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If by hook or crook RVN takes some of the toxic down with him then good. Player power and board power is fvckin is over anyway so he might aswell go all scorched earth on us for the great reset.

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19 minutes ago, 87fox said:

Wow. There's a lot to unpick there.

Percy gets it:
 

Average players have earned lucrative contracts and become almost impossible to move on. One player who was not a regular starter saw his salary rise to £100,000 a week from around £70,000, following promotion from the Championship.

 

Players appear comfortable and unchallenged, with some allegedly having a direct line to Srivaddhanaprabha. This is a club which allows at least two first-team players to commute every day from over 90 miles away.

Conor Coady 

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4 minutes ago, Gevans_97 said:

I agree, but that conversation has to happen in a different setting surely? Take him aside during/after training, not lay into him in front of the whole squad immediately after a loss that he’s not even been a part of? 

We are having the information out of context - it may be a number of issues which have built up and a private word has been had. 

 

Reminds of that clip between Kompany & the Burnley player - in isolation it looks awful treatment but when more information was given to the story, it was a more understandable reaction. 

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22 minutes ago, AjcW said:

Daka the first one

 

Vardy and Coady the second

 

lol 

Vardy doesn't commute 90+ miles. Unless he doesn't have a sat nav.

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I for one agree, back the manager. Time for some of these soft, self-entitled overpaid c-units to get brought back down to earth. 

 

Board/Rudkin needs to go for the absolute joke of some of these players wages and contract lengths but for now, we need some stability and someone to clear the decks ready for next season.

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Just now, FoxesBraun said:

I like this - players need a reality check. 

 

Although I don't like that stuff like this keeps being made public. There's clearly a rat or two in there. 

I think there is clearly more than one or two bad apples in the dressing room.  

 

Ruud needs to go full Falling Down on these gimps.  

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Just now, CosbehFox said:

He's Dutch - they don't accept fools. Very to the point. 

I think this is a reason a lot of Dutch managers have struggled in England actually.
 

There have always been bigger issues at Man United obviously, but LVG and Ten Hag definitely had problems with the English media because their personality didn’t mix well with it and probably the general pandering to players in this country. 
 

Koeman also seemed to struggle with the dressing room at Everton. 

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I’d rather Ruud stay than Top at this point. Someone his trying to change the culture and put these players in their place. 
 

It’s exactly who we need at this point, no crap to be taken
 

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19 minutes ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

It would appear Ruud is losing the plot or maybe trying to replicate Fergie’s hair dryer treatment, but what I would also say is it shows just how pampered these millionaire players have become. 
 

We are on a run of 7 straight league defeats and the players are running off crying and snivelling to any fecker that will listen at how they have been shouted at, poor little diddums. Get in the real fecking world, this is elite sport with high stakes, if you are well rewarded then expect to be called out when you aren’t performing. 
 

sums this shitshow of a club for what it really is. Rip it up and start again. 

Best post on this thread 😅👌🏼 the modern world peeps can't take constructive criticism anymore How is what ruuds done headline news? 😂🤣 just soft as shit & cry about everything that doesn't go their way. World of no accountability. pearson/o'neil woulda done 100 times worse to build learning curves/character development/strength or for a simple jolt up the backside, at the risk of sounding like a oap god I hate modern footy 😂

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19 minutes ago, teblin said:

Bit of both here, maybe it’s the players not fans that are the entitled ones.

 

Too much money, doesn’t actually matter to them enough.

 

Also the manager is losing the plot so it seems. Or can’t install what he wants due to player attitudes.

Let’s face it, we’d all lose the plot with a bunch of mentally weak losers who cry off to their gaslighting daddy’s in the board room at the first sign of reality hitting them in the face. 

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Lucrative contracts handed out too easily with all the luxuries of a top training facility and next to no pressure to perform. They’ve got everything they could want - all the comforts they need, but all that's happened is they've got no hunger to improve. And if they are pushed to hard by the manager - they cry about it. 

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I should say that it's proper alarming that this stuff doesn't happen and stay inside the dressing room.

 

There's a seriously toxic atmosphere at the club where everyone thinks they deserve more than they get.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

Last manager who did this was Nige. Matt Mills, Beckford, Danns etc. all on big contracts for the level. All thought they were bigger/better than the club. 
 

This football club NEEDS this. 

Pearson got rid of those players, and rightly so, I highly doubt he went around screaming at players who didn't play though. Pearson's man management was second to none.

 

Since then though Vestergaard was reported to be made to train with the reserves under Rodgers, he even did an interview criticising Rodgers at the time, yet people chose to back the player because they didn't like the manager. 

 

Rodgers spoke of a "refresh" years ago, which never happened (not a surprise), and again people laughed at him for saying it.

 

The players have far to much power at the club. Even all the way back to the sacking of Ranieri. 

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1 minute ago, 21st Century Fox said:

I'd imagine the Dyche or Moyes crowd would be lapping his kind of confrontation and discipline up.

I'd rather take a spoon to my own eyeballs than have Dyche or Moyes, personally. 

 

But the culture in this dressing room, which seems to be encouraged from the top, doesn't seem good.   Getting sick of this team rolling over to have its belly tickled by teams like Fulham.  

 

No way should players be having a direct line to the owner to whine.  How is any organisation supposed to function coherently in that way?

 

 

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