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[grobyfox1990]

5 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

Unfortunately, that's something that will never be universally agreed upon and so neither will what would be a proportionate response. I'm more concerned with the implication made by some that there should be no consequences of meaning at all.

 

Speaking personally, if I were his employer I wouldn't take drastic action, but as said above, I wouldn't really shed a tear or look to defend the guy if his employer decided to be drastic, either.

 

NB. With Gervais, he punches down but you can tell it comes from a desire to shock in the name of humour and everyone is targeted. With some of these comments, I'm not sure humour is the objective here, rather seeking to cause deliberate harm. The two are different, and given the sometimes tribal nature of football you can't assume they're all one offs, either.

Fair point. Harsh to assume Granto is making these comments to be deliberately hurtful though. He would've sank 7 carling and a tenth of a gram yesterday and wanted to impress his mates, is an equal assumption. 

[ozleicester]

1 hour ago, grobyfox1990 said:

There's always one that takes it completely out of context and loses all grasp of reality to make a point, this is why I love the internet. 

I don’t care how they vote, who they sleep with, what they say on the internet, what they eat or drink, where they go.

 

I care about how they conduct themselves in the work place and how they get their job done.

This is the context

[Corky]

1 hour ago, grobyfox1990 said:

 

So where is the line? How do we be proportionate? Of course consequences should come his way, but losing his job?!?!?! Anger and frustration are only a few emotions, the bloke has had his best day out at the football forever, had a few too many carlings and could not handle the coke his mate cobbo from Nuneaton gave him. Thereafter made a stupid, presumably one-off, comment on the interweb. It is not comparable to racism, homophobia or sexism. I really cannot tally as to why this should fundamentally alter his life forever.

I was raucously laughing at the Ricky Gervais show on Netflix the other night. Will the line keep on coming down as to eventually report me for finding his comments, which are far more derisory than Granto's, funny? i am being flippant here but you get the drift.

I said I didn't think he should lose his job. I don't know what the consequences should be- I wouldn't be against him and others having to justify why they did it to the affected parties such as Top or Bradley Lowery's family who were referenced. I don't think any explanation makes you look good and might make people think twice before doing it but realise it isn't really practical- I just find the whole stuff around mocking deaths and tragedies pathetic. 

 

I know it won't stop and this will carry on ad infinitum. Just worse that grown men do it and not always immature kids.

[phoneticerror]

10 minutes ago, ozleicester said:

I don’t care how they vote, who they sleep with, what they say on the internet, what they eat or drink, where they go.

 

I care about how they conduct themselves in the work place and how they get their job done.

This is the context

[grobyfox1990]

12 minutes ago, ozleicester said:

I don’t care how they vote, who they sleep with, what they say on the internet, what they eat or drink, where they go.

 

I care about how they conduct themselves in the work place and how they get their job done.

This is the context

No it is not (I had no idea you could bold text on here, thanks!). How they vote who they bang etc is part of everyday life. Beating your partner is clearly not.

We are humans who possess EQ so we can assume when others make remarks like 'I don't care what they do' - that clearly does not encapsulate things like beating up your wife, going on a stabbing spree, being a child groomer or being a forest fan. Thought that wouldn't need to be said out loud but there you go.

[Guest glasgowfox]

8 minutes ago, grobyfox1990 said:

No it is not (I had no idea you could bold text on here, thanks!). How they vote who they bang etc is part of everyday life. Beating your partner is clearly not.

We are humans who possess EQ so we can assume when others make remarks like 'I don't care what they do' - that clearly does not encapsulate things like beating up your wife, going on a stabbing spree, being a child groomer or being a forest fan. Thought that wouldn't need to be said out loud but there you go.

Don't rise to it mate.  Bit silly if people want to twist things but that's life buddy.

[Chrysalis]

18 hours ago, Asha said:

And why do you think they do that?

 

Because it gets such an over-the-top reaction. 

 

Trying to ruin the life of some random guy on Facebook because he put a crash emoji in a stupid post? Fvcking hell, man... get a grip. 

 

It was obviously a tragedy and it's ultimate numbskullery to joke about it, but some Leicester fans need to remember that Vichai wasn't actually THEIR Dad.

 

 

These kind of things are just plain sick, there is no excuse for the behaviour.  It says a lot about the mentality of some football supporters, when they make comments like "over reacting".  The game needs to kick these kind of fans out, as its just atrocious behaviour.

 

Who in their right mind wakes up and decides to mock the dead.  I just dont understand the thought process of such an individual.

[Wymsey]

Do those doing such actions don't understand that whatever they put on social media can have a big consequence/s in their life in some form?..

 

Yes, they may be drunk/'coked up' when they typed and press the post button, but surely they're not that daft to not understand any issues that may arise from their actions.

Edited 14 January 2024 by Wymsey

[Foxdiamond]

4 hours ago, Corky said:

I said I didn't think he should lose his job. I don't know what the consequences should be- I wouldn't be against him and others having to justify why they did it to the affected parties such as Top or Bradley Lowery's family who were referenced. I don't think any explanation makes you look good and might make people think twice before doing it but realise it isn't really practical- I just find the whole stuff around mocking deaths and tragedies pathetic. 

 

I know it won't stop and this will carry on ad infinitum. Just worse that grown men do it and not always immature kids.

You can bet these same morons who mock death and tragedies are just the sort of people that behave badly in other areas of life. 

[FoxInTheBirstallBox]

6 hours ago, ozleicester said:

I don’t care how they vote, who they sleep with, what they say on the internet, what they eat or drink, where they go.

 

I care about how they conduct themselves in the work place and how they get their job done.

This is the context

Does my pay scale change wether I care about any of these? That's why I'm at work, it's not for me to grease others meat or care who they make cry on the internet 

[Foxes_Trust]

A campaign was started at the beginning of this season, signed by all the main football bodies including the Football Supporters Association, calling out such behaviour, we wrote an article about it at the time

Football unites to improve participant & fan behaviour – 2023-24 – Foxes Trust

 

 

 

[Daggers]

I can’t help but find myself wondering what’s missing from the lives of people who get worked up over tragedy chanting and related wummery? I’m speculating that they’re the same kind of people who write in to local newspapers complaining about the lack of poppies being worn or campaign for people to stand during the National Anthem.

 

But really? Writing to someone’s boss because of an emoji? Fvck me that’s a whole new level of feeble-minded fvckwittery.

[Guest worth_the_wait]

2 hours ago, Daggers said:

I can’t help but find myself wondering what’s missing from the lives of people who get worked up over tragedy chanting and related wummery? I’m speculating that they’re the same kind of people who write in to local newspapers complaining about the lack of poppies being worn or campaign for people to stand during the National Anthem.

 

 

I suspect they are most definitely not those kind of people.

[ClaphamFox]

2 hours ago, Daggers said:

I can’t help but find myself wondering what’s missing from the lives of people who get worked up over tragedy chanting and related wummery? I’m speculating that they’re the same kind of people who write in to local newspapers complaining about the lack of poppies being worn or campaign for people to stand during the National Anthem.

 

But really? Writing to someone’s boss because of an emoji? Fvck me that’s a whole new level of feeble-minded fvckwittery.

Social media has taken offence-taking to a completely different level though. Before the internet there were always people who wrote into newspapers to express their outrage about something or other, but it took effort to do this and most people couldn't be bothered. Now it's possible to publish your views online in seconds - that's a game-changer.

 

The other factor in this is that we've become much more hyper-sensitive than we used to be. This trend predated the internet but has certainly been amplified by it. And in many ways, it's been a positive development - misogyny, racism, homophobia etc are far less acceptable than they were a few decades ago. There is much more focus in schools and workplaces on making everybody feel included and having a zero tolerance attitude towards bullying. It's by no means perfect, but it's much better than it was.

 

The problem is, somewhere along the line we seem to have lost a bit of perspective. Instead of merely responding to clear instances of bullying or harassment, some people actually go looking for things to be offended by in order to parade their hurt feelings online. The culture seems to be telling people, "You found something upsetting? Let everybody know and seek retribution against the person who offended you! Ruin their life if you can!" It's bonkers.

 

I'm glad my children are growing up in an era when bullying and harassment are far less tolerated than it was when I was at school - this can only be a good thing. But I don't think this atmosphere of emotional hysteria can ultimately be good for anybody's mental health. Hopefully over time a sense of balance will return and we'll again be able to differentiate between behaviour that is genuinely damaging/threatening and that which is merely obnoxious, or just somebody expressing a different opinion.

 

[Tommy G]

The problem here is a mixture of social media, working class, IQ levels and alcohol/drugs. Mix that up in a kitchen aid and you get Grant.

 

Plenty of LCFC fans in this boat aswell, doesn't matter what badge you support when the above gets mixed together. 

 

Nothing worse than I'm whiter than white society.  

[justfoxes]

On 13/01/2024 at 19:08, Nalis said:

'Grant, 47. Carling drinking Brexiteer.  Beats the missus when bored'

Plus if brains was Semtex he’d  not have enough to blow his nose also drags knuckles behind him behaving like a pathetic Neanderthal!!

Edited 15 January 2024 by justfoxes

[Daggers]

37 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

 

I'm glad my children are growing up in an era when bullying and harassment are far less tolerated than it was when I was at school - this can only be a good thing. But I don't think this atmosphere of emotional hysteria can ultimately be good for anybody's mental health. Hopefully over time a sense of balance will return and we'll again be able to differentiate between behaviour that is genuinely damaging/threatening and that which is merely obnoxious, or just somebody expressing a different opinion.

 

Great. Shaming the childless? You are a monster. I’m going to write a very terse post about this on Threads.

[Nalis]

'Grant, 53. Distrusts anything thats foreign and yearns for the days men were men. Ideal Saturday night is watching Ms Browns Boys with a curry.'

Edited 15 January 2024 by Nalis