Newcastle (H) - 26 Dec- Pre-match thread

[Sharpe's Fox]

When Rodgers says right winger I fully expect he means a player with no pace playing behind the striker in France.

[gw_leics772]

On 21/12/2022 at 15:48, Spudulike said:

Whilst Soumare has clearly improved this season I would still play Wilf ahead of him (if fit). He looked almost back to his best in that first half against Notts Forrest until he did his hamstring. 

I've just been wondering whether soumare has now overtaken ndidi completely in the pecking order, nice problem to have if it is rightly so. Was ndidi fully fit for mk dons and if so, was he saved for this game or just that square us now favoured? (Or even horses for courses?)

 

Would appreciate any info on this as my brain has died during the world Cup.

 

Ps. I'm getting proper excited for this now. My best case scenario is that it proves that Newcastle are all that but we are either same level or better and our shit spell was just a shit spell. (Like izzy wizzy let's get busy)

 

Edit: great discussion on this straight after this one that I replied to.

Edited 23 December 2022 by gw_leics772

[gw_leics772]

On 21/12/2022 at 14:16, Miquel The Work Geordie said:

 

Depends if their owners will appreciate this is a massive chance to get ahead of the curve and give Howe the proverbial war chest in Jan; absolutely no chance did they envisage possible Champions League so soon.

 

This, ditto arsenal who sound like they are going balls deep for a new striker.

[gw_leics772]

On 21/12/2022 at 17:11, TK95 said:

I just get the feeling Soumare will bag a goal at some point too. N'Didi seems to have lost his shooting ability as years have gone by

I dont recall him ever having one. 9 shots out of 10 are like that Huth one and the other one has a chance of being a worldie (or close at least)

Edited 23 December 2022 by gw_leics772

[TJQuik]

3 minutes ago, gw_leics772 said:

I dont recall him ever having one. 9 shots out of 10 are like that Huth one and the other one has a chance of being a worldie (or close at least)

Scored a screamer against Chelsea in an empty KP. There was a fair bit of luck with it taking a big deflection off the post mind

[gw_leics772]

On 22/12/2022 at 15:13, TheFish said:

Always fascinating to read opinions of Newcastle from fans of other clubs. Not sure I agree with everything said, comparing Bruno to Drinkwater is a borderline hate crime. 

 

The thing about Burn at LB, it means Trippier can bomb on down the right flank and Burn tucks in a bit as a 3rd CB. Willock or Joelinton play as an ersatz LWB, the other plays further forward as a pressing wide midfielder/forward. Only really works properly with those two players ahead of him. Stick ASM there and... well... no. Not so much.

I tend to agree, at first glance, on the bruno/drinkwater comparison, but it is easy to forget,with what has happened since, that drinkwater was as good for us that season as he was shit ever since (somehow including the season after where we somehow fleeced Chelsea!)

 

It really was the perfect storm for us and although I don't think you'll get that close to the top spot, as far as champions league is concerned, I think it looks good for your lot, Liverpool shit start, man City 5 points off arsenal, arsenal's chance of flopping (I actually think and hope they wont).

 

Bottom line, I hope you do it, preferably without spending a shit ton of money in January. I know the sportswashing shit is bad but I'm talking from a purely footballing perspective and that Saudi win over Argentina did more for sportswashing this year then anything you guys are doing right now. I loved that!

[gw_leics772]

8 minutes ago, TJQuik said:

Scored a screamer against Chelsea in an empty KP. There was a fair bit of luck with it taking a big deflection off the post mind

I was struggling to remember a 1 in 10 screamer tbf, hence the bracketed part in my original post. 🤣

[TJQuik]

4 minutes ago, gw_leics772 said:

I tend to agree, at first glance, on the bruno/drinkwater comparison, but it is easy to forget,with what has happened since, that drinkwater was as good for us that season as he was shit ever since (somehow including the season after where we somehow fleeced Chelsea!)

 

 

The elite manager Conte, who made an elite decision to spend 35 bars on Drinkwater to play next to Kanté because they had a good partnership two seasons before.

 

Always tickles me...

Edited 23 December 2022 by TJQuik

[gw_leics772]

23 hours ago, TK95 said:

What even is an honesty flag? Isn't it just a flag? 

I know this!

 

It's what you give to your partner when you  are against marriage but want to show commitment, and prove to people its a serious relationship.

 

Down wit da yoof innit!

[SkidsFox]

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Transfers?

“We’ve a couple of areas we would like to improve and we hope to do that. There’s been plenty of work behind the scenes. Hopefully we can improve the depth

We're signing no-one aren't we? "would like" and "hopefully" are big giveaways.

[gw_leics772]

21 hours ago, CosbehFox said:

The honesty flags is us copying Newcastle and just another sign that the middle tier of management of this club lives on some corporate horseshit planet with zero appreciation with what actual football supporters desire 

I like free flags to stick on ebay or wipe my arse with or whatever you are supposed to do with souvenirs 🤣

[gw_leics772]

21 hours ago, Finnegan said:

 

.....Meanwhile, Bruno Guimares' career highlights in Europe to date are coming second in the French league cup and somehow convincing the British media he's a global superstar. 

 

.....

 

If he was here, I wouldn't break up what should be our first choice midfield (Tielemans, Maddison, Ndidi) for him. I mean his closest like for like of that three is Tielemans I suppose and he's not at all of that calibre.

 

 

Point 1, I was checking myself and was sure he'd won copa del rey with sociedad, and found he'd won a bit more than our Danny had contributed to at that stage in his career. (Transfermarkt.com or whatever said he won more with man u but I'm orettu sure he was just there when they won it, at best)

 

Regarding 2nd point above, I'd swap him on a heartbeat for Tielemans. Certainly seems more consistent imo.

[CosbehFox]

10 minutes ago, gw_leics772 said:

Point 1, I was checking myself and was sure he'd won copa del rey with sociedad, and found he'd won a bit more than our Danny had contributed to at that stage in his career. (Transfermarkt.com or whatever said he won more with man u but I'm orettu sure he was just there when they won it, at best)

 

Regarding 2nd point above, I'd swap him on a heartbeat for Tielemans. Certainly seems more consistent imo.

That’s not Bruno Guimaraes honours, that’s Aleksander Isak’s. 
 

Guimaraes though did win the Copa da Brazil 

[Finnegan]

39 minutes ago, gw_leics772 said:

Point 1, I was checking myself and was sure he'd won copa del rey with sociedad, and found he'd won a bit more than our Danny had contributed to at that stage in his career. (Transfermarkt.com or whatever said he won more with man u but I'm orettu sure he was just there when they won it, at best)

 

Regarding 2nd point above, I'd swap him on a heartbeat for Tielemans. Certainly seems more consistent imo.

 

Given that Bruno hasn't played for either Sociedad or Dortmund those stats are really impressive. 

[Guest Chocolate Teapot]

5 hours ago, TheFish said:

Yeah he didn't have a great final season at Sociedad, but I had a dig into what happened at his previous club a bit more and I learned he was shifted away from his preferred central striker position to accommodate Sorloth. That meant he wasn't the focus of the attack any more, fewer good chances, compounded by a lower conversion rate.

 

But throughout his career when he has been played as the main striker, he's getting about 0.5 goals a game. This with various scout reports and the like, this all shows that he's clearly got promise. He's only played about 242 minutes and scored twice (should have been 3, but dodgy offside, Refs are rubbish and Liverpool are cheats, I'm not bitter you are). I'm very excited to see what a fully fit Isak will bring to Newcastle. 

Hes literally never been a 1 in 2 striker. At best 1 in 4. And he got shifted out of his preferred position for someone like sorloth? Scored a good goal in the world cup and was good as a youth apart from that he's a myth and they must have been laughing when you offered 60m.

[Jawdee]

5 hours ago, TrentFox said:

Newcastle are a weird one. Confess to having always had a soft spot for them since the Asprilla team. Their fans are superb, on the whole, and turn out in big numbers. It wasn’t their fault the club sold its soul to that appalling regime. But I just can’t see past that regime and how our game is allowing it to be normalised. So, sorry Geordie newbies in here, can’t help but wish every ill on your short-medium future. But I look forward to the day when you rid yourself of the Saudis and can be my third club again. (Carlisle, if anyone is curious) 😂

 

That's fine. I'm opposed to state ownership, especially those with shitty human rights records. It's when people put it on the fans who have little to no say in the matter. The Government and Premier League should have tightened up the ownership rules pre-Man City, but here we are. That all comes second to their thirst for cash.

 

[TJQuik]

12 minutes ago, Jawdee said:

 

That's fine. I'm opposed to state ownership, especially those with shitty human rights records. It's when people put it on the fans who have little to no say in the matter. The Government and Premier League should have tightened up the ownership rules pre-Man City, but here we are. That all comes second to their thirst for cash.

 

Sorry but this justification doesn't cut it for me. If it happens to Leicester I'll simply stop supporting.

[davieG]

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Dewsbury-Hall In Contention - Pre-Newcastle Fitness News
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Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall is available for selection in Boxing Day's clash with Newcastle United, but manager Brendan Rodgers has confirmed that Leicester City will be without some others over the coming weeks.

- Leicester City host Newcastle United at King Power Stadium on Boxing Day (3pm GMT kick-off)
- Foxes manager Brendan Rodgers has spoken about the fitness of his squad
- Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall is in contention to appear, but James Maddison will be assessed
- There's also news on Jonny Evans, Ricardo Pereira, James Justin, Ryan Bertrand and Will Alves

Dewsbury-Hall picked up a minor calf issue in a behind-closed-doors friendly with Sheffield United during the FIFA World Cup break, leading to him missing the 3-0 win at MK Dons in the Carabao Cup. James Maddison, though, may miss that clash with Newcastle, while Jonny Evans is also out.

"Kiernan is fine," Rodgers told the media at LCFC Training Ground on Friday. "He just felt his calf a little bit in the Sheffield United game we played behind closed doors, but he’s recovered and he trained yesterday and today, so he’s fine."

Maddison (knee) will be assessed before the visit of Eddie Howe's Magpies, but Evans (calf) is expected to miss that game. The Club captain was substituted early on during another mid-season friendly against French outfit Troyes earlier this month.

He’s been consistent for 18 months now. Hopefully, there’s no doubting his talent. We’ll get him fit and I’m pretty sure we’ll see him hit that same level.

Brendan Rodgers on James Maddison
"We’re going to give it every chance to see where [Maddison's] at," the Foxes manager added.  "He’s had some ongoing issues with his knee for a little bit of time, so we’ll just assess that over the next couple of days. 

"He’s been consistent for 18 months now. Hopefully, there’s no doubting his talent. We’ll get him fit and I’m pretty sure we’ll see him hit that same level. Jonny Evans is not so good. He had an injury against Troyes. It’s an issue with his calf so unfortunately he’ll be out for a period of time."

Ricardo Pereira (Achilles), on the other hand, is continuing his recovery, as is James Justin (Achilles). The latter picked up his injury some time after Ricardo, but both are working with the Club's medical teams on their eventual returns to action. There was also an update on Ryan Bertrand (knee).

"[Ricardo's] doing very well," Rodgers explained. "We’re hoping at some point in January, towards the middle or the end, he can re-join the group, so that’s great news. JJ is working behind the scenes as well, doing his strength work. 

"Ryan is out on the field now. He’s still not near to playing yet but he’s progressed from inside to outside, so that’s a good sign."

 

Rodgers also wished youngster Will Alves well after the Academy star was ruled out for the rest of 2022/23 with an ACL injury sustained in an FA Youth Cup win at Wolves U18s earlier this week. A day beforehand, the talented midfielder starred from the bench for City's senior side at MK Dons.

"We have one which is a real sad one for us," the manager explained. "We lost one of our young talents, Will Alves. It's such a shame for a young player who's 17 and making his way in the game, making his mark. That was the only real disappointment for us because he's a young player he's been in and round it.

"We wish him a speedy recovery and we'll get him back. It'll certainly be the rest of the season that he'll be out for so his rehab will start now over the next few weeks and then he'll have an operation after that."

The work continues for Leicester's players over the coming days, with the squad in on Christmas day to prepare for Boxing Day's action.

"We’ll be in on Christmas Day training," Rodgers confirmed. "We’ve had a period of rest and the players have worked really, really hard and done some great work too. We’re back into normal preparation. We’ll be here to finalise our plans and then we’re really looking forward to the game on Boxing Day."

[Jawdee]

28 minutes ago, TJQuik said:

Sorry but this justification doesn't cut it for me. If it happens to Leicester I'll simply stop supporting.

 

I've supported the club since I was a boy, I don't really know any different. I couldn't walk away under Ashley and I'd find it hard to do so now.

 

I'm fully aware the regime in Saudi are an awful bunch and I'd much rather not be owned by them, but I didn't chose to be nor did I have any say in the matter.

 

I'm all for raising awareness of their atrocities and will welcome a rule change if it comes to ensure clubs can't be directly or indirectly owned  by states, but I will can continue to support my football club.

 

That almost certainly makes me a hypocrite, but it's not a black and white matter (so to speak) and everyone will have a take based on their own moral compass.

 

[Paninistickers]

12 minutes ago, Jawdee said:

 

I've supported the club since I was a boy, I don't really know any different. I couldn't walk away under Ashley and I'd find it hard to do so now.

 

I'm fully aware the regime in Saudi are an awful bunch and I'd much rather not be owned by them, but I didn't chose to be nor did I have any say in the matter.

 

I'm all for raising awareness of their atrocities and will welcome a rule change if it comes to ensure clubs can't be directly or indirectly owned  by states, but I will can continue to support my football club.

 

That almost certainly makes me a hypocrite, but it's not a black and white matter (so to speak) and everyone will have a take based on their own moral compass.

 

Mate, it's preposterous for anyone to take the moral high ground and/or claim they'd stop supporting their club. 

 

The Saudis are a disgusting regime. But one our government, royal family,  the entire sport of horse racing and thousands of UK expat workers absolutely adore. Why should you as a fan  have to play the martyr? 

 

If anything,.it's up to.opposing fans to shine an inconvenient light on  body chopping, female oppression etc. It may well embarrass the regime into a more liberal outlook 

 

Btw, we have owners that supposedly made billions from flogging toblerones at Bangkok Airport. Individually our owners are a lovely family. But the money wreaks. And our fans have in every sense bowed down to a Thai royal family with dubious human rights record. So we as a fanbase aren't in any place to preach 

 

 

[gw_leics772]

16 hours ago, Dan LCFC said:

Looking forward to this now. First half of the season was tough going. Felt for large parts we were sleepwalking into oblivion to be honest but do now feel we're past the worst of the madness and we're serious again. So I'm sure it's a resounding defeat here to get me right back in September mode!

Yeah, all that and now the flags. 🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳

[gw_leics772]

2 hours ago, CosbehFox said:

That’s not Bruno Guimaraes honours, that’s Aleksander Isak’s. 
 

Guimaraes though did win the Copa da Brazil 

Hahaha ha 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I've had a ****ing mare. (Point still stands🤣)

[gw_leics772]

1 hour ago, TJQuik said:

Sorry but this justification doesn't cut it for me. If it happens to Leicester I'll simply stop supporting.

I won't, 

[whoareyaaa]

The big 6 usually start to perform come this end of the season so it will be a massive task for Newcastle to maintain there position, we was in the top 4 twice and fell out so I don't know why people think they are going to win the league all of a sudden

[sacreblueits442]

15 hours ago, SkidsFox said:

I hope he stays many more seasons at Leicester, but I can see why another club would be reticent about blowing big bucks on a player who potentially has injury issues. They may have seen what has happened to the last few Chelsea purchases from Leicester.

...he has curtailed his over exaggerated follow through on his corners, has done more conditioning and seems a lot more robust on the pitch!!!

  Not sure there is much to worry about regarding injuries being picked up.