FoxTimmy2 Posted 5 March 2023 Posted 5 March 2023 3 minutes ago, FoxyJim1987 said: Spot on. I honestly don't think it's all his fault at all, I think about 75% is due to the summer fiasco and several players playing like cvnts regularly (Barnes I'm looking at you) Rodgers wanted Soumare, Praet, Soyuncu probably a few others out in the summer and wanted a rebuild. He was told we had no money for this, so best to keep what we had got. Praet and Soumare in particular were frozen out of pre season then suddenly joined up with the squad when the season began. If Rodgers had had his rebuild and got 5 or 6 out and replaced the shite we wouldn't be in this position. Fofana being a cvnt and being sold late on didn't help either. I'm not saying that his selections and tactics sometimes are wrong, but he cannot be blamed for Barnes missing two sitters at Forest, or Kelechi missing yesterday. Sadly his time is up either now or at the end of season, and in a few years when we look back I expect people to say, 5th, 5th, 8th, Fa cup, community shield, that was pretty darn successful. If the next manager comes in and achieves half that he will have done ok. So starting Ward in 25 consecutive games isn’t his fault? The statistically and visibly worst keeper in the premier league (and Europe). 1
Vlad the Fox Posted 5 March 2023 Posted 5 March 2023 The only reasons I can think is that they’ve looked at alternatives and either can’t get anyone in any good or better or they felt they hadn’t backed him so gave him a bit of leeway, however now they have backed him the rope is pretty short and maybe the end is nigh.
Voll Blau Posted 5 March 2023 Posted 5 March 2023 16 minutes ago, FoxyJim1987 said: Yeah don't worry mate that's the mentality on here. When we get some arse in charge next who won't win the FA cup or get us in Europe will he be well liked or not? Maybe, it's hard to tell with our fan base. Blackburn dumped us out of the FA Cup the other day. 2
Nick Posted 5 March 2023 Posted 5 March 2023 I think Brendan has enough in what’s left in his locker to keep us up. I’ve always thought that. I’m mostly in agreement with the obvious issues pointed out in every thread in the forum. For me, the problem we have is that if Maddison doesn’t play we don’t create anything like the chances we require to stay up. We created enough yesterday to win the game comfortably but simply we didn’t have a player that could finish on the day. The longer term problem for me is what happens when we lose Madders and to an extent Youri. Madders yesterday was the best player on the field by a country mile - simply fantastic to watch. If Brendan did stay on, I’m not sure he’s the man to build a new squad with average 30million and less valued players… especially having lost his key players and the heads of what he has left being down on the floor. Im not full of hate for Rogers like many. (I wanted Puel gone however more than anyone so understand and have experienced the strength of view). I wouldn’t be anti Rogers going at all if we have a plan to bring a new manager in - but that would be the right manager with a known and budgeted plan for what they have to spend and if we want to succeed in this league and have anything like top 8 aspirations again then we need to both spend and get a manager in to raise the performances of the few decent starters we do have left in the squad. 1
Popular Post Matt Posted 5 March 2023 Popular Post Posted 5 March 2023 (edited) 31 minutes ago, FoxyJim1987 said: Spot on. I honestly don't think it's all his fault at all, I think about 75% is due to the summer fiasco and several players playing like cvnts regularly (Barnes I'm looking at you) Rodgers wanted Soumare, Praet, Soyuncu probably a few others out in the summer and wanted a rebuild. He was told we had no money for this, so best to keep what we had got. Praet and Soumare in particular were frozen out of pre season then suddenly joined up with the squad when the season began. If Rodgers had had his rebuild and got 5 or 6 out and replaced the shite we wouldn't be in this position. Fofana being a cvnt and being sold late on didn't help either. I'm not saying that his selections and tactics sometimes are wrong, but he cannot be blamed for Barnes missing two sitters at Forest, or Kelechi missing yesterday. Sadly his time is up either now or at the end of season, and in a few years when we look back I expect people to say, 5th, 5th, 8th, Fa cup, community shield, that was pretty darn successful. If the next manager comes in and achieves half that he will have done ok. Listen, before I start, this isn't me 'jumping on you', i'm trying have a discussion and understand your points, trying to respect your opinions whilst strongly disagreeing with them. Who signed Praet and Soumare? Do you not see he's signed more shit and heavily outweighs the good? What makes you comfortable with him overseeing a crucial rebuild? He's been here 4 years, enough time and chances to call it 'his' team, why are we still playing in a way that doesn't suit the players? Why is the starting 11 still largely made up of players that were here before him (7 starting, 6 on the bench yesterday) when he's spent well over £220m+? On what?! We only have to look at the signings of Souttar, Kristiansen and Tete (Who are club signings imo). Souttar a no nonsense defender, solid, Kristiansen who's been broke already and Tete who's flair looks to have already have beenreigned in and coached out of him. Based on the evidence I don't see how you can confidently claim "We wouldn't be in this position" if he'd "Had his rebuild". I don't subscribe to rebuilds, does a rebuild not suggest somethings gone wrong? You usually see rebuilds when a new manager comes in picking up the pieces (Which is undoubtedly where we're going to find ourselves), not under the same managers reign, usually you replace and evolve but should never need a rebuild. Edited 5 March 2023 by Matt 8 3 1
adam Posted 5 March 2023 Posted 5 March 2023 You only have to look of those irritating lcfc groups on Facebook. If you can't name a replacement manager you got slagged off for calling for his sacking. Infuriating. 1
Itsthejoeker Posted 5 March 2023 Posted 5 March 2023 Expecting to see the bloke from yesterdays away end mouthing off at everyone who changed for Brendan out in here.
fuchsntf Posted 5 March 2023 Posted 5 March 2023 (edited) I want him gone,simply and only on performances delivered.. No character assassination,no made up BS lies,No incompetent wafflings, because some can't control their frustration, and no bullying I know better attitude... One major point is all fans are clueless to off-field talks & promises,between board & management, and then between Rodgers & his team. Me personally I really couldn't care what words have been exchanged, he has to go ,again because he can't get the team to turn the tide ,and put in at least basic performances.. Among yesterday's bottom of table of frustrating mistakes and misunderstandings,we did produce some decent football to create space & chances,but no end product... That obviously,rightly makes "our" game look very poor.. BUT outside 2 games,that's been our problem & Rodgers & coaches can't get on top of it...So can we please have a new manager/coach that will Edited 5 March 2023 by fuchsntf 3
fuchsntf Posted 5 March 2023 Posted 5 March 2023 8 hours ago, hejammy said: What about pizza? (asking for a friend ) & Chicken legs..also asking for a friend and on behalf of KFC,when the Chateau orders chicken..
Lesterlad Posted 5 March 2023 Posted 5 March 2023 49 minutes ago, FoxyJim1987 said: Spot on. I honestly don't think it's all his fault at all, I think about 75% is due to the summer fiasco and several players playing like cvnts regularly (Barnes I'm looking at you) Rodgers wanted Soumare, Praet, Soyuncu probably a few others out in the summer and wanted a rebuild. He was told we had no money for this, so best to keep what we had got. Praet and Soumare in particular were frozen out of pre season then suddenly joined up with the squad when the season began. If Rodgers had had his rebuild and got 5 or 6 out and replaced the shite we wouldn't be in this position. Fofana being a cvnt and being sold late on didn't help either. I'm not saying that his selections and tactics sometimes are wrong, but he cannot be blamed for Barnes missing two sitters at Forest, or Kelechi missing yesterday. Sadly his time is up either now or at the end of season, and in a few years when we look back I expect people to say, 5th, 5th, 8th, Fa cup, community shield, that was pretty darn successful. If the next manager comes in and achieves half that he will have done ok. You missed the relegation bit out
Brainy Posted 5 March 2023 Posted 5 March 2023 5 hours ago, marbles said: Yes, post here so you can be ridiculed and bullied by the same people who think bullying and ridiculing people IRL is bad. Yep. Weird, pointless thread. 1
Popular Post Vacamion Posted 5 March 2023 Popular Post Posted 5 March 2023 This thread is a witch hunt and a pile on and I think people should be better than that. Be tolerant enough to let people hold alternative views, even if you can't understand why they arrived at them. 13 2
hebangsthedrums Posted 5 March 2023 Posted 5 March 2023 59 minutes ago, Nick said: I think Brendan has enough in what’s left in his locker to keep us up. I’ve always thought that. I’m mostly in agreement with the obvious issues pointed out in every thread in the forum. I just genuinely don't understand how you/anyone can think that, when as someones just point out - 7 points in 10 post WC and not a shot on target vs the team bottom of the table? When is he going to get it out of his locker? 2
ARTY_FOX Posted 5 March 2023 Posted 5 March 2023 1 hour ago, Nick said: I think Brendan has enough in what’s left in his locker to keep us up. I’ve always thought that. I’m mostly in agreement with the obvious issues pointed out in every thread in the forum. For me, the problem we have is that if Maddison doesn’t play we don’t create anything like the chances we require to stay up. We created enough yesterday to win the game comfortably but simply we didn’t have a player that could finish on the day. The longer term problem for me is what happens when we lose Madders and to an extent Youri. Madders yesterday was the best player on the field by a country mile - simply fantastic to watch. If Brendan did stay on, I’m not sure he’s the man to build a new squad with average 30million and less valued players… especially having lost his key players and the heads of what he has left being down on the floor. Im not full of hate for Rogers like many. (I wanted Puel gone however more than anyone so understand and have experienced the strength of view). I wouldn’t be anti Rogers going at all if we have a plan to bring a new manager in - but that would be the right manager with a known and budgeted plan for what they have to spend and if we want to succeed in this league and have anything like top 8 aspirations again then we need to both spend and get a manager in to raise the performances of the few decent starters we do have left in the squad. What is it you see that makes you think he'll keep us up at the moment? The big worry for me is it just seems to be getting worse and worse
ARTY_FOX Posted 5 March 2023 Posted 5 March 2023 7 minutes ago, Vacamion said: This thread is a witch hunt and a pile on and I think people should be better than that. Be tolerant enough to let people hold alternative views, even if you can't understand why they arrived at them. But a respectful discussion can still be had. 1
Craig Posted 5 March 2023 Posted 5 March 2023 10 minutes ago, Vacamion said: This thread is a witch hunt and a pile on and I think people should be better than that. Be tolerant enough to let people hold alternative views, even if you can't understand why they arrived at them. Burn them!
FoxesWalk Posted 5 March 2023 Posted 5 March 2023 I just love that little clap he does when we are 2+ goals down 3
honeybradger Posted 5 March 2023 Posted 5 March 2023 Honestly with the number of times I and other posters on here (namely Matt) got called entitled and deluded for calling out some very valid flaws in Rodgers management I dont think Rodgers fans have a leg to stand on by making themselves out to be the victim on here. It's basic karma really, if you belittle other posters on here be ready to get it back your way when you get it wrong as well. If you're a respectful person and had approached the discussion on an intellectual level rather than a personal level in the first place then you wouldn't be bothered by a bit of sh*t flinging. 2 1 1
Popular Post Daggers Posted 5 March 2023 Popular Post Posted 5 March 2023 21 minutes ago, ARTY_FOX said: What is it you see that makes you think he'll keep us up at the moment? He’s a friend first and a boss second. Probably an entertainer third? 8
Claridge Posted 5 March 2023 Posted 5 March 2023 I think he has done well and we should give him next season 1
Happy Fox Posted 5 March 2023 Posted 5 March 2023 Just now, Claridge said: I think he has done well and we should give him next season Next season as the under 21’s manager seems about right.
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