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1 hour ago, The Bear said:

Chops are the biggest con in meat products. 

 

A tiny little portion of meat surrounded by mostly fat and bone. Which you have to fiddle about with to cut away and end up with tiny morsels to eat. 

 

For the same price or cheaper you can just buy a small 1kg joint of whichever meat you fancy. 

Agreed. Far too much faff for such little reward, and so many better alternatives. 

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Posted
1 hour ago, The Bear said:

Chops are the biggest con in meat products. 

 

A tiny little portion of meat surrounded by mostly fat and bone. Which you have to fiddle about with to cut away and end up with tiny morsels to eat. 

 

For the same price or cheaper you can just buy a small 1kg joint of whichever meat you fancy. 

 

15 minutes ago, FoxesDeb said:

Agreed. Far too much faff for such little reward, and so many better alternatives. 

You guys have never had decent chops then. Get yourself to a proper Indian barbeque and you'll see what the fuss is all about. 

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I was asked a specific question by @Tommy G in the "New Mattress" topic which took an unexpected turn as you'll know if you've looked at it. 

 

Following a few posts about abandoned mattresses etc, in front gardens on council estates and then my response, as follows:

 

"We mock but going into such homes and seeing the existence therein would need a whole new topic to describe the squalor and neglect I have personally experienced and I wasn't even a social worker, just a passing presence in an emergency". Tommy G then legitimately asked what was the worst I'd seen with regard to squalor and neglect?

 

I posted this, which I think needs a wider viewing than a mattress topic just to accentuate that poverty and squalor are not that uncommon and are distressing for all involved:

 

 

Tommy G: Whats the worst you've seen?

 

My reply: A baby born on a filth encrusted sofa that had recently been the birth place of a litter of kittens and was still damp from the animals placenta. The baby had the umbilical cord intact but separated from the mother. Mum was still bleeding onto the sofa, The human placenta had been delivered. Two dogs were sniffing around it.

 

There was no electricity or central heating. The walls in the room were bare plaster that had the old wallpaper scraped off to burn in the fireplace and had subsequently been smeared with animal excrement. Dog and cat food and bodily waste was trodden into the "carpet" and had hardened off so it was more like lino. 

 

It was a while ago now but I seem to remember there were 3 adults and 5-6 kids ranging from toddler to young teen also living in the property as well as a number of "pets" including reptiles in tanks.

 

I recall being told that the adults slept downstairs as the floorboards in the main bedroom had been ripped up for firewood. The same reason that were no doors or architraves.

 

The baby girl was born healthy, a good weight and size and was full term.

 

We took baby and her mother to hospital for the baby's safety and made a safeguarding referral.

 

I have no idea what became of any of them but it was so tragic and overwhelming at the time.

 

A part of the real world that not many of us see or experience first hand.

 

Edited 3 hours ago by Parafox

 

 

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Posted
7 minutes ago, kenny said:

Just spoiled my first ballot.

 

Lib Dems calling a pointless election Vs reform.

 

Nothing worth voting for.

Yet ironically, by not voting you are effectively affecting the result. 

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Posted (edited)
20 hours ago, Parafox said:

I was asked a specific question by @Tommy G in the "New Mattress" topic which took an unexpected turn as you'll know if you've looked at it. 

 

Following a few posts about abandoned mattresses etc, in front gardens on council estates and then my response, as follows:

 

"We mock but going into such homes and seeing the existence therein would need a whole new topic to describe the squalor and neglect I have personally experienced and I wasn't even a social worker, just a passing presence in an emergency". Tommy G then legitimately asked what was the worst I'd seen with regard to squalor and neglect?

 

I posted this, which I think needs a wider viewing than a mattress topic just to accentuate that poverty and squalor are not that uncommon and are distressing for all involved:

 

 

Tommy G: Whats the worst you've seen?

 

My reply: A baby born on a filth encrusted sofa that had recently been the birth place of a litter of kittens and was still damp from the animals placenta. The baby had the umbilical cord intact but separated from the mother. Mum was still bleeding onto the sofa, The human placenta had been delivered. Two dogs were sniffing around it.

 

There was no electricity or central heating. The walls in the room were bare plaster that had the old wallpaper scraped off to burn in the fireplace and had subsequently been smeared with animal excrement. Dog and cat food and bodily waste was trodden into the "carpet" and had hardened off so it was more like lino. 

 

It was a while ago now but I seem to remember there were 3 adults and 5-6 kids ranging from toddler to young teen also living in the property as well as a number of "pets" including reptiles in tanks.

 

I recall being told that the adults slept downstairs as the floorboards in the main bedroom had been ripped up for firewood. The same reason that were no doors or architraves.

 

The baby girl was born healthy, a good weight and size and was full term.

 

We took baby and her mother to hospital for the baby's safety and made a safeguarding referral.

 

I have no idea what became of any of them but it was so tragic and overwhelming at the time.

 

A part of the real world that not many of us see or experience first hand.

 

Edited 3 hours ago by Parafox

 

 

Sometimes I don't know how you did your job.

 

Did you just have to detach completely from your job in your personal life? If you did, how easy or hard did you find it? 

 

Curious to know but it's ok if you prefer not to answer.

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Posted (edited)
4 hours ago, Nalis said:

Sometimes I don't know how you did your job.

 

Did you just have to detach completely from your job in your personal life? If you did, how easy or hard did you find it? 

 

Curious to know but it's ok if you prefer not to answer.

 

When I was at work, I was at work and I had to separate that from anything else otherwise it would affected me and my home/family life.

 

Fortunately (?) I'm the kind of person that sees things in black and white and I was able to detach the tragedy, trauma and sadness of other peoples lives, from my own. That's not to say I wasn't affected in the long term and those experiences still haunt me from time to time. I might drive past a location where I attended a fatality or past a house where someone had tragically died and recall the whole incident.

 

(I'm writing this and finding it difficult to express 34 years of random involvement in other peoples crises, trauma and distress, be it serious or relatively insignificant).

 

My immediate family only know what I chose to tell them because Mrs P would never want to hear about it, so the most grim, sad, emotional, unpleasant and sometimes horrific stuff I've experienced, I keep in a closed box in my head, but yeah, I could tell you some stories.

 

I hope that answers your question, at least in part.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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