Dr The Singh Posted 7 December 2005 Posted 7 December 2005 Whilst that would be excellent it would also be unrealistic. If we had 2 new strikers, where would Hume fit in to this equation? And 2 new central midfielders would mean we would have 7 central midfielders and you could add Hume in to that if there's no place for him upfront. What we need is a striker and somebody to challenge Sylla for a place on the right wing and depending on when Wesolowski is fit perhaps a central midfielder who can open up defences. The reason for 2 strikers is the fact that I doubt MDV and Elvis's abilities, but to be honest MDV has proved me wrong so far being the top scorer at city! If levien were to bring midfielders in, I suppose he would get rid of some of them, I know it's unrealistic but that's what I would like!! I forgot about Sylla, we do need more competition for that position
Strokes Posted 7 December 2005 Posted 7 December 2005 Whilst that would be excellent it would also be unrealistic. If we had 2 new strikers, where would Hume fit in to this equation? And 2 new central midfielders would mean we would have 7 central midfielders and you could add Hume in to that if there's no place for him upfront. What we need is a striker and somebody to challenge Sylla for a place on the right wing and depending on when Wesolowski is fit perhaps a central midfielder who can open up defences. I'd like to see elvis go on the right hand side, then we can bring in a target man & a clinical finisher
Ric Flair Posted 8 December 2005 Posted 8 December 2005 David Templeton from Stenhousemuir is being talked about as the next big thing from Scotland. He's only 16 and has scored 3 goals in 3 appearances. Lots of big teams are looking at him, let's enter the fray.
shen Posted 8 December 2005 Author Posted 8 December 2005 David Templeton from Stenhousemuir is being talked about as the next big thing from Scotland. He's only 16 and has scored 3 goals in 3 appearances. Lots of big teams are looking at him, let's enter the fray. A sixteen year old from Stenhousemuir? 3 appearances? Take it easy there Ric. I feel that with Rooney having emerged, everyone thinks they've got the new 16-year old wonderkid. Milner has flopped a bit, James Vaughan is almost forgotten, Southampton think they've got the next big thing in Walcott, and we have Chambers who some people are praising beyond belief I feel, and he's only played what...8 minutes of first team football?! My point is, I don't understand why this young age makes everyone wet their pants. Who says that we can develop these young players well enough anyway? I'd rather we looked at some players that have been developped somewhat already, that are in the 19-20 age bracket like Hume...
Ric Flair Posted 8 December 2005 Posted 8 December 2005 A sixteen year old from Stenhousemuir? 3 appearances? Take it easy there Ric. I feel that with Rooney having emerged, everyone thinks they've got the new 16-year old wonderkid. Milner has flopped a bit, James Vaughan is almost forgotten, Southampton think they've got the next big thing in Walcott, and we have Chambers who some people are praising beyond belief I feel, and he's only played what...8 minutes of first team football?! My point is, I don't understand why this young age makes everyone wet their pants. Who says that we can develop these young players well enough anyway? I'd rather we looked at some players that have been developped somewhat already, that are in the 19-20 age bracket like Hume... I'd never even heard of him until earlier when I stumbled upon an article about him and lots of press, etc are making him out to be a whizkid. I just thought i'd add him in to this thread, Levein reckoned he knew about every single player in Scotland and if Templeton is that good then perhaps Levein might be circling. Also it wouldn't do us any harm in having 2 or 3 16-18 year old strikers pushing for a first team place. As you have seen without Chambers, Dodds and Graham the reserves struggle massively.
shen Posted 8 December 2005 Author Posted 8 December 2005 I'd never even heard of him until earlier when I stumbled upon an article about him and lots of press, etc are making him out to be a whizkid. I just thought i'd add him in to this thread, Levein reckoned he knew about every single player in Scotland and if Templeton is that good then perhaps Levein might be circling. Also it wouldn't do us any harm in having 2 or 3 16-18 year old strikers pushing for a first team place. As you have seen without Chambers, Dodds and Graham the reserves struggle massively. We have those strikers...you just named them. We hardly need anymore as they would just get in eachothers way. And that's what I mean... the medias hype up alot since Rooney had his breakthrough. He might be good...he might even be a whizkid, but are we capable of developing such a talent?
Ric Flair Posted 8 December 2005 Posted 8 December 2005 We have those strikers...you just named them. We hardly need anymore as they would just get in eachothers way. And that's what I mean... the medias hype up alot since Rooney had his breakthrough. He might be good...he might even be a whizkid, but are we capable of developing such a talent? You need more than 3 strikers in the 15-18 age bracket and we could argue that atleast one of the 3 we've got won't be good enough. I think the club needs to invest in more youngsters and even if this lad isn't a 'whizkid' he might well be extremely talented and bringing him in to develop in our academy/reserves would be brilliant.
shen Posted 8 December 2005 Author Posted 8 December 2005 You need more than 3 strikers in the 15-18 age bracket and we could argue that atleast one of the 3 we've got won't be good enough. I think the club needs to invest in more youngsters and even if this lad isn't a 'whizkid' he might well be extremely talented and bringing him in to develop in our academy/reserves would be brilliant. Well if just one of those three will make it, it would be a success. Heskey's the last striker we developed that actually made the grade, and that's a long time ago now. I'd rather we did something to strengthen our production in the wide areas. It's beginning to look like Piper was a one off. Imagine if we could find the next Smudger out there? Porter might make the grade and Sheehan seems to have the potential, but we badly need more promising wide players...
Ric Flair Posted 8 December 2005 Posted 8 December 2005 Well if just one of those three will make it, it would be a success. Heskey's the last striker we developed that actually made the grade, and that's a long time ago now. I'd rather we did something to strengthen our production in the wide areas. It's beginning to look like Piper was a one off. Imagine if we could find the next Smudger out there? Porter might make the grade and Sheehan seems to have the potential, but we badly need more promising wide players... Joe Mattock looks like a very exciting left midfielder but your right we haven't enough wide players coming through. Infact we haven't enough players coming through full stop and it might take a few years for this to happen but Levein did say he wanted to bring through atleast 3 players a season. We certainly haven't enough strikers if O'Grady and Wright leave which I think they will do. A year or so ago we had Dodds, Petrescu, Graham, Wright and O'Grady and it's obvious that some or all wouldn't make the grade but it was good that we had 5 young strikers playing for the youth teams and reserves. Now we only have 3 as one has left, 2 are on loan and will leave permanently and we have had one more come through in to the reckoning (Chambers) We need more strikers coming through, I haven't heard of any in the Under 16's this season that sound promising but I might be mistaken. This lad could be what we need.
Manwell Pablo Posted 8 December 2005 Posted 8 December 2005 Joe Mattock looks like a very exciting left midfielder but your right we haven't enough wide players coming through. Infact we haven't enough players coming through full stop and it might take a few years for this to happen but Levein did say he wanted to bring through atleast 3 players a season. We certainly haven't enough strikers if O'Grady and Wright leave which I think they will do. A year or so ago we had Dodds, Petrescu, Graham, Wright and O'Grady and it's obvious that some or all wouldn't make the grade but it was good that we had 5 young strikers playing for the youth teams and reserves. Now we only have 3 as one has left, 2 are on loan and will leave permanently and we have had one more come through in to the reckoning (Chambers) We need more strikers coming through, I haven't heard of any in the Under 16's this season that sound promising but I might be mistaken. This lad could be what we need. Scottish lower leagues are a awful level as you know. However if he has what it takes sign the lad up. but it going to be hard to know from 3 apperances for Stenhousemuir. I would much prefere a established first team striker. Youngsters are all well and good but we do already have some good prospects. Where as we are currently lacking the finished article in 1st team.
Thracian Posted 8 December 2005 Posted 8 December 2005 You need more than 3 strikers in the 15-18 age bracket and we could argue that atleast one of the 3 we've got won't be good enough. I think the club needs to invest in more youngsters and even if this lad isn't a 'whizkid' he might well be extremely talented and bringing him in to develop in our academy/reserves would be brilliant. Dead right. Put promising young players in and around really talented ones and you get an immediate knock on effect as I've seen time and again in football and other sports. You also need numbers because, with football, only a proportion will play for the City for any time and others will have to be sold/shipped out. It is important as well to ensure your Academy set-up is attractive to young prospects, not only through the standard/variety of coaching but by showing that players will get a chance to break through and not be kept sidelined by inferior imports. Two minimum, occasionally three a year (into the first team squad) is the sort of target to be aiming at. Sounds easy but it takes some doing and the fewer no-hopers knocking around the better. Each prospect should really have some quality or qualities that set him apart in some way. The coaches need to have imaginative and effective ideas, to equate with young people temperamentally, to be outstanding communicators and to be able to motivate even the most difficult and egotistical people. Teenagers with talent often don't come with stable, co-operative temperaments. Maturity, one hopes, comes with time and confidence. But it is often the volatile and awkward ones who are the real gems, if only they'll give you chance to help em sparkle.. One of the things that really bothered me about the youngsters' 5-0 defeat by Charlton was how matter of fact they seemed in taking it. No-one was trying to re-organise things, no-one was lambasting a teammate for delivering bad passes or for failing to pass after taking up a good position. Everyone worked hard but losing didn't seem to hurt enough for me. It was one of the reasons I saw very few prospective professionals on Tuesday. For a good professional, losing has always gotta hurt - and hurt enough to let it show. Of course, in the big scheme of things, the lads were learning and the match was of no great consequence. But winning is the object, whatever the level, and winning is infectious. It is an attitude which needs to be ingrained as part of the club psyche (we could do with it in the first team for a start). Genuinely talented kids with a winning mentality is what's needed in the Leicester Feeder teams. We have some, but Ric's right - we could certainly use some more.
shen Posted 8 December 2005 Author Posted 8 December 2005 ... No-one was trying to re-organise things, no-one was lambasting a teammate for delivering bad passes or for failing to pass after taking up a good position. Everyone worked hard but losing didn't seem to hurt enough for me. It was one of the reasons I saw very few prospective professionals on Tuesday. For a good professional, losing has always gotta hurt - and hurt enough to let it show. ... Charlton arguably had the strongest team sheet in a reserve game against us this year, and we undoubtedly put our weakest side out there in ages. You can't blame them in my opinion. At least 4-5 players were completely new to the reserves and they're up against players, some of which have more than 50 caps internationally! Even in a reserve game, there must have been plenty of nerves. For some of these lads this might have been the only game they got to impress the coaches, and to get that only game against such a team must have had the nerves jangling. When you see a lower league side get smeared out by a big club, you don't see them screaming at eachother to pass the ball better. They know they're outclassed, they know they can't get back once they're 0-3 down, so it's only understandable that their heads drop...
Thracian Posted 8 December 2005 Posted 8 December 2005 Charlton arguably had the strongest team sheet in a reserve game against us this year, and we undoubtedly put our weakest side out there in ages. You can't blame them in my opinion. At least 4-5 players were completely new to the reserves and they're up against players, some of which have more than 50 caps internationally! Even in a reserve game, there must have been plenty of nerves. For some of these lads this might have been the only game they got to impress the coaches, and to get that only game against such a team must have had the nerves jangling. When you see a lower league side get smeared out by a big club, you don't see them screaming at eachother to pass the ball better. They know they're outclassed, they know they can't get back once they're 0-3 down, so it's only understandable that their heads drop... You're very supportive and I admire it in you. But I feel we'd have contrasting temperaments on any sports field.
Benji Posted 8 December 2005 Posted 8 December 2005 does anyone know if dodds is injured or just suddenly gone out of favour? he was regularly playing and scoring in the reserves with muggleton, but haven't seen him in the team for quite a while
Foxes_Wizard_Striker Posted 8 December 2005 Posted 8 December 2005 Whilst that would be excellent it would also be unrealistic. If we had 2 new strikers, where would Hume fit in to this equation? And 2 new central midfielders would mean we would have 7 central midfielders and you could add Hume in to that if there's no place for him upfront. What we need is a striker and somebody to challenge Sylla for a place on the right wing and depending on when Wesolowski is fit perhaps a central midfielder who can open up defences. Okay I dont go to the games often but Isn't Hughes is the man to do that?
Thracian Posted 8 December 2005 Posted 8 December 2005 does anyone know if dodds is injured or just suddenly gone out of favour? he was regularly playing and scoring in the reserves with muggleton, but haven't seen him in the team for quite a while I think someone mentioned that he was injured but I'll stand correcting.
Nationwider Posted 8 December 2005 Posted 8 December 2005 Trundle would be a great signing Trundle would be a great big signing
Foxes_Wizard_Striker Posted 8 December 2005 Posted 8 December 2005 I'm not sure if we should sign a league one/two striker, after all all strikers who move up from league 1/2 level often struggle I cant remember a lower level striker still banging them in after moving up a level apart from Nugent of Preston so I think we shouldn't sign likes of Trundle,Kirk and Fallon just look at Tyson of Forest
Manwell Pablo Posted 8 December 2005 Posted 8 December 2005 I'm not sure if we should sign a league one/two striker, after all all strikers who move up from league 1/2 level often struggle I cant remember a lower level striker still banging them in after moving up a level apart from Nugent of Preston so I think we shouldn't sign likes of Trundle,Kirk and Fallon just look at Tyson of Forest I think its safe to say there would be little risk in signing lee trundle. As in his eyes he's premier league quality and he isn't to far off being wrong ( top championship striker I would say would find life difficult in the prem) alot of strikers come from the lower leagues to the championship, Leroy Lita probabley the best example.
Ric Flair Posted 9 December 2005 Posted 9 December 2005 does anyone know if dodds is injured or just suddenly gone out of favour? he was regularly playing and scoring in the reserves with muggleton, but haven't seen him in the team for quite a while Yes he's injured, has been for about 6 weeks now I think. Johnbluefox will know more I reckon. I'd love to see Dodds given a chance, it's hard to tell whether he's good enough or not. Clinical finisher at youth and reserve level and has a great footballing brain, it's a shame he's been injured at a time when we were lacking strikers as he might of got a chance up at Bolton.
Hoof Fox Posted 9 December 2005 Posted 9 December 2005 Matt Fryatt at Walsall would be a good signing, and according to press rumours could be available for as little as 250k as he is out of contract in the summer.
Manwell Pablo Posted 9 December 2005 Posted 9 December 2005 Matt Fryatt at Walsall would be a good signing, and according to press rumours could be available for as little as 250k as he is out of contract in the summer. Don't agree their are better strikers then Matty Fryatt in that league who we would be able to afford .
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