Amartey

[Corky]

Really poor yesterday. The fact he plays ahead of Soyuncu speaks volumes about this manager.

[UniFox21]

He made the same absolutely dire pass several times yesterday, each time losing possession in a dangerous place, just as against Blackburn. Should be learning from this, not repeating it time and time again. 

 

 

[Fazzer 7]

Please tell me his contract is up this summer

 

[Claridge]

Much rather have Vestagard and he is pony

[Dahnsouff]

5 hours ago, Corky said:

Really poor yesterday. The fact he plays ahead of Soyuncu speaks volumes about this manager.

I hear this a lot but be honest, it is without any basis, and rather because Amartey is rubbish, not because Soyuncu has proven to actually be any better - or am I missing something?

[Buzzell]

He’s crap and has never been good enough for us since he moved here. Absolutely stole a living as a footballer.

[cruzFOX]

Has anyone compiled a highlight reel or should I say a ‘horror’ real of amartey? Enough gaffs to fill 2hrs of non stop comedy action

[Dahnsouff]

2 minutes ago, Buzzell said:

He’s crap and has never been good enough for us since he moved here. Absolutely stole a living as a footballer.

I agree 100%. The fact we have bought four? CBs since he arrived, 1 sold, a new 1 plays, 1 is mysteriously not playing and the other is dog sh*t, says as much about our scouting as it does about Dan unfortunately 

[Buzzell]

9 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

I agree 100%. The fact we have bought four? CBs since he arrived, 1 sold, a new 1 plays, 1 is mysteriously not playing and the other is dog sh*t, says as much about our scouting as it does about Dan unfortunately 

He’s just never fitted in since day one. Not one manager knew where his best position is after being tried in multiple positions. He’s not even a good squad player coming off the bench. In fact we are weakened as a side when he comes on off the bench.

 

People used to big him up on here because he’s a utility player, can play in numerous positions but he’s never been consistently good anywhere on the pitch. He’s crap and a liability.

[Dahnsouff]

1 minute ago, Buzzell said:

He’s just never fitted in since day one. Not one manager knew where his best position is after being tried in multiple positions. He’s not even a good squad player coming off the bench. In fact we are weakened as a side when he comes on off the bench.

 

People used to big him up on here because he’s a utility player, can play in numerous positions but he’s never been consistently good anywhere on the pitch. He’s crap and a liability.

He does not have the composure or attention to be a CB, so it’s not that.

My point was more that we have failed to replacing despite trying (excluding Fofana) and that irks too, and that’s why he starts so much. Which is rubbish.

[Guest Col city fan]

There are people on here who have made it clear they’d be happy if we extended Amartey’s contract. They’ve not thought it through though, as usual.

Amartey is never a player who should feature as much as he has done in the first team of a Premier League club.

I agree with the poster above who says that’s more to do with our recruitment as much as anything else. We HAVE brought in new CB’s but so far they look little or no better than Big Dan.

I actually WOULD renew his contract if two things happen. Firstly, if we get relegated and secondly if we replace the manager.

Amartey isn’t geared up for Rodgers ball. I believe it’s too much for him, expecting him to bring the ball out from the back and to play a high line.

My belief is that Amartey would look fine under a Dyche type manager. Someone who gets the defensive side of the game sorted and where the expectation of defenders is just to defend. Amartey would look ok then. He’s an athlete more than a footballer imo. Get him doing the basics right and he’d be much better off.

BUT in the championship. He’s just not of sufficient standard to play consistently in the Premiership.

Rodgers just doesn’t seem to know how to set a team up to get the best out of what he’s got. Other managers do. Wasn’t it Brian Clough who claimed that ‘football is a simple game’ and that you play with what you’ve got? Ie you play to the best strengths of the players at your disposal?

Ive grown to detest Rodgers. He seems so arrogant or just fookin stupid that he can’t work out how to best play his players. I think he’s let lads like Big Dan down personally. 
There’s always more to it than such and such is a ‘shit player’. It’ll be about confidence, ability, tactical set ups and this all affects form. Rodgers is pretty much doing everything wrongly at present.

[funkyrobot]

2 hours ago, Dahnsouff said:

I hear this a lot but be honest, it is without any basis, and rather because Amartey is rubbish, not because Soyuncu has proven to actually be any better - or am I missing something?

Soyuncu is clearly a better footballer than Amartey. Don’t fall for the Rodgers propaganda. He’s been spouting negativity about Cags and ignoring him for 18 months. Soyuncu’s only fault really was he wasn’t as good as Wes Fofana. He was dropped because we had a world class option available. With Fofana gone, I’ve seen very little evidence to suggest that Amartey or even Faes are better than Soyuncu. 

[Tommy Fresh]

2 hours ago, Col city fan said:

There are people on here who have made it clear they’d be happy if we extended Amartey’s contract. They’ve not thought it through though, as usual.

Amartey is never a player who should feature as much as he has done in the first team of a Premier League club.

I agree with the poster above who says that’s more to do with our recruitment as much as anything else. We HAVE brought in new CB’s but so far they look little or no better than Big Dan.

I actually WOULD renew his contract if two things happen. Firstly, if we get relegated and secondly if we replace the manager.

Amartey isn’t geared up for Rodgers ball. I believe it’s too much for him, expecting him to bring the ball out from the back and to play a high line.

My belief is that Amartey would look fine under a Dyche type manager. Someone who gets the defensive side of the game sorted and where the expectation of defenders is just to defend. Amartey would look ok then. He’s an athlete more than a footballer imo. Get him doing the basics right and he’d be much better off.

BUT in the championship. He’s just not of sufficient standard to play consistently in the Premiership.

Rodgers just doesn’t seem to know how to set a team up to get the best out of what he’s got. Other managers do. Wasn’t it Brian Clough who claimed that ‘football is a simple game’ and that you play with what you’ve got? Ie you play to the best strengths of the players at your disposal?

Ive grown to detest Rodgers. He seems so arrogant or just fookin stupid that he can’t work out how to best play his players. I think he’s let lads like Big Dan down personally. 
There’s always more to it than such and such is a ‘shit player’. It’ll be about confidence, ability, tactical set ups and this all affects form. Rodgers is pretty much doing everything wrongly at present.

No one wants him to play consistently week after week though, as much as you want to believe it.

[Unabomber]

2 minutes ago, Tommy Fresh said:

No one wants him to play consistently week after week though, as much as you want to believe it.

I want to know who the members of the infamous “Amartey cult” are. Honestly never seen anyone big him up beyond what he is. 

[Samilktray]

2 hours ago, Col city fan said:

There are people on here who have made it clear they’d be happy if we extended Amartey’s contract. They’ve not thought it through though, as usual.

Amartey is never a player who should feature as much as he has done in the first team of a Premier League club.

I agree with the poster above who says that’s more to do with our recruitment as much as anything else. We HAVE brought in new CB’s but so far they look little or no better than Big Dan.

I actually WOULD renew his contract if two things happen. Firstly, if we get relegated and secondly if we replace the manager.

Amartey isn’t geared up for Rodgers ball. I believe it’s too much for him, expecting him to bring the ball out from the back and to play a high line.

My belief is that Amartey would look fine under a Dyche type manager. Someone who gets the defensive side of the game sorted and where the expectation of defenders is just to defend. Amartey would look ok then. He’s an athlete more than a footballer imo. Get him doing the basics right and he’d be much better off.

BUT in the championship. He’s just not of sufficient standard to play consistently in the Premiership.

Rodgers just doesn’t seem to know how to set a team up to get the best out of what he’s got. Other managers do. Wasn’t it Brian Clough who claimed that ‘football is a simple game’ and that you play with what you’ve got? Ie you play to the best strengths of the players at your disposal?

Ive grown to detest Rodgers. He seems so arrogant or just fookin stupid that he can’t work out how to best play his players. I think he’s let lads like Big Dan down personally. 
There’s always more to it than such and such is a ‘shit player’. It’ll be about confidence, ability, tactical set ups and this all affects form. Rodgers is pretty much doing everything wrongly at present.

Can’t believe how long this post is considering you’ve not really said anything lmao 

[Tommy Fresh]

1 minute ago, Unabomber said:

I want to know who the members of the infamous “Amartey cult” are. Honestly never seen anyone big him up beyond what he is. 

Not like someone who compared the playing style of Souttar to Baresi after one of his first appearances for us.

[Unabomber]

2 minutes ago, Samilktray said:

Can’t believe how long this post is considering you’ve not really said anything lmao 

I stopped reading after the word “there” was used rather than Unabomber 

[Dahnsouff]

2 minutes ago, funkyrobot said:

Soyuncu is clearly a better footballer than Amartey. Don’t fall for the Rodgers propaganda. He’s been spouting negativity about Cags and ignoring him for 18 months. Soyuncu’s only fault really was he wasn’t as good as Wes Fofana. He was dropped because we had a world class option available. With Fofana gone, I’ve seen very little evidence to suggest that Amartey or even Faes are better than Soyuncu. 

At his best this is beyond debate, at his worst they are vaguely comparable I would suggest, but we want neither at their worst. No idea what happened with Caglar, I doubt it was Rodgers personally, as he was dog muck for Turkey too. Perhaps it was the arrival  of Fofana, the likely arrival of another CB, I really am not sure,  but whatever it was, he became just as crap as Amartey. One major difference was that Soyuncu became justifiably a fan favourite on his arrival, Amartey did not and he was rightly just a squad player.

 

Shocking recruitment at CB, bar Fofana tbh.

[alanf0x]

Big Dan is taking us down. Simple as that really

[Corky]

2 hours ago, Dahnsouff said:

I hear this a lot but be honest, it is without any basis, and rather because Amartey is rubbish, not because Soyuncu has proven to actually be any better - or am I missing something?

Soyuncu is better than Amartey, comfortably. Simeone feels can play for Atletico Madrid but he can't get a game here? Crap.

[Dahnsouff]

Just now, Corky said:

Soyuncu is better than Amartey, comfortably. Simeone feels can play for Atletico Madrid but he can't get a game here? Crap.

That’s not a fact, that’s an opinion - there is no guarantee Caglar plays, and he does not get a game here as he is now crap

[funkyrobot]

1 minute ago, Dahnsouff said:

At his best this is beyond debate, at his worst they are vaguely comparable I would suggest, but we want neither at their worst. No idea what happened with Caglar, I doubt it was Rodgers personally, as he was dog muck for Turkey too. Perhaps it was the arrival  of Fofana, the likely arrival of another CB, I really am not sure,  but whatever it was, he became just as crap as Amartey. One major difference was that Soyuncu became justifiably a fan favourite on his arrival, Amartey did not and he was rightly just a squad player.

 

Shocking recruitment at CB, bar Fofana tbh.

I don’t see that Soyuncu has ever been as consistently error prone as Amartey. The difference is, when Cags made an error he was publicly castigated and dropped by Rodgers. Amartey has continued to be selected and has continued to make errors. As has Faes. 

[Unabomber]

3 minutes ago, alanf0x said:

Big Dan is taking us down. Simple as that really

Big Dan out 

[Unabomber]

What the hell did Soyuncu do to Rodgers? Something clearly has gone on 

[Dahnsouff]

Just now, funkyrobot said:

I don’t see that Soyuncu has ever been as consistently error prone as Amartey. The difference is, when Cags made an error he was publicly castigated and dropped by Rodgers. Amartey has continued to be selected and has continued to make errors. As has Faes. 

Cags is rated on his early form, form we no longer see unfortunately. Saying Cags is crap does not mean I am championing Amartey or Faes, I am certainly not.