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Ryder Cup 2018.

By Bert, in General Football and Sport

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KingsX

KingsX

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21 hours ago, Izzy Muzzett said:

Woods looks like he can’t wait to get home to me.

He does look like he needs someone to come home to.

KingsX

KingsX

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As supporters of the European side, would you guys rather have the comfort of a blue-tinged victory parade, or real RC drama and minute-by-minute swings in momentum?

Jimothy

Jimothy

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11 minutes ago, buzzy said:

mcllory what a complete knob always goes for power not placement usa to win europe looked liked they

 have bottled it

Oleson and Stenson are in very strong positions, Garcia and Molinarri are in almost as good positions. That wins us the cup, without the need to win another match. We lost one point, stop being so downbeat lol

ScouseFox

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15 minutes ago, buzzy said:

mcllory what a complete knob always goes for power not placement usa to win europe looked liked they

 have bottled it

how many times have we already lost this weekend man, absolutely nuts that we are obviously going to win 

Izzy

Izzy

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27 minutes ago, KingsX said:

As supporters of the European side, would you guys rather have the comfort of a blue-tinged victory parade, or real RC drama and minute-by-minute swings in momentum?

I’d much rather we romped away with it easily.

 

These close matches, drama and swings are no good for my aging heart :sweating:

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Izzy

Izzy

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That’s outstanding from Olesen. I think that means every European player has now contributed at least a point this RC?

 

Edit. That’s bollux. Don’t think Rahm has scored a point yet. I dunno, my heads Fvckin scrambled atm :o

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Izzy

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3 minutes ago, The Year Of The Fox said:

He’s about to

Delighted for him. Heart of a Lion

Jimothy

Jimothy

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Just now, Izzy Muzzett said:

For the first time today, I think we’re gonna do it.

Always thought we would. At worst I thought we'd lose the day 7-5

KingsX

KingsX

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Congratulations to Europe.  Walking it home.  No great surprise is it?

 

Why the U.S. fails miserably every time it comes to Europe

 

1. For whatever reason, this event makes Tiger Woods mortal.

 

In addition, it generally makes his partners look tentative. Why can't someone figure this out? Is it because his dad, Earl, never emphasized team golf when he was raising a prodigy to dominate? Is it because American golfers of every generation are too scared to be themselves around the game's biggest Alpha Wolf?

 

Don't tell me it's just a run of bad luck, or just the way the ball bounces sometimes in match play. This event is Tiger's kryptonite. The only thing that changes is the venue. It was this way at the beginning of his career, at the height of his career and now in the twilight of his career. The United States has spent a long, long, long time trying to figure out the right partner for Tiger, but at some point, you have to step back and look at the big picture. It has gone poorly with friends, foes, steady stars and journeymen. It has gone poorly with long hitters, consistent fairway-finders, excellent putters, the old and the young. Sometimes it's on them, other times it's been on him. Usually, it's a mixture of both.

 

Woods has now lost seven consecutive team matches in the Ryder Cup, bringing his career record in the event to 9-17-1 with a partner. He has been such an important figure in the growth of golf in America that we can't resist making excuses for him. (It just wasn't his day! Or ... decade!) But be honest about it: It makes no sense that the Michael Jordan of American golf can't seem to find his Scottie Pippen, or even a Steve Kerr or John Paxson to pick him up in important moments.

 

But that's where we are. It seems too late to change now. Woods once said no one remembered what Jack Nicklaus' Ryder Cup record was, and he's right. But it will be a footnote in his legacy, and that's a bummer.

 

2. Americans on the PGA Tour play too much bomb-and-gouge golf, and when you take that away from them, they struggle to collectively adjust.

 

I know what you're thinking: Wait, don't most of the guys on the European team play bomb-and-gouge, too? Some of them do (such as Rory McIlroy and Jon Rahm), but none of their best Ryder Cup players are cut from that cloth.

 

Look at Tommy Fleetwood and Francesco Molinari, who are 4-0 this week and have absolutely tormented the Americans with precision ball-striking. Look at Sergio Garcia, Ian Poulter and Henrik Stenson. None of them had a good PGA Tour season, but put them on a course on which accuracy is more important than length, and suddenly they look like the best versions of their youth.

 

Sometimes you have to remember that the PGA Tour, where almost every young American golfer comes of age, is in the entertainment business. The Tour has decided (perhaps justifiably) that fans want to see golfers smash the ball long and far off the tee and not be severely penalized for it when it goes astray. This is what the players like, as well, because they want to make birdies, not pars. But this week is a welcome reminder that the way modern courses ought to combat outrageous distance gains isn't by making courses longer, it's by pinching the fairways, having strategic water hazards and growing the rough out until it's so thick you cannot hit the green if you miss the fairway.

 

The PGA Tour, without apology, coddles its players. It's not like other sports. They are the product, not the labor. If players don't like a course setup, they're going to complain about it until it gets changed. If it doesn't, they'll skip that event.

 

This plays right into Europe's hands every four years when the Ryder Cup comes here. That's a lifetime in professional golf. There is no incentive for Americans to change. Their team qualifies for the Ryder Cup by playing (mostly) American courses, and American courses reward the kind of golf that doesn't play well in Europe.

 

There will always be exceptions (Justin Thomas and Jordan Spieth are so talented, they can adjust), but that's not enough. The way Americans play their way onto the team plays right into Europe's hands. There will always be horses for courses in golf. Maybe the PGA of America ought to have six captain picks for every Ryder Cup the U.S. plays in Europe and declare a year ahead of time the captain has full discretion to pick players down in the rankings who play European-style golf.

 

3. Americans get too hung up on needing a specific partner, or a specific ball, to feel comfortable.

 

4. American golf can't shake this idea that everyone on the team needs to play before Sunday.

 

the complete piece http://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/24835492/2018-ryder-cup-united-states-making-mess-another-ryder-cup-europe-here-all-reasons-why

 

Izzy

Izzy

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8 minutes ago, HowardsBulletHeader said:

Who's going to seal it? Garcia? Molinari? Maybe even Stenson stuffing Bubba?

I hope it’s Molinari 

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