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Second referendum/who you'd vote for in general elections.   

66 members have voted

  1. 1. Do you support having a second referendum?

    • Yes
      32
    • No
      34
  2. 2. If an election were to happen right now, who would you vote for?

    • Labour
      29
    • The conservatives
      17
    • Liberal democrats
      8
    • Ukip
      3
    • Someone else
      9
  3. 3. If a second referendum were to happen, what would you choose?

    • Remain
      43
    • Leave
      23


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Posted

I voted: "No" to a second referendum, "Labour" & "Remain".

 

In reality, if there were to be another referendum (still unlikely, I think), I'm pretty sure that it wouldn't be another "Leave/Remain" vote. 

It would surely be "Yes/No" to the terms of the final deal negotiated by October.....and it's still unclear what the alternative would be if we rejected the terms negotiated:

- Stay in the EU (if allowed)?

- Send the govt back to renegotiate the terms?

- Leave the EU with No Deal?

 

Holding another referendum - particularly on Leave/Remain terms and particularly before a final deal was negotiated - could cause massive social unrest, probably including violence and even greater cynicism about democracy.

 

There's no way that a referendum could be organised and held before October, anyway. Even if parliament supported such a referendum (unlikely), the campaign couldn't happen before September or the vote before October.

 

If the govt collapses now, we'd surely be looking at another election, not a referendum (not until at least October, anyway, if ever).

Would be interesting then to see what happened with both main parties - massive divisions in both.

But is some unholy alliance of Tory Brexiteer MPs and Labour going to pass a no-confidence vote to bring down the govt before there's a final deal on the table? Unlikely.

 

Possible scenario: Brexiteer attempt to bring down May fails, possibly through the votes of pro-Remain Labour moderates (Corbyn might support a no-confidence vote). The EU would probably have demanded major changes to May's proposals anyway, but will be even more likely to do so now that Davis & co have started a full-scale civil war in the Tory party. So, come October, May comes back with either no deal or a very diluted Soft Brexit deal, her govt is brought down and we're into a November election?

Posted
1 hour ago, Innovindil said:

But why? 

 

It's fairly common knowledge that FT is majority remain/Labour voters. :huh:

 

It might (or might not) have that slant at the moment.

 

That certainly hasn't always been the case. I can remember polls where Leave and Tories came out on top.

Posted
10 hours ago, Alf Bentley said:

So, come October, May comes back with either no deal or a very diluted Soft Brexit deal, her govt is brought down and we're into a November election?

Time for Rees-Mogg to stand up and get a landslide victory

Posted

Why are we trying to do a deal with the rest of europe. If they want us to carry on buying their bmw's, mercs, cookoo clocks and paella they should be wanting to do a deal with us.

Posted
13 hours ago, Innovindil said:

But why? 

 

It's fairly common knowledge that FT is majority remain/Labour voters. :huh:

There are only two people on here that aren't Moosebreath, so it depends on his mood this month.

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Posted
44 minutes ago, yorkie1999 said:

If they want us to carry on buying their bmw's, mercs, cookoo clocks and paella they should be wanting to do a deal with us.

They did, it's the EU; which we're trying to leave. 

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Posted

No to a revote - it would just be wrong democratically - but I would vote remain.

 

Is there any party worth voting for?

 

Needs a new party but anyone other than LibDems would be foolish.

 

Would be nice if politicians sorted out politics and removed the lies, installed debate and worked together for a better society.

Posted

This is like a Fan's Consultative Committee poll.

Posted

1. No. We had a choice, we made it. Now to make it work. 

2. I don't vote as they are all as bad as each other (did chose Tory though, since there wasnt an option to not vote, and i think they are the best of a bad bunch.) 

3. Leave

 

 

 

Guest MattP
Posted

Quite astonishing 50% want a second ref, 68% would vote remain yet the Lib Dems are stuck on 9%.

Posted
1 hour ago, MattP said:

Quite astonishing 50% want a second ref, 68% would vote remain yet the Lib Dems are stuck on 9%.

I want a second referendum so we can shithouse a win again, it would be hilarious.

Guest MattP
Posted
28 minutes ago, Strokes said:

I want a second referendum so we can shithouse a win again, it would be hilarious.

It would be interesting to see why side Corbyn and May would campaign on lol

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