Conor Coady

[VLC86]

8 minutes ago, Bordersfox said:

I wonder how that works as aren't we still under an embargo until June when we technically become a PL?  Or does it not preclude players with existing contracts at the club having then renewed?   

 

6 minutes ago, suffolk fox said:

agreed,  Vestergaard has not signed yet, we are still under an embargo until June 9th.

Maybe wrong use of the word “signed” when it should have said “agreed” but apparently it’s done.

[Scotch]

8 minutes ago, suffolk fox said:

agreed,  Vestergaard has not signed yet, we are still under an embargo until June 9th.

An embargo doesn't mean we can't sign someone, it means we can't register them, as far as I'm aware. 

[Kegworthfox]

2 hours ago, suffolk fox said:

agreed,  Vestergaard has not signed yet, we are still under an embargo until June 9th.

I believe you can sign players already at the club but not loan or anybody else 

 

[ClaphamFox]

2 hours ago, VLC86 said:

 

Maybe wrong use of the word “signed” when it should have said “agreed” but apparently it’s done.

If it's just an agreement and is not legally binding, it may not be done after all. 

[Bordersfox]

13 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

If it's just an agreement and is not legally binding, it may not be done after all. 

What Scotch said seems to make sense, we have signed him up but cannot yet register him.  

[ClaphamFox]

20 minutes ago, Bordersfox said:

What Scotch said seems to make sense, we have signed him up but cannot yet register him.  

This may well be the case. I'm just curious to know what the source is for the claim that we have already signed him - I've read it a few times but I don't know whether it's definitely true or just a rumour.

[Bordersfox]

20 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

This may well be the case. I'm just curious to know what the source is for the claim that we have already signed him - I've read it a few times but I don't know whether it's definitely true or just a rumour.

Agreed I haven't seen anything concrete either. 

[Wymsey]

Apparently had a rift with a player at the training ground before a player's meeting was arranged.

[Chrysalis]

On 29/05/2024 at 18:36, ClaphamFox said:

This may well be the case. I'm just curious to know what the source is for the claim that we have already signed him - I've read it a few times but I don't know whether it's definitely true or just a rumour.

Curious now if Vesty was actually done before Enzo left, just announced later.

[Collymore]

13 minutes ago, Chrysalis said:

Curious now if Vesty was actually done before Enzo left, just announced later.

Enzo so tunnel visioned in his methods he expects the club to play exactly the same way as him even when he's gone! 

[justfoxes]

On 08/06/2024 at 10:31, Collymore said:

Enzo so tunnel visioned in his methods he expects the club to play exactly the same way as him even when he's gone! 

Maybe Enzo can do us a favour by moving in and buying for pond life scum sucking Schittsea  Thomas Vestergaard Faes and Daka for about £200m should be great help towards the Dodgy EPL FFP Bull💩 !😉

[Dahnsouff]

On 08/06/2024 at 10:31, Collymore said:

Enzo so tunnel visioned in his methods he expects the club to play exactly the same way as him even when he's gone! 

Puel, Rodgers and Enzo all say hold my beer to this tosh. Surely by now it’s obvious that this style  is a club legislated thing, the latest exponent being Enzo.

Edited 25 June 2024 by Dahnsouff

[sylofox]

3 hours ago, Dahnsouff said:

Puel, Rodgers and Enzo all say hold my beer to this tosh. Surely by now it’s obvious that this style  is a club legislated thing, the latest exponent being Enzo.

They watch pep ball played with world class internationals and think we can do it. We won the prem without the ball and it was exciting. This is boring paint dry football.

 

Just look at England tonight awful boring shite.

[Babylon]

On 08/06/2024 at 10:17, Chrysalis said:

Curious now if Vesty was actually done before Enzo left, just announced later.

I read that he was listed as contracted in the released players list, rather than subject to contract offer. So I'm guessing is was basically all done and dusted and just not announced.

[Big_Nige]

12 hours ago, sylofox said:

They watch pep ball played with world class internationals and think we can do it. We won the prem without the ball and it was exciting. This is boring paint dry football.

 

Just look at England tonight awful boring shite.

To use the way England play and compare it to Pep/Enzo/some other manager in a similar style is just so wrong. It’s comparing Apples to Oranges. There is nothing similar in Southgate’s turgid football that relies on individuals producing moments to that of “Pep-ball”. Pep is all about patterns of play and re-cycling the ball to re-create those patterns of play to point of madness. Enzo was the same. It’s death by passing which yes can be quite boring at times, but there’s method in the madness.
 

England are different, Southgate is a terrible coach, square pegs in round holes, players not knowing what their role is on the pitch. Him and his staff are clueless. Southgate has been successful historically to a point but that was based on Set Pieces, Team Spirit and Kane in his pomp. He’s not been able to get a tune out of some of the best creative talent we’ve seen in generations
 

I’m not some Pep disciple by any means, my personal preference is certainly a more aggressive, fast style of football. But it just annoys me when Southgate’s terrorist ball is even used in the same breath of a manager that is a genius and has re-defined how football is played. Southgate’s legacy is a waistcoat and a Pizza Advert

[sylofox]

2 hours ago, Big_Nige said:

To use the way England play and compare it to Pep/Enzo/some other manager in a similar style is just so wrong. It’s comparing Apples to Oranges. There is nothing similar in Southgate’s turgid football that relies on individuals producing moments to that of “Pep-ball”. Pep is all about patterns of play and re-cycling the ball to re-create those patterns of play to point of madness. Enzo was the same. It’s death by passing which yes can be quite boring at times, but there’s method in the madness.
 

England are different, Southgate is a terrible coach, square pegs in round holes, players not knowing what their role is on the pitch. Him and his staff are clueless. Southgate has been successful historically to a point but that was based on Set Pieces, Team Spirit and Kane in his pomp. He’s not been able to get a tune out of some of the best creative talent we’ve seen in generations
 

I’m not some Pep disciple by any means, my personal preference is certainly a more aggressive, fast style of football. But it just annoys me when Southgate’s terrorist ball is even used in the same breath of a manager that is a genius and has re-defined how football is played. Southgate’s legacy is a waistcoat and a Pizza Advert

No the big difference in pep ball he has a whole squad purchased for that style. England don't have that luxury and neither Did we last season. So once sussed out it didn't work anywhere near as well.

 

Southgate is suffercating our squad playing the same sort of style.

 

That and it's boring as fvck.

[Detroit Blues]

14 minutes ago, sylofox said:

No the big difference in pep ball he has a whole squad purchased for that style. England don't have that luxury and neither Did we last season. So once sussed out it didn't work anywhere near as well.

 

Southgate is suffercating our squad playing the same sort of style.

 

That and it's boring as fvck.

 

Yes poor little England. No way they could use their world class talent to play an attractive possession style of football in a tournament game against the likes of ... Slovenia. 

 

Leicester didn't have the luxury? Sure we did! If you recall, not only did we play Enzo ball, we won the championship with it last season  

 

[Lesterlad]

20 hours ago, justfoxes said:

Maybe Enzo can do us a favour by moving in and buying for pond life scum sucking Schittsea  Thomas Vestergaard Faes and Daka for about £200m should be great help towards the Dodgy EPL FFP Bull💩 !😉

You sound bright

[Dahnsouff]

3 hours ago, sylofox said:

No the big difference in pep ball he has a whole squad purchased for that style. England don't have that luxury and neither Did we last season. So once sussed out it didn't work anywhere near as well.

 

Southgate is suffercating our squad playing the same sort of style.

 

That and it's boring as fvck.

So you are saying this England squad cannot play this ill defined Pep ball? We played ‘it’ last season with a considerably worse squad and did rather better than alright.
 

Just start with its boring, it’s a fair conclusion and your opinion.  

Edited 26 June 2024 by Dahnsouff

[sylofox]

4 hours ago, Dahnsouff said:

So you are saying this England squad cannot play this ill defined Pep ball? We played ‘it’ last season with a considerably worse squad and did rather better than alright.
 

Just start with its boring, it’s a fair conclusion and your opinion.  

No I'm saying it doesn't suit them all. Kane for one looks lost with it. Yes we did OK with it playing in a way lower standard with as many have said a way stronger squad.

 

But once we was sussed out we struggled. The fact that Southgate seems as stubborn as Enzo says our days seem numbered to me.

[Phenom]

Imagine thinking that a dolt like Southgate can coach “Pepball”