Tottenham (H)..up next.

[kingkisnorbo]

13 minutes ago, lcfcbluearmy said:

That's not what I said... 

 

They were a very successful team 30 or 40 years ago that will always be there. However they haven't won anything in 30 years they are not currently a successful team. 

 

We have had a very successful 7 - 8 years. If we don't win anything in the next ten we won't be successful anymore. 

 

It dosent erase what we did in the past but you can't live off past glories forever

Total rubbish I'm afraid. Proper LadBible, Paddy Power logic. 

[Voll Blau]

2 minutes ago, Glorious Leicester Fan said:

 There’s too many variables involved in winning the FA cup. The number of top league a club has own is arguably a better measurement. Huddersfield are therefore arguably a bigger club. 

So that leaves us with just the one major honour by that metric.

 

Have a word.

[Foxdiamond]

2 minutes ago, Glorious Leicester Fan said:

 There’s too many variables involved in winning the FA cup. The number of top league a club has own is arguably a better measurement. Huddersfield are therefore arguably a bigger club. 

The number of years in top flight are also a measure. First non league club to win cup, first British side to win a European trophy, first club to do double in 20th century. Actually to think we managed to be competitive against big clubs reflects well on us

[Xen]

Not necessarily what I would do, but I wouldn't be surprised to see Rodgers pick Amartey to start this one. Souttar had an injury and only started last week because Amartey was ill, so he might want to manage that carefully. Especially with Tottenham's speed of attack, Amartey might have some merit... would expect to see Souttar at some point at least though. 

 

Midfield is a tricky one to pick though. Youri/KDH behind Maddison puts a lot of pressure on the CBs so I'd be tempted to drop one of them and go with a specialist DM behind 2 CMs. Not sure Mendy is good enough to justify making the change though, and Ndidi is horribly out of form - but a return to being a 'true' DM might help him now we've got a better balance to the side. But then who to drop... Maddison has to play, KDH brings the energy but Youri is technically better... I'd be tempted to start with Ndidi/KDH/Maddison and bring on Youri at the hour mark to do his thing against tired legs.

 

Rest of the side stays the same from Villa, with some welcome returns to the bench to hopefully get some minutes.

[Glorious Leicester Fan]

Just now, Voll Blau said:

So that leaves us with just the one major honour by that metric.

 

Have a word.

if you don’t like the model, create your own. 
 What would your criteria be? For me, winning the top league trumps winning the FA Cup and a lesser European cup. I’m not saying they don’t matter, but if you creating an objective hierarchy, a cup win is less significant.  
 

obviously you could create an hierarchy based on a different criteria. Fan base and turnover for example.
 

 

[Glorious Leicester Fan]

6 minutes ago, Foxdiamond said:

The number of years in top flight are also a measure. First non league club to win cup, first British side to win a European trophy, first club to do double in 20th century. Actually to think we managed to be competitive against big clubs reflects well on us

Agree. In regards to the number of years in top flight, Spurs are 10th. Below Newcastle, Sunderland and Everton. To date, they have spent 2 more years than West Brom. 

[Haywood_6]

Obviously a very tricky game but we're going into it with a bit of optimism. After falling to pieces at home to them last season and then getting thumped 6-2. We definitely owe them one so I hope we turn up. It's about time we got a win over the so called 'Big 6' 

[Foxdiamond]

4 minutes ago, Glorious Leicester Fan said:

Agree. In regards to the number of years in top flight, Spurs are 10th. Below Newcastle, Sunderland and Everton. To date, they have spent 2 more years than West Brom. 

All the clubs mentioned have proud history too. I love our club but happy to note others honours board however long ago. Some people say that Newcastle have not won anything since 1955 but discount or forget the Fairs Cup win in 1969.

[lcfcbluearmy]

34 minutes ago, Foxdiamond said:

League Cup wins in 1999 and 2008. I don't want to forget our wins in 1997 and 2000 for comparison 

Where did I say we should forget the past? Did you actually read what I wrote

[Voll Blau]

14 minutes ago, Glorious Leicester Fan said:

if you don’t like the model, create your own. 
 What would your criteria be? For me, winning the top league trumps winning the FA Cup and a lesser European cup. I’m not saying they don’t matter, but if you creating an objective hierarchy, a cup win is less significant.  
 

obviously you could create an hierarchy based on a different criteria. Fan base and turnover for example.
 

 

Less significant, yes (though not by much in my estimation). But you're arguing Cup wins should be discounted entirely - putting us behind the likes of Preston, Portsmouth and Burnley in the "who's a bigger club" stakes.

 

FA Cups are not easy things to win - it took us nearly 140 years to win our first one!

[lcfcbluearmy]

27 minutes ago, kingkisnorbo said:

Total rubbish I'm afraid. Proper LadBible, Paddy Power logic. 

It's like saying England are a successful team because we won the world Cup in 1966. We were successful then but haven't been since I don't understand your point here

[Foxdiamond]

18 minutes ago, Glorious Leicester Fan said:

if you don’t like the model, create your own. 
 What would your criteria be? For me, winning the top league trumps winning the FA Cup and a lesser European cup. I’m not saying they don’t matter, but if you creating an objective hierarchy, a cup win is less significant.  
 

obviously you could create an hierarchy based on a different criteria. Fan base and turnover for example.
 

 

Not so long ago the FA Cup was held in more esteem than winning the league. Daft I know but a fact when cup final was just about the only game on tv.

[lcfcbluearmy]

30 minutes ago, kingkisnorbo said:

Total rubbish I'm afraid. Proper LadBible, Paddy Power logic. 

If you genuinely can't admit that we have been more successful than Tottenham over the last decade I'm afraid your the one who is talking rubbish

[Foxdiamond]

2 minutes ago, lcfcbluearmy said:

Where did I say we should forget the past? Did you actually read what I wrote

But I think we should note all the major honours won by clubs whenever won. The cups I quoted were won within the last 30 years which I believe you used as a yardstick 

[Buzzell]

Unchanged from the Villa squad and go for it as long as everybody is fit.

[kingkisnorbo]

7 minutes ago, lcfcbluearmy said:

If you genuinely can't admit that we have been more successful than Tottenham over the last decade I'm afraid your the one who is talking rubbish

At no point have I suggested otherwise. Your insinuating that because they have no real recent success that their history prior is somehow worthless. I responded to a post that said they had never won anything of any significance (total balderdash) and you said nothing in the last 30 years. You never made it clear that your point was that it was in comparison to us. You simply stated "yeah but not in the last 30 years" which doesn't make any sense. Success is success. 

[AKCJ]

Not sure why Leicester fans hate Spurs so much tbh.

[HybridFox]

Don't need to change anything for this but seems too good to be true for Brendan not to tinker at all 

Edited 10 February 2023 by TK95

[foxfanazer]

4 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

Not sure why Leicester fans hate Spurs so much tbh.

I don't hate them, they're the gift that keeps on giving 

[CrazyKopCorner]

I'd give a left b@llock tio beat these barstewards 

 

COYB

[Foxdiamond]

Just now, foxfanazer said:

I don't hate them, they're the gift that keeps on giving 

Recent results against them suggests the reverse is true 

[AKCJ]

1 minute ago, foxfanazer said:

I don't hate them, they're the gift that keeps on giving 

Are they? They dick us every season these days.

[Glorious Leicester Fan]

27 minutes ago, Foxdiamond said:

All the clubs mentioned have proud history too. I love our club but happy to note others honours board however long ago. Some people say that Newcastle have not won anything since 1955 but discount or forget the Fairs Cup win in 1969.

Again, I totally agree. There are some clubs who are big, but seem to be ignored. Sunderland for example. My only issue with Spurs is that there is a tendency to place them in the elite ranks, which I don’t think is necessarily justified. This is obviously not negating their achievements.

[Dahnsouff]

1 minute ago, Glorious Leicester Fan said:

Again, I totally agree. There are some clubs who are big, but seem to be ignored. Sunderland for example. My only issue with Spurs is that there is a tendency to place them in the elite ranks, which I don’t think is necessarily justified. This is obviously not negating their achievements.

Spurs position amongst the so called elite is due to marketing brand success rather than on field success

[kingkisnorbo]

2 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

Spurs position amongst the so called elite is due to marketing brand success rather than on field success

They are technically the sixth most successful team by honours in the country, if we're saying it in terms of the 'big six'. I do agree on the financial side too. 

Edited 10 February 2023 by kingkisnorbo