How much have we earned 20/21 PL/EL/FA/TV

[st albans fox]

Just now, sacreblueits442 said:

....are you willing to give up top four, to winning the Europa League!!!

Who wouldn’t ? 
 

a first euro trophy and CL seeded pot 1 following season 

 

no brainier 

[sacreblueits442]

2 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Who wouldn’t ? 
 

a first euro trophy and CL seeded pot 1 following season 

 

no brainier 

....it would be great to win a European trophy, but I would rather get to Champions League via the league position!!!

We know the rules regarding possible routes to Champions League but via the League has got to be the way for me.

[st albans fox]

1 minute ago, sacreblueits442 said:

....it would be great to win a European trophy, but I would rather get to Champions League via the league position!!!

We know the rules regarding possible routes to Champions League but via the League has got to be the way for me.

You’re surely joking ?????

[sacreblueits442]

7 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

You’re surely joking ?????

...no, very much the way I see it!!!

[King of Gipsy Lane]

4 hours ago, Spudulike said:

 

Season ticket money is now pocket change compared to this 😳😳😳

[OhYesNdidi]

26 minutes ago, King of Gipsy Lane said:

Season ticket money is now pocket change compared to this 😳😳😳

It’s a joke! They could easilly knock off 100/200£ at least for season tickets and they’d only lose a couple of million. 

[hackneyfox]

16 minutes ago, OhYesNdidi said:

It’s a joke! They could easilly knock off 100/200£ at least for season tickets and they’d only lose a couple of million. 

Knock it off STs and you have to match that for walk-ups. You're talking about £3m to £6m per season depending on how much you knock off. Not sure many businesses would happily lose 3.3% of turnover. 

The other problem is what happens if TV Money is drastically cut and the club decide they have to add £200 quid to the price of a ST? 

 

The best idea would be if you followed the away pricing rule and applied an upper limit of £35 to standard prices, that'd have Daniel Levy a tad worried.

 

[Heathrow fox]

17 minutes ago, hackneyfox said:

Knock it off STs and you have to match that for walk-ups. You're talking about £3m to £6m per season depending on how much you knock off. Not sure many businesses would happily lose 3.3% of turnover. 

The other problem is what happens if TV Money is drastically cut and the club decide they have to add £200 quid to the price of a ST? 

 

The best idea would be if you followed the away pricing rule and applied an upper limit of £35 to standard prices, that'd have Daniel Levy a tad worried.

 

Every penny counts.Which is why they charge eight quid for a Leicester coffee mug,and they sell.My Dad buys me one every birthday.The trouble with reducing ticket prices at the top of the chain is that the rest of the pyramid would have to follow suit.Ruinous at the best of times.

[Rsswmu]

4 hours ago, sacreblueits442 said:

...no, very much the way I see it!!!

A European trophy and a being pot 1 in the cl vs likely pot 4. Seems like a no brainer for me. 

[tylesta]

8 hours ago, sacreblueits442 said:

....it would be great to win a European trophy, but I would rather get to Champions League via the league position!!!

We know the rules regarding possible routes to Champions League but via the League has got to be the way for me.

Europa league is guranteed qualification 4th place ain't. Plus we be in pot one winning europa.

 

Give me something that you have been sniffing

[PhillippaT]

8 hours ago, st albans fox said:

You’re surely joking ?????

I he's not, he must be Shirley.

[King of Gipsy Lane]

8 hours ago, OhYesNdidi said:

It’s a joke! They could easilly knock off 100/200£ at least for season tickets and they’d only lose a couple of million. 

I agree ! Should be £250/450/650 

 

and kids under 16 free 2000 of those ! 

[Albert]

11 hours ago, sacreblueits442 said:

....it would be great to win a European trophy, but I would rather get to Champions League via the league position!!!

We know the rules regarding possible routes to Champions League but via the League has got to be the way for me.

So given the choice at the start of this season  you would’ve rather we got Europa league by finishing 5th in the league instead of winning the FA Cup? 

[sacreblueits442]

1 minute ago, Albert said:

So given the choice at the start of this season  you would’ve rather we got Europa league by finishing 5th in the league instead of winning the FA Cup? 

...winning the F.A. Cup obviously....!!!

 Winning the F.A.Cup is more than where it takes us in respect of European competition, it stands on its own. 

 Neither am I saying that should we win the Europa, then I would turn around and say "no thank you" to Champions League Competition, that would be insane , never mind foolhardy. 

Getting into Champions league via league position would say so much about who and what we are and moreover sends a message to the clubs with deep pockets, that their wealth, is no longer a guarantee to the riches Champions League offers.

[Captain...]

6 minutes ago, sacreblueits442 said:

...winning the F.A. Cup obviously....!!!

 Winning the F.A.Cup is more than where it takes us in respect of European competition, it stands on its own. 

 Neither am I saying that should we win the Europa, then I would turn around and say "no thank you" to Champions League Competition, that would be insane , never mind foolhardy. 

Getting into Champions league via league position would say so much about who and what we are and moreover sends a message to the clubs with deep pockets, that their wealth, is no longer a guarantee to the riches Champions League offers.

It may say all of that, but it will still put us in pot 4 and we could easily get bombed out of the CL without a win. Which will undo any statement a top 4 finish might make.

 

Win the Europa League you get a nice shiny trophy, a fvck ton of European experience, a much improved coefficient and top seed for the group stages in the CL where we could actually win the group like we did in 2016, massively boosting our coffers and coefficient. Get a second place team in the next round win that and then lose to Atleti.

[Chrysalis]

21 hours ago, sacreblueits442 said:

...no, very much the way I see it!!!

O_o

 

2-4th you win nothing and are not remembered for it in history books, get pot 4.

 

Win europa, pot 1 and a trophy, plus more coefficient for winning european games.

[foxes4life]

Better list.

https://www.planetfootball.com/quick-reads/a-club-by-club-breakdown-of-the-2020-21-premier-league-prize-money/

 

1. Manchester City

Actual League Position: 1st
No. Of Paid TV Games: 25
Estimated Prize Money: £161.7m
Estimated Rebate: £7.8m
Total: £153.9m

2019-20 payment: £168.3m
Difference: -£14.4m

 

2. Manchester United

Actual League Position: 2nd
No. Of Paid TV Games: 27
Estimated Prize Money: £160.9million
Estimated Rebate: £7.4million
Total: £153.5m

2019-20 payment: £166.2million
Difference: -11.9m

3. Chelsea

Actual League Position: 4th
No. Of Paid TV Games: 27
Estimated Prize Money: £158.2m
Estimated Rebate: £7.3m
Total: £150.9m

2019-20 payment: £160.9m
Difference: -£10m

4. Liverpool

Actual League Position: 3rd
No. Of Paid TV Games: 28
Estimated Prize Money: £156.5m
Estimated Rebate: £8.2m
Total: £148.3m

2019-20 payment: £174.6m
Difference: -£26.3m

 

5. West Ham

Actual League Position: 6th
No. Of Paid TV Games: 24
Estimated Prize Money: £147.4m
Estimated Rebate: £3.9m
Total: £143.5m

2019-20 payment: £113.4m
Difference: +£30.1m

 

6. Leicester City

Actual League Position: 5th
No. Of Paid TV Games: 22
Estimated Prize Money: £148.2m
Estimated Rebate: £6.9m
Total: £141.3m

2019-20 payment: £147.4m
Difference: -£6.1m

 

7. Tottenham

Actual League Position: 7th
No. Of Paid TV Games: 25
Estimated Prize Money: £145.7m
Estimated Rebate: £6.3m
Total: £139.4m

2019-20 payment:  £155.6m
Difference: -£16.2m

8. Leeds United

Actual League Position: 9th
No. Of Paid TV Games: 26
Estimated Prize Money: £138.6m
Estimated Rebate: N/A
Total: £138.6m

 

 

9. Arsenal

Actual League Position: 8th
No. Of Paid TV Games: 26
Estimated Prize Money: £141.2m
Estimated Rebate: £6.2m
Total: £135m

2019-20 payment: £148.2m
Difference: -£13.2m

10. Everton

Actual League Position: 10th
No. Of Paid TV Games: 21
Estimated Prize Money: £139.3m
Estimated Rebate: £4.9m
Total: £134.4m

2019-20 payment: £128.2m
Difference: +£6.2m

11. Aston Villa

Actual League Position: 11th
No. Of Paid TV Games: 15
Estimated Prize Money: £125.6m
Estimated Rebate: £3.4m
Total: £122.2m

2019-20 payment: £106.1m
Difference: +£16.1m

12. Wolves

Actual League Position: 13th
No. Of Paid TV Games: 18
Estimated Prize Money: £125.8m
Estimated Rebate: £5.9m
Total: £119.9m

2019-20 payment: £141.1m
Difference: -£21.2m

13. Newcastle United

Actual League Position: 12th
No. Of Paid TV Games: 22
Estimated Prize Money: £121.4m
Estimated Rebate: £4.5m
Total: £116.9m

2019-20 payment: £126m
Difference: -£9.1m

 

 

14. Crystal Palace

Actual League Position: 14th
No. Of Paid TV Games: 15
Estimated Prize Money: £120.3m
Estimated Rebate: £4.0m
Total: £116.3m

2019-20 payment: £115.6m
Difference: +£0.7m

15. Southampton

Actual League Position: 15th
No. Of Paid TV Games: 14
Estimated Prize Money: £116.7m
Estimated Rebate: £5.0m
Total: £111.7m

2019-20 payment: £123.1m
Difference: £11.4m

16. Brighton

Actual League Position: 16th
No. Of Paid TV Games: 14
Estimated Prize Money: £111.3m
Estimated Rebate: £3.8m
Total: £107.5m

2019-20 payment: £113.5m
Difference: -£6m

17. Burnley

Actual League Position: 17th
No. Of Paid TV Games: 12
Estimated Prize Money: £106.8m
Estimated Rebate: £5.1m
Total: £101.7m

2019-20 payment: £127.3m
Difference: -£25.6m

18. Fulham 

Actual League Position: 18th
No. Of Paid TV Games: 16
Estimated Prize Money: £107.8m
Estimated Rebate: £0.9m
Total: £106.9m

19. West Brom

Actual League Position: 19th
No. Of Paid TV Games: 13
Estimated Prize Money: £102.4m
Estimated Rebate: £0.7m
Total: £101.7m

20. Sheffield United 

Actual League Position: 20th
No. Of Paid TV Games: 10
Estimated Prize Money: £96.9m
Estimated Rebate: £5.9m
Total: £91m

2019-20 payment: £132.6m
Difference: £41.6m

[weller54]

On 25/05/2021 at 20:12, jbloggs said:

I saw segment on a sports program that Chelsea will greatly benefit financially with a place in the CL than Leicester City does by winning the FA Cup.

No comparison..

But I suppose winning the F A Cup isn't about financial reward.

[UHDrive]

PL PRIZE MONEY = £141.3M + £5M (FA CUP + TV) + £10M (UEFA + TV) =

£156.3M (TOTAL PRIZE MONEY)

+ (NEW SPONSORSHIP) = £30M (CIRCA)

= £186.3M 

- £97M (PLAYERS WAGES) 

 

= £89.3M (+ PLAYER SALES)

 

= £130M (TOTAL GUESS OF £40M SALES)

 

Plenty of players gone I.e. Dimi, Morgan, Fuchs and others to be sold.

 

I think FFP becomes obsolete this year due to the following uefa rule and its generic application to all clubs;

 

 ensuring equal treatment of clubs where the impact of COVID-19 may be realised in different reporting periods due to clubs’ various fiscal year ends and domestic league calendars;

 

If ever there was a time to take our club and players that little bit further in a year without selling any top stars then do it now.

 

*please bear in mind I am god awful with numbers* 

Edited 29 May 2021 by UHDrive

[st albans fox]

If only king power was a world leader in PPE rather than duty free airport sales ......