The "do they mean us?" thread pt 4

[davieG]

[Trav Le Bleu]

"Men of darker skins."

 

Different times.

[suffolk fox]

55 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

"Men of darker skins."

 

Different times.

Strange times indeed this, is talking about the fa cup game in 1974, against Luton Town,  when Weller scored that brilliant individual goal and Eric Morecambe who was then the Luton Town Chairman said, that was the best performance from any team he had seen in his lifetime.

 

Irony, was, we didn't have one Black player in our team at all.

[davieG]

Championship8bit ·

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Leicester City are charging fans £47 to watch their League 1 fixture vs Burton Albion…

What on earth

 

Alan Robey

 ·No there charging a small section of the ground on the half way line (prime seats) that most of the other sections of the ground are £26 £31 £36 a ticket but guess socials media only pick out the higher ticket price to get reactions

[davieG]

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/14uWmMh4j2N/

[foxile5]

On 06/08/2026 at 09:38, davieG said:

Championship8bit ·

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Leicester City are charging fans £47 to watch their League 1 fixture vs Burton Albion…

What on earth

 

Alan Robey

 ·No there charging a small section of the ground on the half way line (prime seats) that most of the other sections of the ground are £26 £31 £36 a ticket but guess socials media only pick out the higher ticket price to get reactions

Ah that's okay then Alan. 

[demon_dog]

Question is am I lucky or not?

Last season after 30+ years I decided not to renew my ST.  As things stood it looked like I wouldn't bother going to see them again.

As things happened a disabled supporter was looking for someone to take them, I along with several others offered to take them. I was selected to do so after their first choice pulled out. I took them to every home game free of charge!

I'm glad it cost me nothing( apart from the fuel) as my instincts were correct, we were woeful.

I have been asked if I will take them this season.

Free ticket, free parking outside the ground, what would you do?

[davieG]

15 minutes ago, demon_dog said:

Question is am I lucky or not?

Last season after 30+ years I decided not to renew my ST.  As things stood it looked like I wouldn't bother going to see them again.

As things happened a disabled supporter was looking for someone to take them, I along with several others offered to take them. I was selected to do so after their first choice pulled out. I took them to every home game free of charge!

I'm glad it cost me nothing( apart from the fuel) as my instincts were correct, we were woeful.

I have been asked if I will take them this season.

Free ticket, free parking outside the ground, what would you do?

If the disabled person is enjoying going, maybe they just need a break from the difficulties of life and you have the time go you never know this might be a good season or at worse you can say 'I was there when LCFC finally hit rock bottom'.

[Free Falling Foxes]

26 minutes ago, demon_dog said:

Question is am I lucky or not?

Last season after 30+ years I decided not to renew my ST.  As things stood it looked like I wouldn't bother going to see them again.

As things happened a disabled supporter was looking for someone to take them, I along with several others offered to take them. I was selected to do so after their first choice pulled out. I took them to every home game free of charge!

I'm glad it cost me nothing( apart from the fuel) as my instincts were correct, we were woeful.

I have been asked if I will take them this season.

Free ticket, free parking outside the ground, what would you do?

I used to support a fella for a few seasons, who has since died. I then, along with some others, supported a group of 4 or 5 on match days though only for a couple if seasons. I have had two further offers to support individuals that I've declined.

The reason was not the on field performances but the commitment. They would need to go to every home match, including evening ones and I didn't wish to let anyone down so, on balance, I said I was no longer available.

 

[demon_dog]

I must admit it's quite a commitment taking them to every match, especially the night games. However as Davie says they do enjoy going.

Just hope that this season sees us playing with more commitment, although not really looking forward to tippy happy football!

[Vlad the Fox]

12 hours ago, demon_dog said:

Question is am I lucky or not?

Last season after 30+ years I decided not to renew my ST.  As things stood it looked like I wouldn't bother going to see them again.

As things happened a disabled supporter was looking for someone to take them, I along with several others offered to take them. I was selected to do so after their first choice pulled out. I took them to every home game free of charge!

I'm glad it cost me nothing( apart from the fuel) as my instincts were correct, we were woeful.

I have been asked if I will take them this season.

Free ticket, free parking outside the ground, what would you do?

I understand it’s a big commitment someone asked me last season but I wasn’t able to do it. But also think of the good you’re doing for the person. I still feel heartbroken for a poor old women I knew who’s helper decided to stop the year we won the premier league. She was so excited seeing it all unfold but would often look sad and say she wished she could still go. The footy was the highlight of her week.

[Trav Le Bleu]

14 hours ago, Free Falling Foxes said:

I used to support a fella for a few seasons, who has since died. I then, along with some others, supported a group of 4 or 5 on match days though only for a couple if seasons. I have had two further offers to support individuals that I've declined.

The reason was not the on field performances but the commitment. They would need to go to every home match, including evening ones and I didn't wish to let anyone down so, on balance, I said I was no longer available.

 

 

13 hours ago, demon_dog said:

I must admit it's quite a commitment taking them to every match, especially the night games. However as Davie says they do enjoy going.

Just hope that this season sees us playing with more commitment, although not really looking forward to tippy happy football!

 

2 hours ago, Vlad the Fox said:

I understand it’s a big commitment someone asked me last season but I wasn’t able to do it. But also think of the good you’re doing for the person. I still feel heartbroken for a poor old women I knew who’s helper decided to stop the year we won the premier league. She was so excited seeing it all unfold but would often look sad and say she wished she could still go. The footy was the highlight of her week.

Less commendable was an acquaintance if mine who's husband was a wheelchair user and ST holder many years ago. On one occasion he couldn't go, so she went to the game in her husbands wheelchair

 

During the game we scored and she leapt out of the wheelchair.

[HitchinFox]

13 hours ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

 

 

Less commendable was an acquaintance if mine who's husband was a wheelchair user and ST holder many years ago. On one occasion he couldn't go, so she went to the game in her husbands wheelchair

 

During the game we scored and she leapt out of the wheelchair.

Not sure which of these is the bigger miracle. 

 

[Lutterworth Fox]

On 09/08/2026 at 10:22, demon_dog said:

Question is am I lucky or not?

Last season after 30+ years I decided not to renew my ST.  As things stood it looked like I wouldn't bother going to see them again.

As things happened a disabled supporter was looking for someone to take them, I along with several others offered to take them. I was selected to do so after their first choice pulled out. I took them to every home game free of charge!

I'm glad it cost me nothing( apart from the fuel) as my instincts were correct, we were woeful.

I have been asked if I will take them this season.

Free ticket, free parking outside the ground, what would you do?

I'd rather poke myself in the eye with a sharp stick 

[Jobyfox]

On 09/08/2026 at 10:22, demon_dog said:

Question is am I lucky or not?

Last season after 30+ years I decided not to renew my ST.  As things stood it looked like I wouldn't bother going to see them again.

As things happened a disabled supporter was looking for someone to take them, I along with several others offered to take them. I was selected to do so after their first choice pulled out. I took them to every home game free of charge!

I'm glad it cost me nothing( apart from the fuel) as my instincts were correct, we were woeful.

I have been asked if I will take them this season.

Free ticket, free parking outside the ground, what would you do?

Don’t take them. 
 

They may have enough disadvantages in life for you to add to them  by facilitating this abject cruelty. Surely there is a duty of care to support them with good life choices 

[ElusiveEd]

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/32461/13569843/leicester-city-are-in-league-one-under-russell-martin-and-facing-an-all-time-low-but-revival-hopes-remain-at-king-power

[WorcesterBlue]

On 09/08/2026 at 10:22, demon_dog said:

Question is am I lucky or not?

Last season after 30+ years I decided not to renew my ST.  As things stood it looked like I wouldn't bother going to see them again.

As things happened a disabled supporter was looking for someone to take them, I along with several others offered to take them. I was selected to do so after their first choice pulled out. I took them to every home game free of charge!

I'm glad it cost me nothing( apart from the fuel) as my instincts were correct, we were woeful.

I have been asked if I will take them this season.

Free ticket, free parking outside the ground, what would you do?

As I see it it is a matter of do you want to help out somebody who could not go otherwise ?

You are not being asked to do something that is against your nature. You like going to the match otherwise you would not have been doing it all these years.

I understand that these last few years have not been great. But you dont know about the next.

But speaking as somebody who took my father for many years it was a pleasure seeing his face switching off from his health issues for a couple of hours.

Now. My daughter takes me and I love her even more for it.

 

[davieG]

https://foxesofleicester.com/future-leicester-star-expected-to-shine-this-season-keen-to-leave

 

Future Leicester star expected to shine this season keen to leave
By
Thomas Bradley Alderman
|

Leicester City’s decision to sell Jeremy Monga to Manchester City, for a fee that could rise to £12.5 million, sent shockwaves through the less well-informed members of the Foxes fan base. The Coventry-born teenager was ultimately prised away by his former boss (technically) Enzo Maresca, who had taken charge at the Etihad.

Whether Maresca had any personal connection to the player to exploit, and whether the price was inflated, remains a question that will likely never be answered. The winger, who had become the second-youngest player in Premier League history when he debuted at just 15, was the first major domino to fall in a summer that would see LCFC's youth pipeline dismantled with alarming speed.

It was not just Monga who was lured to the blue side of Manchester, as Darren Motsi (a highly regarded 15-year-old attacking midfielder who had already featured for Leicester's under-21s) has also seemingly agreed a move to the City Football Academy, despite late interest from Liverpool and Tottenham Hotspur. Motsi's departure underscores the alarming ease with which the country's biggest entities can now cherry-pick any club's most promising talent.

The allure of elite development pathways proves impossible for talented youngsters to resist. Worse still, the outflow has not been limited to the absolute elite, with sides across the football pyramid capitalising on the East Midlanders' financial vulnerability to snap up elite prospects who might otherwise have developed into first-team figures at King Power Stadium.

Louis Page may leave Leicester City
Attention has now turned to Louis Page, the 18-year-old midfield sensation who has emerged as one of the most coveted young talents outside the Premier League, with Arsenal, Manchester United and even Aston Villa all supposedly tracking his progress closely. Page, who was named EFL Apprentice of the Year last term, has already made over 20 senior appearances despite his tender age.

"Interestingly, Sky Sports reporter Danyal Khan claims Page is keen on joining United."
People's Person via Sky Sports
At six feet tall, he possesses a left foot that allows him to dictate tempo, drive through lines and arrive late in the box to score goals - qualities that have drawn inevitable comparisons with some of the game's finest midfielders. Reports suggest the England U20 international is personally open to a move to Old Trafford, having grown up supporting Manchester United, a development that has sent a wave of anxiety through the LCFC support that goes far beyond losing one more gifted youngster.

For City supporters, the prospect of losing Page is not merely another transfer sale but a symbolic moment that feels like the beginning of the end of the their most ambitious era, a signal that their once-proud production line has been obliterated and that they are sliding toward irrelevance. The rising Foxes star was widely expected to be heavily involved in manager Russell Martin's plans, with many inside and outside the club tipping him to start the opening matches of the season or at the very least be on the cusp of securing a permanent spot in the first XI, making his potential departure a tactical blow as well as an emotional one.

[Jacnah]

12 minutes ago, davieG said:

https://foxesofleicester.com/future-leicester-star-expected-to-shine-this-season-keen-to-leave

 

Future Leicester star expected to shine this season keen to leave
By
Thomas Bradley Alderman
|

Leicester City’s decision to sell Jeremy Monga to Manchester City, for a fee that could rise to £12.5 million, sent shockwaves through the less well-informed members of the Foxes fan base. The Coventry-born teenager was ultimately prised away by his former boss (technically) Enzo Maresca, who had taken charge at the Etihad.

Whether Maresca had any personal connection to the player to exploit, and whether the price was inflated, remains a question that will likely never be answered. The winger, who had become the second-youngest player in Premier League history when he debuted at just 15, was the first major domino to fall in a summer that would see LCFC's youth pipeline dismantled with alarming speed.

It was not just Monga who was lured to the blue side of Manchester, as Darren Motsi (a highly regarded 15-year-old attacking midfielder who had already featured for Leicester's under-21s) has also seemingly agreed a move to the City Football Academy, despite late interest from Liverpool and Tottenham Hotspur. Motsi's departure underscores the alarming ease with which the country's biggest entities can now cherry-pick any club's most promising talent.

The allure of elite development pathways proves impossible for talented youngsters to resist. Worse still, the outflow has not been limited to the absolute elite, with sides across the football pyramid capitalising on the East Midlanders' financial vulnerability to snap up elite prospects who might otherwise have developed into first-team figures at King Power Stadium.

Louis Page may leave Leicester City
Attention has now turned to Louis Page, the 18-year-old midfield sensation who has emerged as one of the most coveted young talents outside the Premier League, with Arsenal, Manchester United and even Aston Villa all supposedly tracking his progress closely. Page, who was named EFL Apprentice of the Year last term, has already made over 20 senior appearances despite his tender age.

"Interestingly, Sky Sports reporter Danyal Khan claims Page is keen on joining United."
People's Person via Sky Sports
At six feet tall, he possesses a left foot that allows him to dictate tempo, drive through lines and arrive late in the box to score goals - qualities that have drawn inevitable comparisons with some of the game's finest midfielders. Reports suggest the England U20 international is personally open to a move to Old Trafford, having grown up supporting Manchester United, a development that has sent a wave of anxiety through the LCFC support that goes far beyond losing one more gifted youngster.

For City supporters, the prospect of losing Page is not merely another transfer sale but a symbolic moment that feels like the beginning of the end of the their most ambitious era, a signal that their once-proud production line has been obliterated and that they are sliding toward irrelevance. The rising Foxes star was widely expected to be heavily involved in manager Russell Martin's plans, with many inside and outside the club tipping him to start the opening matches of the season or at the very least be on the cusp of securing a permanent spot in the first XI, making his potential departure a tactical blow as well as an emotional one.

He has qualities and potential for sure, but, I'm not sure I'd call Page a 'teenage sensation'.

 

Rather than purely negative, another way of looking at the situation is that (a)the youth pipeline has been a source of revenue when we desperately need it and that its a symptom of issues over at least 5-6 years and (b) if those symptoms hadnt arisen and we were still competeing in the Premier League then these young lads would probably not have had a chance at trhe club anyway

[AKCJ]

Just now, Jacnah said:

He has qualities and potential for sure, but, I'm not sure I'd call Page a 'teenage sensation'.

 

Rather than purely negative, another way of looking at the situation is that (a)the youth pipeline has been a source of revenue when we desperately need it and that its a symptom of issues over at least 5-6 years and (b) if those symptoms hadnt arisen and we were still competeing in the Premier League then these young lads would probably not have had a chance at trhe club anyway

He was voted EFL apprentice of the season for last year. 

[Jacnah]

2 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

He was voted EFL apprentice of the season for last year. 

I wasnt suggesting he was a bad player, just that sensation conjours up a once in a generational talent. 

[davieG]

16 minutes ago, Jacnah said:

He has qualities and potential for sure, but, I'm not sure I'd call Page a 'teenage sensation'.

 

Rather than purely negative, another way of looking at the situation is that (a)the youth pipeline has been a source of revenue when we desperately need it and that its a symptom of issues over at least 5-6 years and (b) if those symptoms hadnt arisen and we were still competeing in the Premier League then these young lads would probably not have had a chance at trhe club anyway

They would hopefully be getting loans to L1, L2 and Championship clubs depending on their level

[OntarioFox]

On 06/08/2026 at 09:38, davieG said:

Championship8bit ·

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Leicester City are charging fans £47 to watch their League 1 fixture vs Burton Albion…

What on earth

 

Alan Robey

 ·No there charging a small section of the ground on the half way line (prime seats) that most of the other sections of the ground are £26 £31 £36 a ticket but guess socials media only pick out the higher ticket price to get reactions

Top's not gonna top you Alan mate

[Jacnah]

4 hours ago, davieG said:

They would hopefully be getting loans to L1, L2 and Championship clubs depending on their level

Yes hopefully....... and then given a chance to develop playing competitive football

[davieG]

https://archive.ph/QCX7D#selection-1335.0-1807.310

 

Leicester City: How not to run a football club

The stark reality is no one knows when, or where, Leicester's freefall ends

August 19, 2026 6:00 am (Updated 6:01 am)

 Leicester City are in League One 10 years after the 5000-1 fairy tale (Photo: i/Getty)

Daniel Storey Sport Feature Writer of the Year

 

Midway through the first half, when Notts County supporters have accumulated enough belief that their pride won’t immediately follow a fall, a chant directed towards the away end starts up. It quickly fills three-and-a-half sides of Meadow Lane:

 

“Premier League, and you f****d it up.”

Ordinarily this would provoke a fevered response. This is a local derby on the opening weekend of a new league season; self-esteem should hang in the air like white smoke. The potential responses are cliched and a little dull – “S**t ground, no fans”, “My garden shed is bigger than this”, “Where were you when you were s**t?”- but you still want to hear them anyway.

 

From the Leicester City supporters in a sold-out away end, nothing. Even from afar, the reaction was obvious: several thousand people knew that they should retort but couldn’t stomach it. They broadly turned to one another, shrugged and said, “Yeah, fair cop”. They were Premier League. And they did f**k it up. And they’re sick of it.

The temptation with Leicester City (and it’s certainly forgivable for their own supporters) is to wind all the way back to 2016. The freak season. The one in a million, or at least 5,000-1. I get it; that title win was a touchstone moment for English football. But it’s not super helpful here because it was an exception.

 

But five years ago, Leicester City finished fifth in the Premier League and that wasn’t an exception because they finished fifth the season before. They also won the FA Cup. Five years ago, Notts County finished fifth in the National League and were eliminated from FA Cup qualifying having been unable to field a team against King Lynn Town. On Saturday they met as League One equals. They left as equals too, although Notts were comfortably the better side with the better chances.

Going to the King Power in the title-winning season smothered you with a sense of magic and destiny, sporting otherworldliness. It wasn’t like that in 2020-21. Instead, it was a club, manager and group of players who knew what they were doing, where they were going and how they were going to get there. Leicester City had everything they needed and every other club outside the financial elite wanted.

 

That is what provokes the most anger here. It’s not the gross wastage, the bad results or the cycling through managers, although all are symptoms and none represent anything good. It’s the chronic loss of identity on and off the pitch.

At least a dozen times over the last three years I’ve seen supporters going through the motions watching players barely even doing that. Think what this club has been through, both extraordinarily brilliant and awfully tragic, and reflect upon how hard it is to destroy that connection.

“The disengagement began long before the slip through the leagues,” says Chris Rice of Foxes Trust, the largest supporters’ group. “When a football club deprioritises its supporters, it’s an accident waiting to happen, regardless of results on the pitch at the time. We have slowly, bit-by-bit, lost our identity. Lost the essence of what Leicester City should be about.”

Among the support at non-financially elite clubs that touch the sky and then fall, there is often a temptation to cry foul: the system is weighted against us, the cartel don’t want us, we were a nuisance and so they got rid of us.

Which…maybe. The privilege of established wealth comes not at its high ceiling but high floor. They come mob-handed with insurance. You can make a lot of mistakes and then use money to fix them very quickly. Yes, I’m talking about Tottenham Hotspur.

 

To the credit of Leicester fans, there is very little of that. Instead, they know the truth: bad decisions piled upon bad decisions, a churn of managers, signings and contract extensions that were unfit for purpose at half the price. It all left a club chasing its tail in a panic without the competence to do anything other than grind itself further into the dirt.

There is little need to detail the entire rogue’s gallery of wanton mismanagement and overspending; we have pointed fingers before at Top Srivaddhanaprabha and Jon Rudkin. Best now to just say that tail-chasing is sport’s most expensive pastime. Last week, Leicester were put up for sale for more than £200m (which means a sale could well happen for less). When you consider that the club has a £100m training centre, it offers a glimpse into the distressed nature of this asset. This is a complete mess.

 

It’s also worth saying: League One clubs don’t usually get sold for £200m. And they certainly don’t usually get sold for £200m when their latest accounts detail £103.6m in bank loans and Citigroup forecasts the club’s turnover for 2026 to be less than that. Fail to get promotion back to the Championship and…well, it doesn’t really bear thinking about.

More immediately, self-inflicted damage has left something deeply weird on the pitch. You have Alex McCarthy, Harry Souttar and Caleb Okoli trying to play Russell Martin football, which is a little like asking a panda to unicycle. You have a group of prodigious but raw academy babies who are now the best players. You have names who provoke the same reaction as looking through an ancient school yearbook: “Oh god yeah, do you remember Bobby Cordova-Reid and Oliver Skipp – were they mates?”.

 

And watching on: a sea of misery, disillusionment and righteous anger in the stands. The chants against the owner start in the first five minutes. During the second half, when Leicester are being pinned back by a newly-promoted team, the away end produces audible boos.

Booing has become a point of controversy. I’ve heard them under the stewardship of Maresca, Cifuentes, Rodgers, Cooper, Van Nistelrooy and Rowett, different types of coaches who produced different results. The accusation from outside the club is that supporters are guilty of entitlement.

I don’t buy that. These people are simply flummoxed and have no other way to express themselves. Their club normalised achievement and told them that a plan was in place for it to last. When things began to crumble, they were told that a plan was in place for recovery. Both times it was disproven. They had it all and now they have comparatively nothing. That’s pretty hard to process calmly when you have witnessed the whole gamut.

There is a cliché with coverage of Leicester City now that you may have heard in the wild: “Well, you would have taken the last 12 years, wouldn’t you?” And yes, winning the Premier League title, the FA Cup and playing in each European competition was sensational. But that’s not an answer because that’s not how football clubs have to work. Eventual failure wasn’t guaranteed here. It was driven by organisational ineptitude. That is why they boo.

Football clubs get things wrong all the time. Some of them get most things wrong for a long time and end up tumbling through divisions. You cannot pretend that this is part of a plan because football supporters aren’t stupid. The leadership of clubs is judged best during these sorry episodes and by how they act accordingly.

 

If there is one base expectation from a reasonable football fan, it is this: communicate with me; don’t take me for granted and don’t treat me like my disappointment is an inconvenience to you.

That’s where this gets messiest. At the end of last season, the Foxes Trust surveyed fans about the state of the club. The response was utterly devastating regarding Leicester City’s reputation amongst its own supporters. It should have been a time for immediate mea culpa and rebuilding work on the relationship. It wasn’t.

“We are at the lowest point in our history, after back-to-back relegations, and we felt hopeful after a meeting between the club and the full Foxes Trust board in April that things might start to change this summer, because they had to,” says Rice. “The reality of what we have experienced, however, is that things are worse.”

“There has been pretty much zero communication from any of the senior management since relegation and there has been little to no movement on any of our end-of-season survey calls to action. The club has simply carried on in the same manner as the one that has got us into this mess. Zero lessons learned, zero accountability and zero effort to even appear to be trying to get the fans back on board.”

New owners don’t solve every ill – there is too much lasting water damage. They can even come laced with danger: supporters question the motives of anyone prepared to take on this lumbering problem and begin to become expert detectors of bullshit and bluster.

But new owners must come, if only to end this sorry experience of how not to run a football club. A hard reset is needed: off the pitch, on the pitch, in the stands, in the relationships between stakeholders that are the fabric of football clubs and have become so badly frayed. The greatest fear of every Leicester City supporter I speak to: inaction as an implicit choice through the repeated failure to spot the next calamity coming over the hill.

Their club is very difficult to value accurately. Their club is very difficult to sell easily. The timescale for full recovery is impossible to gauge. The only thing anybody can say with any certainty is the mantra that drowns out everything else at Leicester City: if nothing changes, it can always get worse.