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Cooper - OUT

By Sly, in Leicester City Forum

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Pliskin

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3 minutes ago, Gubbins said:

Where? None of the defenders are up to it, the cms are bottom half standard at best, wingers are poor more than they are good and our only half competent strikers best days were at least 3 years ago. It's not a squad that will 100% go down but there's no where near enough quality to think we could stay up even  remotely comfortably.

This is rubbish. 
 

We’ve demonstrated in periods this is not a bad team, there’s enough to stay up comfortably in my opinion. The problem and CLEAR problem is the complete lack of coaching this team is getting….. there’s nothing at all, the team are as flat as a pancake, the only players busting a gut are those whose personality is to bust a gut….. other then that, the team is lifeless, leaderless and clueless. 
 

A better coach would get this lot more motivated, not make basic errors leading to goals, and set the team up to be a threat at least. We’ve not got an issue scoring goals, because we seem to score plenty, we’ve got an issue with just being in games. All of our issues rest solely at the feet of a frankly abysmal football coach. 

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markko

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23 minutes ago, em9999 said:

I ain't paying 100 quid for me and my son to watch that shit..

 

Would rather paint the hallway 

I need some doing if you are offering!!!

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Gubbins

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4 minutes ago, fox_favourite said:

But none are given the chance by the lack of tactics. 

Whether we are playing out from the back in a relentless low block or playing a hard pressing high line any premier league defence containing a combination of faes, justin, kristiansen and vestergaard  is gonna concede more goals than it scores.

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markko

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I have stuck up for Cooper. Today I could not bring myself to go. Mixture of things one being I thought we would get hammered. As bad as we were, we lost by a goal. We are in a very tough run of games. That is the prem. We are not great. Today no Fatawu or Bounatte. The defence is weak and is not going to improve until we add to it in January. I do think we are better when we have a go but they would have picked us off. RVN is untested. Moyes might come. Potter no chance. It is not all Coopers fault. Look at United. They have had some really good managers as have Everton but there.are structural issues that need sorting otherwise we will be a little better or a little worse. Message to self KTF!!!

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Leicester_Loyal

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36 minutes ago, ozvaldo said:

I cba going anymore whilst he’s still in charge. 

Same, just a waste of a Saturday. Which is annoying as I’ve bought Newcastle away tickets. 
 

I’d genuinely rather watch the games on the firestick or not bother at all atm, wasting the whole day to be served that muck up for £25/£30 everytime is shocking. 

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Clever Fox

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1 minute ago, Happy Fox said:

Ruud Van Nisterooy is class far better than Cooper shite.

Well, He was a great player. Can he carry that over into Management which brings a totally different pressure. Many great players have tried and failed.

 

He certainly has worked for and with some of the Best managers inclding Fergie. 

 

The question is do we get in a proven mamger or take a chance on Ruud. He's probably worth the risk.

Leicester_Loyal

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16 minutes ago, Gubbins said:

Where? None of the defenders are up to it, the cms are bottom half standard at best, wingers are poor more than they are good and our only half competent strikers best days were at least 3 years ago. It's not a squad that will 100% go down but there's no where near enough quality to think we could stay up even  remotely comfortably.

This is nonsense. Give any group of players the right manager mixed with some belief and they can obtain 20+ points. We’ve got a fairly crap group so with a decent manager I think we can easily get 30+ points. 
 

You literally need 6 or 7 good games out of 38. 

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8 minutes ago, winteriscoming said:

Is there a worse manager in this league? I’m struggling apart from me ego at Southampton I’d have any of the other managers in this league than Cooper. 

Martin is a far superior manager to Cooper. He actually has a philosophy/game plan. He just doesn’t have the players and ability to pull it off. Cooper is just hopeless. 

markko

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13 minutes ago, Happy Fox said:

Ruud Van Nisterooy is class far better than Cooper shite.

Is he? He would be a risk. If we were.to her the mext.one wrong we will go down. Moyes may keep us up but don't expect to be entertained.

Lad1966

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I want to see, “Cooper sacked” headline on my notifications.

Top, come on do the right thing, just incase you don’t know what that is - Sack Cooper Now!!!!

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Gubbins

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8 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

This is rubbish. 
 

We’ve demonstrated in periods this is not a bad team, there’s enough to stay up comfortably in my opinion. The problem and CLEAR problem is the complete lack of coaching this team is getting….. there’s nothing at all, the team are as flat as a pancake, the only players busting a gut are those whose personality is to bust a gut….. other then that, the team is lifeless, leaderless and clueless. 
 

A better coach would get this lot more motivated, not make basic errors leading to goals, and set the team up to be a threat at least. We’ve not got an issue scoring goals, because we seem to score plenty, we’ve got an issue with just being in games. All of our issues rest solely at the feet of a frankly abysmal football coach. 

Well I think this is mostly rubbish and you seem to be living in the past regarding the strength of our squad and the strength of other teams, so wel have to agree to disagree. Regardless of manager this team/squad finishes bottom 5 and it wouldn't be comfortable. The team has been flat as a pancake for most of the last 4 years and there's been no real leaders on the pitch for even longer than that. The midfield has no real steel and battle hardened prem midfields will largely overpower it. The defenders are not prem standard and no amount of coaching is gonna stop justin or faes making stupid errors.

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reynard

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1 minute ago, markko said:

Is he? He would be a risk. If we were.to her the mext.one wrong we will go down. Moyes may keep us up but don't expect to be entertained.

Not really that thrilling at the moment is it and we look nailed on to go down.

ceebeefox

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20 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

This is rubbish. 
 

We’ve demonstrated in periods this is not a bad team, there’s enough to stay up comfortably in my opinion. The problem and CLEAR problem is the complete lack of coaching this team is getting….. there’s nothing at all, the team are as flat as a pancake, the only players busting a gut are those whose personality is to bust a gut….. other then that, the team is lifeless, leaderless and clueless. 
 

A better coach would get this lot more motivated, not make basic errors leading to goals, and set the team up to be a threat at least. We’ve not got an issue scoring goals, because we seem to score plenty, we’ve got an issue with just being in games. All of our issues rest solely at the feet of a frankly abysmal football coach. 

Well I would swap squads (and yes managers because he is plainly not up to it) with every side in this league except Southampton, so unless we sign at least 3 top replacements in the new year even Pep wouldn’t keep this squad up.

markko

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Just now, reynard said:

Not really that thrilling at the moment is it and we look nailed on to go down.

West Ham fans not thrilled despite top half finishes and a cup. I think he is a decent manager and knows this league.

fox_favourite

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23 minutes ago, Gubbins said:

Whether we are playing out from the back in a relentless low block or playing a hard pressing high line any premier league defence containing a combination of faes, justin, kristiansen and vestergaard  is gonna concede more goals than it scores.

Maybe so, but having an actual plan and being organised will help. We are neither so we're looking worse on top.of not being good players

Gubbins

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12 minutes ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

This is nonsense. Give any group of players the right manager mixed with some belief and they can obtain 20+ points. We’ve got a fairly crap group so with a decent manager I think we can easily get 30+ points. 
 

You literally need 6 or 7 good games out of 38. 

Maybe we could survive but I don't see it being 'comfortably' and regardless of manager the defenders we have really aren't very good. The only improvement over when we went down last time is the goalkeeper which is negated by being significantly weaker in midfield and upfront.

markko

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17 minutes ago, winteriscoming said:

Is there a worse manager in this league? I’m struggling apart from me ego at Southampton I’d have any of the other managers in this league than Cooper. 

Pep better watch himself as he can't get a result to save his life. If he becomes available I might be willing to give him a go!

Bordersfox

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3 minutes ago, Gubbins said:

Well I think this is mostly rubbish and you seem to be living in the past regarding the strength of our squad and the strength of other teams, so wel have to agree to disagree. Regardless of manager this team/squad finishes bottom 5 and it wouldn't be comfortable. The team has been flat as a pancake for most of the last 4 years and there's been no real leaders on the pitch for even longer than that. The midfield has no real steel and battle hardened prem midfields will largely overpower it. The defenders are not prem standard and no amount of coaching is gonna stop justin or faes making stupid errors.

Battle hardened prem midfielders like, eh Winks, Skipp, Ndidi, Ayew, BDCR?  Our best midfielder has been Facundo anyway who's not that experienced so, yeah, quite a lot of nonsense in your posts on this I'd say.  

 

Nobody is claiming this is a great side.  But it's absolutely smack you in the face obvious that systemically and from a coaching perspective we are going nowhere under Cooper.  

 

A decent manager keeps this squad up, relatively comfortably.  He also drops Faes.

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winteriscoming

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10 minutes ago, Lionator said:

Martin is a far superior manager to Cooper. He actually has a philosophy/game plan. He just doesn’t have the players and ability to pull it off. Cooper is just hopeless. 

Agree. The only advantage with Cooper over Martin is his pl experience. And that’s getting worse every week. 

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