Odsonne Edouard joins on loan - Official

[Vowels]

BDCR gets a lot of abuse but providing he's a squad player, I think he has value; with a bit of energy late in games. I think he's a decent player. Whether RVN really rates him is what will matter.

[Kasey Keller]

8 hours ago, Gravel said:

Has he gone yet?

Missed the door on the way out 

[StanSP]

'loan fee was significant'. 

 

GET RUDKIN OUT. 

 

 

[Iwebema]

1 minute ago, StanSP said:

'loan fee was significant'. 

 

GET RUDKIN OUT. 

 

 

Would a recall invalidate some of the fee? Not 100% on how it works.

[moore_94]

6 minutes ago, Iwebema said:

Would a recall invalidate some of the fee? Not 100% on how it works.

As it it us wanting to cancel I expect we wouldn’t get anything back - might even cost us more

[lcfc_forever]

From what I read, we can still get loan players from abroad where the cap is six players - is that correct? This still screws us in the domestic market. 

Edited 6 January by lcfc_forever

[Finnegan]

5 minutes ago, Iwebema said:

Would a recall invalidate some of the fee? Not 100% on how it works.

 

Depends how it's structured. 

 

If we paid a lump sum, no, if we're paying in installments every month he's here then maybe? 

 

Either way, there isn't really much incentive on them to recall him unless they want to register him which they won't. 

 

You'd recall a young player that you wanted to gain match experience if he wasn't getting enough game time. You don't recall a guy you were desperate to get off your wage bill. 

 

What is of significance, however, is that the rules state we cannot register more than two loans. 

 

This does mean, unless I'm mistaken, we could deregister Edouard without sending him back and loan another player to register in the squad. 

 

That would be more expense piling up though and if we have to sell to buy already then I can't imagine the board approving that. 

 

[moore_94]

We have absolutely f**ked it with Edouard

 

Because he has played for us and Palace this season he now can’t play for anyone else, so it isn’t even a case of us having to find a new club to take over the loan

 

We need Palace to want him back or we are stuck with him

[Raj]

Another Rudkin masterclass!

[Finnegan]

6 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

We have absolutely f**ked it with Edouard

 

Because he has played for us and Palace this season he now can’t play for anyone else, so it isn’t even a case of us having to find a new club to take over the loan

 

We need Palace to want him back or we are stuck with him

 

Everything except Bilal was an absolute cluster **** about this summer. 

 

The absolute opposite of the summer before. 

 

Illustrates how over reliant we are on the manager to dictate transfer philosophy. 

 

We're desperate for a sporting director. At this point I don't even care if Rudkin stays. We can just move him upwards or sideways or whatever else they want to do. Just employ someone to do what a DOF does at every other ****ing club. 

 

Edited 6 January by Finnegan

[ronnup]

Laughable this...absolute joke

[les-tah]

Rudkin truly fvcks us in every negotiation possible. We should never of loaned anyone that doesn’t drastically improve our starting 11. We need to just make it worthwhile for palace sending him back with some form of severance even if its a couple of million. Then at least we can loan someone that improves us in a relegation battle.

Edited 6 January by les-tah

[Tommy G]

4 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

Everything except Bilal was an absolute cluster **** about this summer. 

 

The absolute opposite of the summer before. 

 

Illustrates how over reliant we are on the manager to dictate transfer philosophy. 

 

We're desperate for a sporting director. At this point I don't even care if Rudkin stays. We can just move him upwards or sideways or whatever else they want to do. Just employ someone to do whay a DOF does at every other ****ing club. 

 

Ayew hasn't turned out to be too bad when used correctly. But it's really clutching at straws. 

 

Buonanotte is a fantastic loan signing but he isn't our player. 

[Foxin_Mad]

This another prime example why Jon Rudkin the useless **** should be down the dole centre. Just **** off you worthless piece of dogshit. 

[Noahfence]

THERESSS ONLYYY ONEEE JONNY RUDKIN 

[Mickyblueeyes]

 what else can you do. 

[Finnegan]

5 minutes ago, Tommy G said:

Ayew hasn't turned out to be too bad when used correctly. But it's really clutching at straws. 

 

Buonanotte is a fantastic loan signing but he isn't our player. 

 

It's still a 33 year old we're obligated to pay millions to for two seasons. 

 

We're finally getting rid of all these hangers on we've had stuck on the payroll for years and we respond by hiring Ayew and BDCR because "ExPeRiEnCe."

 

Stupid. 

[AKCJ]

Is it not still worth paying his wage at Palace? That extra loan spot could be massive. They don't need to have him in their squad.

[Foxin_Mad]

Who actually wanted Edouard? seems Cooper didnt want him, just why did we sign him? what for? who? Tom Cannon despite Coopers weird hate of him could have done more and cost nowt.

 

This sums up the utter incompetence of the football operations at the club. When we re relegated they had better have a top to bottom clear out or the lengthy rebuild process. 

Edited 6 January by Foxin_Mad

[orangecity23]

So we loaned Luke Thomas out to a PL team last season, and allowed a clause to enable them to terminate it on January. But didn't manage to get one for ourselves when loaning a player this season. Quality negotiation as always.

[moore_94]

Significant loan fee for someone that Palace didn’t even want (and seemingly no one else wanted either) is hilarious as well

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

2 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

It's still a 33 year old we're obligated to pay millions to for two seasons. 

 

We're finally getting rid of all these hangers on we've had stuck on the payroll for years and we respond by hiring Ayew and BDCR because "ExPeRiEnCe."

 

Stupid. 

 

Yeah, people like to say "when will people admit Ayew was a good signing !!!!!" he cost us c. £8 million – I refuse to believe we couldn't have gone to a market like Scandinavia and picked up someone a lot younger, on an upward trajectory and with *heaven forbid* sell-on value for around the same price. Nanasi cost Strasbourg around the same ffs. 

[daddylonglegs]

it does make you just want to throw the towel in when your most senior member of staff is this incompetent. the club's basically built in his image these days, a total mess.

[les-tah]

7 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

Is it not still worth paying his wage at Palace? That extra loan spot could be massive. They don't need to have him in their squad.

I think its absolutely critical. We wont be buying that many so the loan market could save us from relegation in key positions in the 11 that are lacking.

[Mickyblueeyes]

2 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

Significant loan fee for someone that Palace didn’t even want (and seemingly no one else wanted either) is hilarious as well

This is the bit I dont understand. When negotiating, what is it that we are paying the significant sum for and why is always us ? Palace did not want him. In fact Palace needed to get rid to get Nketiah in. So why are we paying significant sums of the clubs money to get in a striker who wasnt wanted. He could've gone the other way and been an absolute star for us but the reality is, at the time of getting him across, he wasnt a highly sought after player - they are now risking the clubs future by these ridiculous decisions. 

 

There is no foward planning. There is no contigency. There is no risk awareness. Its not incompetence any more, its negligence.