Premier League 2024/25

[hebangsthedrums]

4 minutes ago, foxes_rule1978 said:

He is a fraud, sorry pep has no tactical nous been known for a long time. All good when you have a billion pound squad with some of the all time great players… 

Known by who?

Someone should tell the man city board, wasted the last 8 years with a meagre return

Edited 10 November 2024 by hebangsthedrums

[foxes_rule1978]

Just now, hebangsthedrums said:

Known by who?

Someone should tell the man city board

Okay so he hasn’t had the best players all the time with the biggest cheque book? 

[foxes_rule1978]

Fergie was at Aberdeen, Mourinho Porto, he in my view isn’t close to them just one big fraud and been lucky , first time his expensive players have a couple of injuries and now needs to bring on the other least expensive guys 

Edited 10 November 2024 by foxes_rule1978

[Number 6]

So all those people who learned his ways and went on to be very good managers was pure coincidence?

[Super_horns]

Obviously one of the best ever even if some find his football dull at times .

[murphy]

11 minutes ago, foxes_rule1978 said:

He is a fraud, sorry pep has no tactical nous been known for a long time. All good when you have a billion pound squad with some of the all time great players… he hasn’t managed like Ferguson with Aberdeen, all the teams pep has managed have been built not made by him 

Thing is, the most wealthy and successful club's tend to appoint the best managers.  They don't tend to appoint frauds. 

 

Lots of clubs have tried and failed to buy success.  You can't dismiss what pep has achieved. 

[foxes_rule1978]

8 minutes ago, Number 6 said:

So all those people who learned his ways and went on to be very good managers was pure coincidence?

He is a fraud, trust me, Arteta with his millions being found out, enzo will too same with Kompany… it is easy when you have the worlds best players in your team I could be manage them… none of them have built a team like Fergie or wenger through generations… all I see is they complain 

Edited 10 November 2024 by foxes_rule1978

[FOXSE]

Some people will be thinking 'I can't believe this guy has sat quietly until a set of results come along so he can air his gaudiola grievances' with a complete lack of self awareness......

[foxes_rule1978]

6 minutes ago, murphy said:

Thing is, the most wealthy and successful club's tend to appoint the best managers.  They don't tend to appoint frauds. 

 

Lots of clubs have tried and failed to buy success.  You can't dismiss what pep has achieved. 

He is a fraud sorry, always had the best players and the biggest cheque book… and complains when he needs to use his 70m player over his 80m purchase through injury. Cheque book manager 

Edited 10 November 2024 by foxes_rule1978

[foxfanazer]

22 minutes ago, foxes_rule1978 said:

He is a fraud, sorry pep has no tactical nous been known for a long time. All good when you have a billion pound squad with some of the all time great players… he hasn’t managed like Ferguson with Aberdeen, all the teams pep has managed have been built not made by him 

Even for a match day it's a tad early to start drinking 

[foxes_rule1978]

8 minutes ago, murphy said:

Thing is, the most wealthy and successful club's tend to appoint the best managers.  They don't tend to appoint frauds. 

 

Lots of clubs have tried and failed to buy success.  You can't dismiss what pep has achieved. 

Don’t thumb up to this, tell me a team has pep actually built? like seriously… he isn’t good just a big fraud… and it makes me sick when they try to compare him to ancelotti, Fergie or wenger 

Edited 10 November 2024 by foxes_rule1978

[JimJams]

So he's a fraud yet has completely dominated with the same cheque book that Hughes, Mancini, Pellegrini couldn't dominate with.

 

 

[JimJams]

5 minutes ago, foxes_rule1978 said:

Don’t thumb up to this, tell me a team has pep actually built? like seriously 

What like last seasons title winning squad that was signed in it's entirety by Pep?  With KDB the only arguable outlier as he was signed before Peps arrival with it being common knowledge that Guardiola sanctioned the buy.

[foxes_rule1978]

2 minutes ago, JimJams said:

So he's a fraud yet has completely dominated with the same cheque book that Hughes, Mancini, Pellegrini couldn't dominate with.

 

 

Right tell me, what dynasty has he built, he just had the best teams at the right time.. not his building. Laugh at me all you want it is true… the biggest cheque book teams 

Edited 10 November 2024 by foxes_rule1978

[RumbleFox]

29 minutes ago, foxes_rule1978 said:

He is a fraud, sorry pep has no tactical nous been known for a long time. All good when you have a billion pound squad with some of the all time great players… he hasn’t managed like Ferguson with Aberdeen, all the teams pep has managed have been built not made by him 

Oh I see, you’re one of THOSE types of posters, my apologies. Assumed you’d be a bit old for that but my fault, sorry. As you were. 

[StanSP]

46 minutes ago, RowlattsFox said:

Southampton unlucky with the 2 decisions I thought. No Wolves complaints about VAR this week. 

Just seeing the disallowed goal. Seemed pretty clear cut that it was a foul. Semedo gets his body between the ball and the player to protect the ball, Fernandes (?) goes straight through him. Anywhere else on the pitch and it's a foul. 

[foxes_rule1978]

When you are a manger of a billion pound squad you don’t complain about injuries..  

[goose2010]

40 minutes ago, foxes_rule1978 said:

Wenger built a team several times over and so did Fergie..  yeah I hate both teams but those are proper mangers.. pep just had a chequebook and used it well… not near wenger or Ferguson in terms of ability in my view 

You do realise that Fergie and Wenger both spent massive amounts too? 

 

 

[Super_horns]

On the BBC text and final score the pundits certainly thought the Southampton one was a foul so you have ex professionals with different views to those on MOTD.

Again comes down to the main crux that VAR is simply too subjective although clearly there are still some howlers made.

 

Was it enough to judge as a clear and obvious error ?

Same for the Wolves allowed one - potentially fouls but not obvious .

 

Edited 10 November 2024 by Super_horns

[Samilktray]

Personally think Alex Ferguson was a fraud and Wenger was just a French Claude puel 

[foxfanazer]

1 minute ago, foxes_rule1978 said:

When you are a manger of a billion pound squad you don’t complain about injuries..  

I agree on this part. But they all do it

[RowlattsFox]

2 minutes ago, StanSP said:

Just seeing the disallowed goal. Seemed pretty clear cut that it was a foul. Semedo gets his body between the ball and the player to protect the ball, Fernandes (?) goes straight through him. Anywhere else on the pitch and it's a foul. 

He doesn't get his body in front of the ball, he chucks his leg in front of a on rushing player, if anything Semedo fouls the Southampton player. 

[The Doctor]

Well, this is one prolonged breakdown...

 

Having a billion pound checkbook helps teams establish at the top end, but look at the succession of man utd managers have had in the same time period. Or chelsea for that matter. Both have spent significantly more than Man City have in the last decade and what have they got to show for it? far fewer trophies than Man City have. Anyone claiming Guardiola is a fraud who just relys on outspending the competition is divorced from reality.

[JimJams]

2 minutes ago, RowlattsFox said:

He doesn't get his body in front of the ball, he chucks his leg in front of a on rushing player, if anything Semedo fouls the Southampton player. 

I agree. Semedo doesn't have possession or control of the ball, he just throws himself in the players path. Which to me is impeding the attacker.  I can see how that can be interpreted both ways, which is why the on-field decision should have stood.

[RowlattsFox]

You can debate whether Pep is the 'best ever' but who really cares, aa always its impossible to compare eras. But you can't deny he is one the greats. 

 

Yes he's been helped by money, who wouldn't be, but the thing that stands out for me is redefining of positions, you only have to see how many have followed, probably to their detriment.

Players generally get better under him too and he doesn't exactly go out and buy ready made stars all the time. 

Edited 10 November 2024 by RowlattsFox