How many people have priority points

[SemperEadem]

2 minutes ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

Been said 100000 times, rolling priority system, 5 years would be ok IMO, a lot fairer than 10.

Take the 50 points out. Thats the crux of it.

[grobyfox1990]

2 minutes ago, phoneticerror said:

It’s in no way different to fox membership mate

Exactly, and that receives almost universal condemnation. 

[grobyfox1990]

4 minutes ago, phoneticerror said:

What was the away day ticketing system like before the current point system was bought in? Free for all?

No. P1, P2, P3, all STH, general. As far as I remember it. We’ve always taken good numbers everywhere in my living memory (early 30s). League 1 season was insanely popular.

[Foxoffice]

14 minutes ago, KrefelderFox666 said:

To be fair, this discussion is ongoing no matter which games are coming up. Of course, when the quick seller games appear it amplifies the conversation.

I’d imagine if we get promoted you’ll see a lot more tickets being made available if the name checks/collect from away games are imposed as before, I know a few of the higher brackets pick and choose games and offload to mates ect to the ones they don’t fancy.

[phoneticerror]

6 minutes ago, grobyfox1990 said:

Exactly, and that receives almost universal condemnation. 

Fair. I’m not saying it’s a great option, but I’d be prepared to do it if I actually got some bloody away tickets. 😂

[Leicester_Loyal]

8 minutes ago, SemperEadem said:

Take the 50 points out. Thats the crux of it.

Yeah that's probably better tbh.

 

Either or for me, something has to be done though, can't carry on as it is.

[lcfcjosh]

2 hours ago, grobyfox1990 said:

First whining because it's a closed shop and no one new can get tickets. Then whining because new members can get tickets. 

why should members get tickets when season ticket holders can’t ?

[grobyfox1990]

8 hours ago, lcfcjosh said:

why should members get tickets when season ticket holders can’t ?

Why should STHs get tickets when members can’t? 

[phoneticerror]

10 minutes ago, grobyfox1990 said:

Why should STHs get tickets when members can’t? 

Should be quite self explanatory 

[Langley]

2 hours ago, grobyfox1990 said:

Why should STHs get tickets when members can’t? 

Because if you go to the games you should get a ticket.

 

Always kicks off for high demand games or low allocation aways - never hear people crying for a Burnley ticket on a tuesday night.

[Robo61]

11 hours ago, SemperEadem said:

Take the 50 points out. Thats the crux of it.

Don't agree, those that commit to all home games should have priority over those that don't.  50 points though is too many and should reflective of  the number ogf games committed too,  so this season 23 next season hopefully 19.

 

Seems to be we should simply have one account having points for home and away makes no sense so all should get one point per game attended whether a a ST holder,  member or General Public.  Agree though that ten years is to many and ought to revert to around 5,  though the current system benefits me a ST holder of some 20 years standing who averages around 5 away games a year.

[grobyfox1990]

2 hours ago, phoneticerror said:

Should be quite self explanatory 

Why should someone who has an ST who goes to every home match and villa away once every four years be given priority over a member who either cannot afford a commit to an STH because they work weekends, but puts in the miles for midweek aways or unfashionable games. They shouldn't. That is quite self-explanatory. 

You say loyalty should not be rewarded, much like gig tickets, but then say loyalty should be rewarded because you have an ST. All your proposals are schemes that will suit you and you alone.

[guest123]

here's why you'll never find a perfect solution. I've probably been to more games this season than most people on here, but as a member I get absolutely no priority or loyalyy bonus. I won't be able to get a season ticket as i won't get enough point i'd have thought. I'll also spend more money than those with season tickets come the end of the season, but get no rewards for it apart from going closer up the ladder for the season after maybe

[phoneticerror]

28 minutes ago, grobyfox1990 said:

Why should someone who has an ST who goes to every home match and villa away once every four years be given priority over a member who either cannot afford a commit to an STH because they work weekends, but puts in the miles for midweek aways or unfashionable games. They shouldn't. That is quite self-explanatory. 

You say loyalty should not be rewarded, much like gig tickets, but then say loyalty should be rewarded because you have an ST. All your proposals are schemes that will suit you and you alone.

😂 Yes, me and me alone. My proposal was to give me first dibs then everybody else 🤦‍♂️

[lcfcjosh]

4 hours ago, grobyfox1990 said:

Why should STHs get tickets when members can’t? 

Is this a serious question?

[adejo92]

I think this thread alone demonstrates just how difficult it would be to please everyone.

 

I don't think anyone's opinions on this thread are wrong, It just simply is a case of you will never please everyone.

 

As a STH who has been to a lot of away games, including those abroad, i feel a bit p1ssed that i can't get away tickets....but on the same token, i don't for one minute expect to have the same privilege or priority as those that go week in week out.

 

Ultimately, i think it's just a case of life's not fair.

Edited 8 January by adejo92

[Sol thewall Bamba]

What's the current top band at the moment? I've seen people with close to 700 points now. So if the scheme stays as it is, a new ST holder would be able to catch the top band at a rate of 19 points per season at best (assumes the top band magically stop going to games which they won't), assuming we get promoted.

 

700/19 = 36 seasons  

[iancognito]

20 minutes ago, adejo92 said:

I think this thread alone demonstrates just how difficult it would be to please everyone.

 

I don't think anyone's opinions on this thread are wrong, It just simply is a case of you will never please everyone.

 

As a STH who has been to a lot of away games, including those abroad, i feel a bit p1ssed that i can't get away tickets....but on the same token, i don't for one minute expect to have the same privilege or priority as those that go week in week out.

 

Ultimately, i think it's just a case of life's not fair.

And precisely why they'll never change it. Easy life for them without being hassled by the Ginettas, the trust and the random bus 1ers about why their mates can't get tickets anymore.

[Langley]

2 hours ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

What's the current top band at the moment? I've seen people with close to 700 points now. So if the scheme stays as it is, a new ST holder would be able to catch the top band at a rate of 19 points per season at best (assumes the top band magically stop going to games which they won't), assuming we get promoted.

 

700/19 = 36 seasons  

 

 

I dunno I'm at 637 points.

 

Something that isn't fair  I will state is that you got as many points for CSKA Moscow away as what you'll get for Burton away pre season.

[SemperEadem]

I don't think you should get points for pre season friendly games but I also don't think we should be grading games with any standing higher than any other. Never got on board with giving Sunderland on a mid week more than say West Brom on a weekend.

Edited 8 January by SemperEadem

[grobyfox1990]

3 hours ago, lcfcjosh said:

Is this a serious question?

A member who clocks every away game that reaches their level should be further down the queue than a ST who has never done an away match? If you were in this boat, you'd be crying the river that you'd be floating on. Away tickets should be based on attendance at away matches, not sure why that's so hard to understand. 

[KrefelderFox666]

2 hours ago, iancognito said:

And precisely why they'll never change it. Easy life for them without being hassled by the Ginettas, the trust and the random bus 1ers about why their mates can't get tickets anymore.

This is a bit of common misconception though (only quoting you as it was the latest one). If STH's regularly go to away games, they will continue to be in the top bands. Assuming they had the ST since 2014.

 

The problem is that anyone who got a ST after 2014, in particular 2/3 years after or later, will almost forever be battling it out in the All STH bracket, doesn't matter whether they do Sunderland on a midweek or not. They cannot catch up. Someone who has been to 1 or 2 away games in 10 years has more of a priority than those "newbies" and will remain so for seasons to come. That is the main issue.

 

The other example for this, if someone has had a ST for 5 years and gone to 10 away games a season, they will be in the same priority group as someone who got their first ST this year and has never been to an away game.

 

I am praying the club finally pull their fingers out and realise that fans who haven't been STH's since 2014/15 deserve some changes to make this a fair system. It doesn't even benefit me and might even hamper my own priority bracket but at the end of the day it is about being fair to the wider fanbase.

[Langley]

38 minutes ago, SemperEadem said:

I don't think you should get points for pre season friendly games but I also don't think we should be grading games with any standing higher than any other. Never got on board with giving Sunderland on a mid week more than say West Brom on a weekend.

No - it's more the European games should've counted for more.

 

Rome, Rennes and Randers being the same as Huddersfield, Hull and Hartlepool doesn't sit right with me.

[Kegworthfox]

It’s not just us old ones on high high points for the first time today was able to get my 14 year old grandson a stoke ticket as he is on 600 points 

[lcfcjosh]

2 hours ago, Kegworthfox said:

It’s not just us old ones on high high points for the first time today was able to get my 14 year old grandson a stoke ticket as he is on 600 points 

not everyone was fortunate to go to aways at a young age or have a season ticket