Will Alves

[coolhandfox]

Doesn't start tonight @Ric Flair we break into the training ground and do a dirty protest.

 

Free Willy! 

 

Edited 24 September 2024 by coolhandfox

[Ric Flair]

19 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

Doesn't start tonight @Ric Flair we break into the training ground and do a dirty protest.

 

Free Willy! 

 

What a film that is by the way 

[Lambert09]

gets a cameo if we are 3 up otherwise he’s not playing. This lad had more development recovering from his ACL 

[davieG]

I’m glad he’s not brought Alves on to this shower of shit. Would be insulting. 

[trabuch]

Honestly - get out lad. Just leave.

[Trav Le Bleu]

Should be named Won't Alves.

[honeybradger]

He's an idiot for signing that contract, especially after not getting a sniff in pre season.

 

He's the sort of player who we wont value whilst we have him but after a season or two in a lower/foreign league he would be too good to consider joining us, like Calvin Bassey or Matt O'Riley for Fulham.

[An Away Move]

I’m beginning to think Alves needs to leave to further his career. He’s learnt he can’t trust those at the club entrusted with his development. Made to feel very much part of the first team pre-season, quite possibly turning loan moves down as a result only to be effectively binned as soon as he signed his extension. The message to the academy is loud and clear. You can be as skilled and promising as you like, but we’ll start 30+ year old journeymen in front of you and develop other club’s talent ahead of you. 
We need a new DoF as the academy and first team are like right and left hands on different bodies. Let’s not even go into how financially sensible it would be to develop our own from a selling perspective if ANY promise is shown via first team chances. 

[5waller5]

6 minutes ago, An Away Move said:

I’m beginning to think Alves needs to leave to further his career. He’s learnt he can’t trust those at the club entrusted with his development. Made to feel very much part of the first team pre-season, quite possibly turning loan moves down as a result only to be effectively binned as soon as he signed his extension. The message to the academy is loud and clear. You can be as skilled and promising as you like, but we’ll start 30+ year old journeymen in front of you and develop other club’s talent ahead of you. 
We need a new DoF as the academy and first team are like right and left hands on different bodies. Let’s not even go into how financially sensible it would be to develop our own from a selling perspective if ANY promise is shown via first team chances. 

For me, this is another damning indictment of our former academy coach, former academy Director, current and incredibly weak DOF. 
 

Cooper, under a real DOF committed to youth development, would be under no illusions; You are expected to show a route into the first team for our best academy prospects. Ie. Play some of them in the cup!

[James_lcfc]

Bit concerning he can't even get 10 minutes against a League 2 team.

 

Can't be impressing in training very much.

[Noahfence]

Soumare getting 90 minutes and Alves getting 0 is sickening really. A player who doesn’t want to be here & just a waste of a shirt over a talented youngster the club have produced. 
 

Im not saying he should be featuring in the Prem every week but if you can’t give him minutes against a league 2 side in the cup when can you? 

[studentofthegame]

1 hour ago, James_lcfc said:

Bit concerning he can't even get 10 minutes against a League 2 team.

 

Can't be impressing in training very much.

To be fair, he could be Ronaldinho in training and Cooper would still play the old boys instead, nothing he has done has indicated he has any desire to give any youngsters a chance

[An Away Move]

1 hour ago, 5waller5 said:

For me, this is another damning indictment of our former academy coach, former academy Director, current and incredibly weak DOF. 
 

Cooper, under a real DOF committed to youth development, would be under no illusions; You are expected to show a route into the first team for our best academy prospects. Ie. Play some of them in the cup!

It truly beggars belief this isn't the case.

[An Away Move]

1 minute ago, studentofthegame said:

To be fair, he could be Ronaldinho in training and Cooper would still play the old boys instead, nothing he has done has indicated he has any desire to give any youngsters a chance

It's infuriating! God knows how Alves feels about it.

[Gamble92]

7 minutes ago, studentofthegame said:

To be fair, he could be Ronaldinho in training and Cooper would still play the old boys instead, nothing he has done has indicated he has any desire to give any youngsters a chance

You'd think he was Ronaldinho if you just read Foxestalk 

[An Away Move]

1 hour ago, James_lcfc said:

Bit concerning he can't even get 10 minutes against a League 2 team.

 

Can't be impressing in training very much.

Bollocks. He showed enough in the first cup game to at least get some minutes against Walsall. 

[Ric Flair]

I tell you what's galling. Aston Villa.

 

From 2014-2022 we were head and shoulders ahead of them and the rest of the midlands. Behind the scenes this will have given us an advantage in regard to our academy too but I know Villa spent a lot of time, effort and resources to improve their academy a few years back.

 

Anyway, fast forward to now and look at the respective teams and squads put out last night. Theirs is littered with academy players being given a chance, ours on the face of it might not look too shabby with Thomas and Choudhury starting and Iversen, Alves, McAteer and Golding on the bench but delve in to it and it feels a drop off under this regime compared to what we'd have seen under Rodgers or Enzo.

 

I won't even mention how they've replaced us as the best of the rest whilst we're eating out of bins inside 3 seasons but here we are.

[ousefox]

1 minute ago, Ric Flair said:

I tell you what's galling. Aston Villa.

 

From 2014-2022 we were head and shoulders ahead of them and the rest of the midlands. Behind the scenes this will have given us an advantage in regard to our academy too but I know Villa spent a lot of time, effort and resources to improve their academy a few years back.

 

Anyway, fast forward to now and look at the respective teams and squads put out last night. Theirs is littered with academy players being given a chance, ours on the face of it might not look too shabby with Thomas and Choudhury starting and Iversen, Alves, McAteer and Golding on the bench but delve in to it and it feels a drop off under this regime compared to what we'd have seen under Rodgers or Enzo.

 

I won't even mention how they've replaced us as the best of the rest whilst we're eating out of bins inside 3 seasons but here we are.

It's galling that we didn't sack Rodgers and bring in Emery when we could have. What could have been eh?

[Ric Flair]

10 minutes ago, ousefox said:

It's galling that we didn't sack Rodgers and bring in Emery when we could have. What could have been eh?

Yeah 100%

[Greg2607]

20 minutes ago, ousefox said:

It's galling that we didn't sack Rodgers and bring in Emery when we could have. What could have been eh?

except when you look back, the majority of posters on here said Emery wasn't good enough for us at the time. 

[honeybradger]

44 minutes ago, Greg2607 said:

except when you look back, the majority of posters on here said Emery wasn't good enough for us at the time. 

Those are the same posters that backed Rodgers to the end and wouldnt have it that he wasnt the best manager outside the top 6. Anyone with sense looked at Emery's time with Sevilla and knew he was a good manager.

[James_lcfc]

1 hour ago, An Away Move said:

Bollocks. He showed enough in the first cup game to at least get some minutes against Walsall. 

Coops asked me to send you this and to tell you to pipe down.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[An Away Move]

35 minutes ago, James_lcfc said:

Coops asked me to send you this and to tell you to pipe down.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well you have clearly won the argument posting that. EXPERIENCE trumps all. Thank **** you weren’t in charge of Man Utd when a 17 year old Giggs was showing promise. 

[An Away Move]

37 minutes ago, James_lcfc said:

Coops asked me to send you this and to tell you to pipe down.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

By that way - how did you rate his performance against lowly Walsall?

[urban.spaceman]

We're going to squander his potential aren't we?