Guest Posted 22 August 2018 Posted 22 August 2018 Can someone explain to me why certain footballers - like Henry - are discussed relative to top managerial posts, even though they have no management experience whatsoever? He was mentioned in relation to Puel's post - by the media - and Arsenal's and now he is the top candidate for the Bordeaux job. He's even listed above Laurent Blanc and others like Remi Garde. He may turn out to be a good manager but he needs to learn the trade and get real head coach experience. Any team that chooses him over Laurent Blanc deserves relegation.
Nick Posted 22 August 2018 Posted 22 August 2018 2 minutes ago, FIF said: Can someone explain to me why certain footballers - like Henry - are discussed relative to top managerial posts, even though they have no management experience whatsoever? He was mentioned in relation to Puel's post - by the media - and Arsenal's and now he is the top candidate for the Bordeaux job. He's even listed above Laurent Blanc and others like Remi Garde. He may turn out to be a good manager but he needs to learn the trade and get real head coach experience. Any team that chooses him over Laurent Blanc deserves relegation. Worked with the Belgian side at the World Cup very highly respected tactically and as a man manager. Agree though he perhaps should cut his teeth so to speak but I wouldn’t be surprised to hear he goes to a big club and does well a la Zidane.
The Horse's Mouth Posted 22 August 2018 Posted 22 August 2018 Henry is one of the biggest names in football, of course he's going to be linked with them. I doubt these calibre of clubs are seriously considering him as he's quite the gamble atm
Guest Posted 22 August 2018 Posted 22 August 2018 2 minutes ago, Swan Lesta said: Worked with the Belgian side at the World Cup very highly respected tactically and as a man manager. Agree though he perhaps should cut his teeth so to speak but I wouldn’t be surprised to hear he goes to a big club and does well a la Zidane. Working for a month with the most skillful players on the planet is not related to managing a team in a top league. Zidane had worked with his "big club" since retiring and was groomed for the role, and took over a team that he really couldn't fail with didn't he? I'm not saying he didn't do well be again nothing like the Henry situation. 1 minute ago, The Horse's Mouth said: Henry is one of the biggest names in football, of course he's going to be linked with them. I doubt these calibre of clubs are seriously considering him as he's quite the gamble atm I can assure you that bordeaux are seriously considering him. (ITK).
Nick Posted 22 August 2018 Posted 22 August 2018 Just now, FIF said: Working for a month with the most skillful players on the planet is not related to managing a team in a top league. Zidane had worked with his "big club" since retiring and was groomed for the role, and took over a team that he really couldn't fail with didn't he? I'm not saying he didn't do well be again nothing like the Henry situation. I can assure you that bordeaux are seriously considering him. (ITK). Listen here FIF, you asked if anybody could explain something so I did. I don’t want to enter into an ongoing discourse about it! The English Belgian assistant (can’t remeber his name) said he thought that Arsenal had genuinely missed a trick by not appointing him. I’d genuinely swap him for Puel in a heartbeat and I’m not trolling.
The Horse's Mouth Posted 22 August 2018 Posted 22 August 2018 11 minutes ago, FIF said: Working for a month with the most skillful players on the planet is not related to managing a team in a top league. Zidane had worked with his "big club" since retiring and was groomed for the role, and took over a team that he really couldn't fail with didn't he? I'm not saying he didn't do well be again nothing like the Henry situation. I can assure you that bordeaux are seriously considering him. (ITK). Also you've got to factor in brand awareness these days as well, having a manager like Thierry Henry is certainly going to generate more publicity to your club. Especially at a club like Bordeaux, who aren't the most wealthy
Guest Posted 22 August 2018 Posted 22 August 2018 20 minutes ago, Swan Lesta said: Listen here FIF, you asked if anybody could explain something so I did. I don’t want to enter into an ongoing discourse about it! The English Belgian assistant (can’t remeber his name) said he thought that Arsenal had genuinely missed a trick by not appointing him. I’d genuinely swap him for Puel in a heartbeat and I’m not trolling. Not sure how serious you are. An ex-player with no experience and not even properly studied his coaching badges in at a top 8 prem club. You must be madder than col and the mad hatter put together. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3503358/Thierry-Henry-fast-track-coaching-licence-sparks-probe-call-biased-complaint.html And Laurent Blanc is available. 14 minutes ago, The Horse's Mouth said: Also you've got to factor in brand awareness these days as well, having a manager like Thierry Henry is certainly going to generate more publicity to your club. Especially at a club like Bordeaux, who aren't the most wealthy Not quite sure how people taking a bit more notice of bordeaux will help them if they slide into Ligue 2 because they have a manager who has no experience of coaching/managing. Many ex-players have gone into management and made a complete balls up of it - many more than ever had success.
Nick Posted 22 August 2018 Posted 22 August 2018 12 minutes ago, Steven said: I would swap Puel for Laurent Blanc. I’d swap Puel for @Col city fan
Brainy Posted 22 August 2018 Posted 22 August 2018 What has Hamza Choudhury done for you to create a fan club?
Leicesterpool Posted 22 August 2018 Posted 22 August 2018 12 hours ago, Steven said: I would swap Puel for Laurent Blanc. I actually can see that happening to be honest. Think he's overdue a job in England.
Koke Posted 23 August 2018 Posted 23 August 2018 Modern footnall management is a bit weird. Zidane has won 3 CLs in a row but not everybody rates him that highly. He wouldn't even make top 5 world best current managers in most people's eyes.
Guest Posted 24 August 2018 Posted 24 August 2018 On 22/08/2018 at 11:01, The Horse's Mouth said: Henry is one of the biggest names in football, of course he's going to be linked with them. I doubt these calibre of clubs are seriously considering him as he's quite the gamble atm I guess you've now seen that Sky sports are reporting he's been offered the job. I've been told that Henry wants guarantees about lots of transfer money to be made available. Considering this Bordeaux have also spoken to another ex Arsenal player (without coaching experience). To be clearer, it's the future American owners that he wants guarantees from and the ex-arsenal player is Gilles Grimaldi.
The Horse's Mouth Posted 24 August 2018 Posted 24 August 2018 1 hour ago, FIF said: I guess you've now seen that Sky sports are reporting he's been offered the job. I've been told that Henry wants guarantees about lots of transfer money to be made available. Considering this Bordeaux have also spoken to another ex Arsenal player (without coaching experience). To be clearer, it's the future American owners that he wants guarantees from and the ex-arsenal player is Gilles Grimaldi. I was talking more of the likes of Villa really that could attract top calibre managers, Bordeaux have a cloud over them atm and haven't been a top team for nearly a decade, finances arent exactly lucrative. Why not roll the dice?
Leicesterpool Posted 24 August 2018 Posted 24 August 2018 On 23/08/2018 at 07:07, Koke said: Modern footnall management is a bit weird. Zidane has won 3 CLs in a row but not everybody rates him that highly. He wouldn't even make top 5 world best current managers in most people's eyes. Zidane though has been in charge of biggest club in the world with full of squad of world class players. Is Zidane capable of winning the champions league with two different clubs... we'll shall see in years to come.
Guest Posted 28 August 2018 Posted 28 August 2018 Henry turns down Bordeaux. Obviously not willing to work on a team and wants one that has all the star players in place.
ScouseFox Posted 28 August 2018 Posted 28 August 2018 33 minutes ago, FIF said: Henry turns down Bordeaux. Obviously not willing to work on a team and wants one that has all the star players in place. so you started a thread to cry about him possibly getting the job and now you’re replying to yourself crying about the fact he hasn’t got the job? just wondering what outcome would’ve lead to a post that didn’t make me want to injure myself?
Guest Posted 29 August 2018 Posted 29 August 2018 16 hours ago, ScouseFox said: so you started a thread to cry about him possibly getting the job and now you’re replying to yourself crying about the fact he hasn’t got the job? just wondering what outcome would’ve lead to a post that didn’t make me want to injure myself? Back on ignore. You must be the most pointless poster on FT. I've never read a post by you that's worthwhile.
Guest Posted 7 November 2018 Posted 7 November 2018 On 22/08/2018 at 10:55, FIF said: Can someone explain to me why certain footballers - like Henry - are discussed relative to top managerial posts, even though they have no management experience whatsoever? He was mentioned in relation to Puel's post - by the media - and Arsenal's and now he is the top candidate for the Bordeaux job. He's even listed above Laurent Blanc and others like Remi Garde. He may turn out to be a good manager but he needs to learn the trade and get real head coach experience. Any team that chooses him over Laurent Blanc deserves relegation. Henry proving his worth as a manager. Did his team just lose by 4 to a team that we put 6 past in the same competition?
Footballwipe Posted 7 November 2018 Posted 7 November 2018 Just now, FIF said: Henry proving his worth as a manager. Did his team just lose by 4 to a team that we put 6 past in the same competition? No he didn't, because we only put five past Brugge over the two games...
The Horse's Mouth Posted 7 November 2018 Posted 7 November 2018 Why you just looking at Henry and not the other big names who have received this year? Looks a bit racial to me this obsession
AKCJ Posted 7 November 2018 Posted 7 November 2018 24 minutes ago, FIF said: Henry proving his worth as a manager. Did his team just lose by 4 to a team that we put 6 past in the same competition? Pick from the managerial 'gets sacked wherever they go' merry-go-round or try out a young manager looking to cut his teeth with a serious amount of experience in the game. I applaud Monaco for taking a risk. Just wish more English clubs did it (look at Derby for example).
Guest Posted 7 November 2018 Posted 7 November 2018 3 hours ago, The Horse's Mouth said: Why you just looking at Henry and not the other big names who have received this year? Looks a bit racial to me this obsession I presume that's a joke - albeit a poor one - seeing as I have criticised other celebrity managers whatever their colour. If not have a word with yourself. 3 hours ago, AKCJ said: Pick from the managerial 'gets sacked wherever they go' merry-go-round or try out a young manager looking to cut his teeth with a serious amount of experience in the game. I applaud Monaco for taking a risk. Just wish more English clubs did it (look at Derby for example). I don't have a problem with young managers cutting their teeth, in fact I'm all for it. I just think these celebrity managers should do their coaching badges and then get some experience at lower level clubs. There are plenty of young managers with lower level experience who merit the chance of getting higher level jobs but don't get it because they don't have the name. And the more often a young first timer fails the more likely it is that the old tried and tested rubbish will be given the jobs the next time around. Teams get into the top divisions by working up through the lower divisions and proving their worth. It should be the same for managers.
MC Prussian Posted 9 November 2018 Posted 9 November 2018 Should never been offered the job this early - no coaching pedigree with a first team on a league level before that. Henrik Larsson springs to mind. They wanted a big name, somebody they can use for marketing purposes. Bound to be a flop. https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/46142786
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