2019 Just now, Spicer said: 2-0 Muskwe 45 (pen) won by Reghba Reghba 45+1 Can't complain about that really from Reghba. A lot more visible this week now he's settled in a bit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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