Should Brendan Stay?

[gurru991]

I don't care if he stays for the 22/23 season as long as we stay up but the obvious truth is that he needs to go. 

He is not good for the club & I don't feel we can move forward as long as he is skulking around.

Hopefully upper management will now understand the dangers of handing out mega bucks long term contracts. 

[fuchsntf]

7 hours ago, francis39 said:

Absolutely. We allowed these 3 poor teams to shoot 1x times per match. They just failed to hit the target most of the time. Will stronger teams not score a bunch of goals if so?

There are no poor teams in the PL…end of..!!

i enjoy the PL & deny any fan who looks down on it,,

In fact any top European league

football is as it is,nomatter how it’s rapped….

Too many fans are tied into Football- manager PC crap & soap-opera debates.

Just go out & enjoy it…

[BoyJones]

25 minutes ago, fuchsntf said:

There are no poor teams in the PL…end of..!!

i enjoy the PL & deny any fan who looks down on it,,

In fact any top European league

football is as it is,nomatter how it’s rapped….

Too many fans are tied into Football- manager PC crap & soap-opera debates.

Just go out & enjoy it…

You’re hitting your head against a brick wall. We had a better fan base 14 years ago in Division Three. 
 

I’ve been to many away games and it is clear that there is an underlying hope from many who attend away games (I won’t call them fans) that we lose games so they can instigate and ferment unrest and trouble. Arsenal away was an absolute disgrace at half time, anybody defending the team got a kick in on the concourse. 
 

I’ve been following the City home and away for 60+ years, this is the most toxic unforgiving fans I’ve ever encountered. Winning is all that matters, anything else and all hell breaks loose. I feel sorry for the players. I’m surprised that any of them want to stay. Hopefully they don’t read all the hate on FT. 

[Mendi]

Should go.

[fuchsntf]

4 hours ago, BoyJones said:

You’re hitting your head against a brick wall. We had a better fan base 14 years ago in Division Three. 
 

I’ve been to many away games and it is clear that there is an underlying hope from many who attend away games (I won’t call them fans) that we lose games so they can instigate and ferment unrest and trouble. Arsenal away was an absolute disgrace at half time, anybody defending the team got a kick in on the concourse. 
 

I’ve been following the City home and away for 60+ years, this is the most toxic unforgiving fans I’ve ever encountered. Winning is all that matters, anything else and all hell breaks loose. I feel sorry for the players. I’m surprised that any of them want to stay. Hopefully they don’t read all the hate on FT. 

I just try and balance out the unsavoury stuff and negativity…

evertbody as a right to an opinion…but cynical attack of character & whining every week as become tedious& actually boring…
I have 60+yrs of support behind me,plus knowing a lot of top media-types from all sports…There was always 1-2 journos that would make stories,by personal shit

stirring…Now we have W.wide social media,where everybody today seems to want

mothing but hate, & soap-opera style stories…

@BoyJones We fight a löst cause, but Black sabbath/Status quo hardened me up to some decent head-banging…

I feel sorry for their kids having Papas,spitting all those negatives,when their own kids, are trying but only here the cynical remarks ,if they slip up….

 

[NewEnglandFox]

Somewhere around the international/royal break I said or thought he needs to be comfortably mid-table by the world cup. Still not there. Still out.

[gerblod]

I listened to RL last night - first time in a long time. I switched on during a tactical masterclass concerning Tielemans' place lately in the formation. Don't know who was explaining, but he knew his stuff alright.

Seems that he's been holding a position at right-back when Castagne moves upfield. It's given him more time to see potential passes and tackles/interceptions - preventing him being bypassed in midfield - as has been happening heretofore.

The conjecture was whether this ploy could be Rodgers' brainchild or, at least, introduced by him. The general opinion was 'yes'. However, several other teams' players were mentioned in this rôle, including Trent-Arnold - who's been doing this for some time.

It's worked, yet I'm not going to forget two seasons of inept and clueless subs, transfers and tactical decisions - as if these were leading up to the culmination of some masterplan on his behalf.

When he came he had a gifted pool of players to pick from. But I felt his personal preferences interfered with his objectivity. He's eventually Imanaged wins against Forest, Leeds and Wolves - but they're hardly tough nuts to crack - especially with our prolific attack. Wout Faes has solidified a panicky defence - a transfer which has been necessary for two seasons. Tielemans can't be relied upon to stay, so this resurgence is likely to be limited by his leaving.

And there's tougher tests to come - imminently Man City. If they do ok and don't ship a cartload of goals with Faes getting bulldozed by the Terminator, then Rodgers might have turned the corner. But it'll take a long run of good results before I support him staying and that will be for stability's sake.

[CrazyKopCorner]

There's not a way back for me. 

 

Way too much BS and disrespect

[Ricey]

He can't turn this around to the point where we are playing to our expected level. He might win enough matches to stay up, but in my opinion this squad should be around 8th or 9th, knocking on the door of Europe if a few of the better teams have a bad season. We are still far away from that.

 

The damage is done with the fans, mainly because of the stance he has taken on pretty much every subject and the fact that he was willing to throw everyone under the bus when the going got tough.

 

Tactically as well things haven't really changed too much and won't ever change too much, so why should anyone expect a rapid upturn in fortunes? At best it will be like last season, which we can all agree wasn't great despite ending up finishing 8th.

 

Despite the recent results I'm still massively concerned by the amount of pressure we are letting other teams put us under. Granted, we are defending the box well and counter attacking with lethal proficiency, but it doesn't feel sustainable in the long run. I feel like it's inevitable that we'll have another shocking run of 3 or 4 matches when the toxicity towards him will return.

 

I just hope the club aren't burying their heads in the sand and believing that we have an elite manager that we need to keep of at all costs. His time here is done and we need to preparing for the next man.

[somebum]

Braindead supporters.

[Ricey]

1 hour ago, gerblod said:

I listened to RL last night - first time in a long time. I switched on during a tactical masterclass concerning Tielemans' place lately in the formation. Don't know who was explaining, but he knew his stuff alright.

Seems that he's been holding a position at right-back when Castagne moves upfield. It's given him more time to see potential passes and tackles/interceptions - preventing him being bypassed in midfield - as has been happening heretofore.

The conjecture was whether this ploy could be Rodgers' brainchild or, at least, introduced by him. The general opinion was 'yes'. However, several other teams' players were mentioned in this rôle, including Trent-Arnold - who's been doing this for some time.

It's worked, yet I'm not going to forget two seasons of inept and clueless subs, transfers and tactical decisions - as if these were leading up to the culmination of some masterplan on his behalf.

When he came he had a gifted pool of players to pick from. But I felt his personal preferences interfered with his objectivity. He's eventually Imanaged wins against Forest, Leeds and Wolves - but they're hardly tough nuts to crack - especially with our prolific attack. Wout Faes has solidified a panicky defence - a transfer which has been necessary for two seasons. Tielemans can't be relied upon to stay, so this resurgence is likely to be limited by his leaving.

And there's tougher tests to come - imminently Man City. If they do ok and don't ship a cartload of goals with Faes getting bulldozed by the Terminator, then Rodgers might have turned the corner. But it'll take a long run of good results before I support him staying and that will be for stability's sake.

He has always done that to a certain degree, it's not a new thing, but it is noticeable that he's doing it to a much greater extent this season.

[Guest ttfn]

17 minutes ago, Ricey said:

He has always done that to a certain degree, it's not a new thing, but it is noticeable that he's doing it to a much greater extent this season.

Surprised that people are seeing this as a huge tactical revolution in the last couple of games. Go back a few weeks and Rodgers was getting panned for the very same tactics.

[Stadt]

We've over performed our xG by 6.6 (19 goals from 12.4 xG)

15th for shots

14th for xG for

16th for xGA against 

13th for shots against 

 

Remarkable how he's taking a squad somewhere between the 7th-9th best in the league to a relegation scrap. Scoring 6 goals from 5 shots on target across the Leeds and Wolves game sums up how fortunate Rodgers has been.

[Lionator]

Ideally, we want to be in a position of stability before we make a change ie at the end of the season. 

[Dames]

1 hour ago, Ricey said:

He can't turn this around to the point where we are playing to our expected level. He might win enough matches to stay up, but in my opinion this squad should be around 8th or 9th, knocking on the door of Europe if a few of the better teams have a bad season. We are still far away from that.

 

The damage is done with the fans, mainly because of the stance he has taken on pretty much every subject and the fact that he was willing to throw everyone under the bus when the going got tough.

 

Tactically as well things haven't really changed too much and won't ever change too much, so why should anyone expect a rapid upturn in fortunes? At best it will be like last season, which we can all agree wasn't great despite ending up finishing 8th.

 

Despite the recent results I'm still massively concerned by the amount of pressure we are letting other teams put us under. Granted, we are defending the box well and counter attacking with lethal proficiency, but it doesn't feel sustainable in the long run. I feel like it's inevitable that we'll have another shocking run of 3 or 4 matches when the toxicity towards him will return.

 

I just hope the club aren't burying their heads in the sand and believing that we have an elite manager that we need to keep of at all costs. His time here is done and we need to preparing for the next man.

This is what worries me is now that we've pulled away from the relegation scrap for the time being Top might start feeling vindicated with his faith in Rodgers.

 

With all the players leaving next summer and the need to sign quality replacements probably on a budget I'm very skeptical of Rodgers being in charge of that rebuild considering signings on his watch have led us to being in a position where we could barely afford a free transfer until we sold a player for 70m. He's already moaned about not getting a penny with a full squad, imagine what he'll be like with half a squad.