Brendanites gather here

[joachim1965]

3 hours ago, Tuna said:

Have any Brendanites outed themselves yet?

Brendan in

[The Year Of The Fox]

5 hours ago, Unabomber said:

Think @The Year Of The Foxlikes him

I’m ‘Rodgers in’ because be careful what you wish for 

[VLC86]

Right folks, now they have all gathered here let’s lock the doors and pour petrol through the letter box.

[FoxyJim1987]

5 hours ago, FoxTimmy2 said:

So starting Ward in 25 consecutive games isn’t his fault? The statistically and visibly worst keeper in the premier league (and Europe).

The alternative (Iversen) has been in one testing game ( Blackburn) and messed up for the first goal and proved he's no better than ward. Not having funds for transfers was not Rodgers fault.

[FoxyJim1987]

5 hours ago, Voll Blau said:

Blackburn dumped us out of the FA Cup the other day.

Still won it though didn't he? Something no other manager in our history managed.

[Foxxed]

1 minute ago, FoxyJim1987 said:

The alternative (Iversen) has been in one testing game ( Blackburn) and messed up for the first goal and proved he's no better than ward. Not having funds for transfers was not Rodgers fault.

So all the goals we conceded at the start of the season weren't enough to drop Ward, and neither is being a consistently poor keeper?

 

Yet a fresh, new keeper making a mistake a mistake in his first game is reason to never give Iversen another chance?

 

It's just yet another example of Rodgers' stubbornness damaging the team and club.

 

[ARTY_FOX]

8 minutes ago, FoxyJim1987 said:

Still won it though didn't he? Something no other manager in our history managed.

Should we have let Claudio relegate us because no manager in our history had won the top division? 

Edited 5 March 2023 by ARTY_FOX

[Koke]

You're all wrong and entitled. He brought us FA Cup glory, twice 5th place finish. We'veplayed the greatest football this club has ever seen . We should be eternally grateful that a club like ours even have a manager of the calibre of Rodgers. Honestly even if we go down he should have the chance to get us back up. He's earned that. He's a legend. 

[FoxyJim1987]

5 hours ago, Matt said:

Listen, before I start, this isn't me 'jumping on you', i'm trying have a discussion and understand your points, trying to respect your opinions whilst strongly disagreeing with them.

 

Who signed Praet and Soumare?

 

Do you not see he's signed more shit and heavily outweighs the good? What makes you comfortable with him overseeing a crucial rebuild?

 

He's been here 4 years, enough time and chances to call it 'his' team, why are we still playing in a way that doesn't suit the players? Why is the starting 11 still largely made up of players that were here before him (7 starting, 6 on the bench yesterday) when he's spent well over £220m+? On what?!

 

We only have to look at the signings of Souttar, Kristiansen and Tete (Who are club signings imo). Souttar a no nonsense defender, solid, Kristiansen who's been broke already and Tete who's flair looks to have already have beenreigned in and coached out of him.

 

Based on the evidence I don't see how you can confidently claim "We wouldn't be in this position" if he'd "Had his rebuild".

 

I don't subscribe to rebuilds, does a rebuild not suggest somethings gone wrong? You usually see rebuilds when a new manager comes in picking up the pieces (Which is undoubtedly where we're going to find ourselves), not under the same managers reign, usually you replace and evolve but should never need a rebuild.

 

Ok cool, I respect a civil debate and I will politely disagree with your points. Who knows who wanted Soumare and Praet? Is Rodgers signing players? Who knows. It is abundantly clear certain players need to look hard and long at their own performance. There has been some alarming business decisions in the last few years. Seagrave is great but we did we really need those facilities at the detriment of the playing side? Daka, Soumare, Vestergaard, Bertrand that summer and last summer have crippled us badly. We signed rubbish and lost Fofana and Kasper, not really replacing them at all. I feel some anger and fingers need pointing at players and the board not just Rodgers. We wouldn't be anywhere near this position if we had signed a keeper, and the likes of Souttar in the summer and got rid of the shit players. 

 

Saying Tete has had his flair coached out of him is unfair. He is Brazilian so everyone came to the conclusion he was Neymar reborn. In reality I tried to tell people he wouldn't be joining Leicester on loan if he was that good, and so far he's proved why he is here and not a top club. Hes ok, he's got a trick, but he's no better than Perez was in honesty.

 

You've come to the conclusion VK, Souttar are club signings to back your own argument, but Praet and Soumare must have been Rodgers signings because they're crap?? 

[Matt]

15 minutes ago, FoxyJim1987 said:

Ok cool, I respect a civil debate and I will politely disagree with your points. Who knows who wanted Soumare and Praet? Is Rodgers signing players? Who knows. It is abundantly clear certain players need to look hard and long at their own performance. There has been some alarming business decisions in the last few years. Seagrave is great but we did we really need those facilities at the detriment of the playing side? Daka, Soumare, Vestergaard, Bertrand that summer and last summer have crippled us badly. We signed rubbish and lost Fofana and Kasper, not really replacing them at all. I feel some anger and fingers need pointing at players and the board not just Rodgers. We wouldn't be anywhere near this position if we had signed a keeper, and the likes of Souttar in the summer and got rid of the shit players. 

 

Saying Tete has had his flair coached out of him is unfair. He is Brazilian so everyone came to the conclusion he was Neymar reborn. In reality I tried to tell people he wouldn't be joining Leicester on loan if he was that good, and so far he's proved why he is here and not a top club. Hes ok, he's got a trick, but he's no better than Perez was in honesty.

 

You've come to the conclusion VK, Souttar are club signings to back your own argument, but Praet and Soumare must have been Rodgers signings because they're crap?? 

Not at all.

 

I came to that conclusion by the club allowing Congerton to leave and it being widely reported the club bought their own choice of head of recruitment, Martyn Glover in, the belief of the club strangling back control of recruitment as opposed to Rodgers have too much say when he came here, demanding he bought his own staff with him, add to the fact the quotes emerging from Vestergaard confirming he was very much Rodgers decision and signing adds fuel to the signings throughout that period.

 

For the record I don't think Praet is crap, is he good enough? Nullified, ineffective in Rodgers' system, maybe? That's another debate, but he's not crap.

 

On the Seagrave point, 'Do we really need those facilities', well the belief is to attract the type of player we should be looking at, yes, as Rodgers said when we moved there, "there will be no excuses", unfortunately that's all we seem to hear from him.

 

Edited 5 March 2023 by Matt

[Lcfcman2010]

I see a lot on many threads around the "rebuild" and what Brendan said about it at the beginning of the season/pre. 

 

Giving the fact that he said it, isn't that a bit of him saying "sh*t, wrong signings I need to rectify this" whether it's him signing, rudkin, top no one knows what's going on but he openly wanted to get rid. 

 

Now, here comes top saying hang on Brendan we haven't got the funds to do that. We can't offload and try to buy as FFP is going to screw us. Fvck! So Brendan and the team are stuck with their bad judgement signings. 

 

Bring on January, "Top we need a couple of players as we are in free fall. Defence is a must!" We go do it, but still can't offload the shite as we wouldn't have no back up. 

 

I very much want to believe that a conversation has happened between top and Co and Brendan along the lines of just don't get us relegated, we can't afford to sack you, we have had to sort finances out you can have a war chest next season and you can off the shite for free if you want to. 

 

As people have pointed out, fa cup, community shield, Europe tours and an 8th. Something has gone amiss since the back end of last season. It's all down to the shite signings and I believe that "rebuild" is his way of saying they're shite and we fvcked up. 

 

I will always be a fan of Brendan as he delivered us the FA Cup. What I'm not a fan of is this, "I didn't get my own way" attitude and the lack of fuchs given in his demeanor. 

 

 

[Joe90lcfc]

I’m guessing it’s the same weirdo’s who go and see Leicester tigers 🤮🤮🤮

[Max Power]

32 minutes ago, FoxyJim1987 said:

Still won it though didn't he? Something no other manager in our history managed.

Out of interest when does it become irrelevant? Relegation? Failure to get promoted next season? 

[joachim1965]

37 minutes ago, Koke said:

You're all wrong and entitled. He brought us FA Cup glory, twice 5th place finish. We'veplayed the greatest football this club has ever seen . We should be eternally grateful that a club like ours even have a manager of the calibre of Rodgers. Honestly even if we go down he should have the chance to get us back up. He's earned that. He's a legend. 

Fvcking hell, you had me going for a minute there.

[Winstonthedog]

I have to go to sleep early on a Saturday night .... no point in watching match of the day and piling on the agony  ..... thanks Brendan 

[LCFCJohn]

1 hour ago, Matt said:

Not at all.

 

I came to that conclusion by the club allowing Congerton to leave and it being widely reported the club bought their own choice of head of recruitment, Martyn Glover in, the belief of the club strangling back control of recruitment as opposed to Rodgers have too much say when he came here, demanding he bought his own staff with him, add to the fact the quotes emerging from Vestergaard confirming he was very much Rodgers decision and signing adds fuel to the signings throughout that period.

 

For the record I don't think Praet is crap, is he good enough? Nullified, ineffective in Rodgers' system, maybe? That's another debate, but he's not crap.

 

On the Seagrave point, 'Do we really need those facilities', well the belief is to attract the type of player we should be looking at, yes, as Rodgers said when we moved there, "there will be no excuses", unfortunately that's all we seem to hear from him.

 

It’s amazing how many people (when it comes to discussion on transfers) completely refuse to accept the fact that Congerton is Rodgers guy who has worked with him before and followed him to the club. 
 

They probably think it’s a coincidence that Chris Davies and Kolo Toure happened to end up here after being at Celtic previously as well!

[LCFCJohn]

1 hour ago, Max Power said:

Out of interest when does it become irrelevant? Relegation? Failure to get promoted next season? 

It infuriates me these arguments. The league win and FA cup win are now confined to the history books.
 

People who use that argument are just living in the past and are happy to watch the club call into obscurity.
 

Everything about the club at the minute from owner, manager, players and a large section of fans just make me embarrassed to support us.  

[Matt]

3 minutes ago, LCFCJohn said:

It infuriates me these arguments. The league win and FA cup win are now confined to the history books.
 

People who use that argument are just living in the past and are happy to watch the club call into obscurity.
 

Everything about the club at the minute from owner, manager, players and a large section of fans just make me embarrassed to support us.  

They've kinda caught up with time moving on from justifying it by saying "We were in League One".

 

Edited 5 March 2023 by Matt

[Collibosher70]

[Dahnsouff]

45 minutes ago, LCFCJohn said:

It infuriates me these arguments. The league win and FA cup win are now confined to the history books.
 

People who use that argument are just living in the past and are happy to watch the club call into obscurity.
 

Everything about the club at the minute from owner, manager, players and a large section of fans just make me embarrassed to support us.  

This level of instant gratification demand is absolutely sickening, and on another note, NOBODY puts our league win in the rear view mirror, NOBODY.

 

If you never want to remember, why bother watching?

[Matt]

Anyway, forget 'rebuild' regarding incoming/outgoings for one moment, once he found out he wasn't getting any new players in the summer the wording shifted to a 'rebuild of culture and mentality' - what happened to that?

 

He ruined our 'culture' and everything we were about in the first place and we're more mentally fragile now.

 

Far from siege mentality created.

 

Edited 5 March 2023 by Matt

[Dahnsouff]

Not often I find myself relating to @Matts posts, but yes, our mentality is busted. Sure it’s mainly down to Rodgers, he is not angry enough for me, but also players meekly mentally dissolving is a most unedifying sight, maybe some are just ageing, but some seem to see no plan or no reasons to try.

[LCFCJohn]

4 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

This level of instant gratification demand is absolutely sickening, and on another note, NOBODY puts our league win in the rear view mirror, NOBODY.

 

If you never want to remember, why bother watching?

Not really sure what you’re going on about with instant gratification? But is it really going to help us when we’re in the Championship next season?

 

Athletes who are winner, win and go again and thrive off that. Those that class their work as done because they won something once done win again, simple.

 

Im sure that’ll be twisted as I expect us to win the league every year or some shit like that. It maybe isn’t the best analogy but my point is by living in the past and saying what we are currently seeing is ok because we won stuff before isn’t exactly helping now is it?

[Dahnsouff]

1 minute ago, LCFCJohn said:

Not really sure what you’re going on about with instant gratification? But is it really going to help us when we’re in the Championship next season?

 

Athletes who are winner, win and go again and thrive off that. Those that class their work as done because they won something once done win again, simple.

 

Im sure that’ll be twisted as I expect us to win the league every year or some shit like that. It maybe isn’t the best analogy but my point is by living in the past and saying what we are currently seeing is ok because we won stuff before isn’t exactly helping now is it?

It was in response to ‘it’s in the past’ outlook, it’s all in the past, no Leicester fan should dismiss our past so readily. But hey that’s just my opinion. Yes it’s does not help now I agree, it was only the past is done and it irrelevant outlook I took issue with.

[blueharmie]

I think Brendan can turn this around