Ruud van Nistelrooy - New Manager - Official

[TheGoldenGod]

6 hours ago, Gubbins said:

It's been such disastrous form though I don't think you can keep him for next season. It's akin to Derby keeping Jewell when they went down and they started the next season in exactly the same way and he was eventually sacked. It's also likely wel be stuck with the vast majority of crap players that RvN has been failing to get any tune out of. We have got to ditch him at the end of the season and get a proper manager in.

Contracted until 2027. We're not sacking someone else with all this guff about PSR. Unless he walks, he'll be our manager next season and I'm fine with that if he's backed. Needs to integrate the kids though and change up the system otherwise I'll be joining others soon.

[winteriscoming]

6 hours ago, TheGoldenGod said:

Contracted until 2027. We're not sacking someone else with all this guff about PSR. Unless he walks, he'll be our manager next season and I'm fine with that if he's backed. Needs to integrate the kids though and change up the system otherwise I'll be joining others soon.

He’s not the one to get us back up. What is there to suggest he’ll play youth next season or sooner when he persists with the dad’s army front 3? 

[Clever Fox]

20 hours ago, Graceroad said:

Im not a Cooper fan especially  just don't think  he deserves the stick he gets, Sorry if I have a different opinion  to you.

He was a disaster here. He said he didn't mind losing pre season friendlies, Then continues to lose when the season started.

Then he says something like he expects players to know how to play the game.

 

His signings are the reason we're in such a mess now.

 

Ruud is having to work with his failings.

[Pliskin]

He will walk I think. He has form for it. 

[Gubbins]

13 minutes ago, Clever Fox said:

He was a disaster here. He said he didn't mind losing pre season friendlies, Then continues to lose when the season started.

Then he says something like he expects players to know how to play the game.

 

His signings are the reason we're in such a mess now.

 

Ruud is having to work with his failings.

Surely it's Glovers signings that are to blame. I'm not having that Cooper specifically demanded all of Reid ayew and skipp. Glover gets off far lighter than he should. The only player recruited since he's been here who wel make a profit on is hermansen. He's yet another one who needs booting out.

[filbertway]

27 minutes ago, Gubbins said:

Surely it's Glovers signings that are to blame. I'm not having that Cooper specifically demanded all of Reid ayew and skipp. Glover gets off far lighter than he should. The only player recruited since he's been here who wel make a profit on is hermansen. He's yet another one who needs booting out.

Bilal and Abdul as well probably.

 

It's a tough one because Cooper was quote so so so soooo many times that he wanted "Premier league experience" so when we sign players that fit exactly what he's asked for then it's hard not to attribute those signings to him.

 

This isn't in defence of Glover, his last 3 jobs have all been with clubs that have struggled during his time there. So he's either not too great at getting his own way or he's not very good at identifying talent for the club to sign.

[orangecity23]

Skipp has to be a Cooper demand, he's one of his England u17 players, and Cooper has had a pattern of signing those players everywhere he's been.

[Iwebema]

15 minutes ago, filbertway said:

Bilal and Abdul as well probably.

 

It's a tough one because Cooper was quote so so so soooo many times that he wanted "Premier league experience" so when we sign players that fit exactly what he's asked for then it's hard not to attribute those signings to him.

 

This isn't in defence of Glover, his last 3 jobs have all been with clubs that have struggled during his time there. So he's either not too great at getting his own way or he's not very good at identifying talent for the club to sign.

It will be on all of them. It's never down to one single individual.

 

The rough process is, manager, coaches, DOF and recruitment team will sit down and analyse the squad and agree on positions of need and then other more explicit traits (we need pace, leadership, experience etc.)

 

Recruitment team will draw up lists of players that meet the criteria in a variety of ways and then the manager and DOF agree to who they want, priority list (i.e. if we bring in X thats a cheap deal that ticks off these areas and means we have more to spend on Y) and leave it with the DOF to negotiate.

 

I appreciate it won't be as linear and easy as that. But that's broadly the process.

 

Steve Walsh was sacked for spending 150m at Everton and they were rubbish, but his counter argument was he recommended a large pool of players that delivered what the manager and DOF asked for, they just picked the wrong ones. I think he said he recommended Haaland and Andy Robertson but the manager and DOF decided to buy different players, but Walsh ultimately was blamed. Which is still probably fair as he did also recommend the shite they bought ha.

[Dan]

1 hour ago, Pliskin said:

He will walk I think. He has form for it. 

He'll be gone within 24 hours of the Bournemouth game, with the team relegated. I think he's mentally clocked out here. Which I almost don't blame him for and the longer time goes on you can see why it happened with Rodgers too.

 

I haven't been impressed at all by Ruud. He's made us overly structured going forward while failing to address the defence. We've looked a bit more solid than under Cooper but I think a sad truth is we're going to concede goals no matter what. The Buonanotte thing is his biggest failing. He was very good under Cooper and he's been a complete waste of time since he's gone. I think he thrived in the lack of attacking structure if anything.

[dayday]

It’s hard to judge Ruud, let’s be honest he hasn’t got a great squad to pick from 

 

 

[JimJams]

1 hour ago, Pliskin said:

He will walk I think. He has form for it. 

Does doing something once constitute form?

 

[Pliskin]

2 minutes ago, JimJams said:

Does doing something once constitute form?

 

One more than not doing it. 

[lcfc_forever]

1 hour ago, Gubbins said:

Surely it's Glovers signings that are to blame. I'm not having that Cooper specifically demanded all of Reid ayew and skipp. Glover gets off far lighter than he should. The only player recruited since he's been here who wel make a profit on is hermansen. He's yet another one who needs booting out.

He asked for Ayew and Skipp for sure, and it was reported he wanted PL experience. 

 

Not clear if Reid was a Cooper demand. 

 

Glover's recruitment in Summer 2024 was pretty good, most of those signings made a positive contribution. From what I remember, Enzo pushed for Winks and Doyle, which are arguably the worst signings (along with Jannik's 3-year contract).

 

Highlights the problem with the club - too much power given to managers, and we keep chopping and changing instead of having a competent Director of Football who sets the longer-term recruitment strategy. 

[Royston.]

Depends whether Top was honest and told Ruud we are ****ed by PSR so its a sell/get rid before buy situation.

 

If so, Ruud was happy to sign and ok with potentially being relegated.

 

It will be that "plying your trade at a lower level" that several people have mentioned he needs.

 

Obviously I'd rather he quit right now but we dont always get what we want

[Parafox]

1 minute ago, Royston. said:

Depends whether Top was honest and told Ruud we are ****ed by PSR so its a sell/get rid before buy situation.

 

If so, Ruud was happy to sign and ok with potentially being relegated.

 

It will be that "plying your trade at a lower level" that several people have mentioned he needs.

 

Obviously I'd rather he quit right now but we dont always get what we want

 

I heard from someone ITK, that Whelan told RvN on the Wednesday before the Everton game that there was no money for buying players. Until then, he believed there would be.

 

He certainly seemed despondent and ticked off as he stood on the side-lines during that game.

[Royston.]

1 minute ago, Parafox said:

 

I heard from someone ITK, that Whelan told RvN on the Wednesday before the Everton game that there was no money for buying players. Until then, he believed there would be.

 

He certainly seemed despondent and ticked off as he stood on the side-lines during that game.

Didnt Ruud himself say something about being aware of the situation as far back as November?

 

 

 

 

sexy football, lies and video tapes of Rudkin playing "hide the pencil"

[mod hero]

7 minutes ago, Parafox said:

 

I heard from someone ITK, that Whelan told RvN on the Wednesday before the Everton game that there was no money for buying players. Until then, he believed there would be.

 

He certainly seemed despondent and ticked off as he stood on the side-lines during that game.

Not surprised, we’d lost after 10 seconds

[Foxin_Mad]

3 hours ago, winteriscoming said:

He’s not the one to get us back up. What is there to suggest he’ll play youth next season or sooner when he persists with the dad’s army front 3? 

It’s a completely different situation.

 

The FACT is however much you criticise dads army they are the best front 3 we currently have. His remit is to stay up so he will play who he thinks are the best players. I happen to agree the other options have proven they aren’t good enough. 
 

A rebuild and promotion, building a structure, style etc is a totally different project. I doubt we get anyone decent until we get a decent DOF as no one will want to work under Rudkin

[Parafox]

3 minutes ago, mod hero said:

Not surprised, we’d lost after 10 seconds

 

It's rumoured he lost motivation and was unable to lift the players prior to KO and at HT.

[Chown]

2 hours ago, Clever Fox said:

He was a disaster here. He said he didn't mind losing pre season friendlies, Then continues to lose when the season started.

Then he says something like he expects players to know how to play the game.

 

His signings are the reason we're in such a mess now.

 

Ruud is having to work with his failings.

Cooper managed 6 PL home games. Leicester scored in all 6. Were 16th in the league when he got sacked.

 

Under RvN we have lost the last 5 PL home games without scoring once. We have gone from 16th to 19th as the team has stopped scoring at home every match since the manager change.

 

How can some fans still blindly say RvN is better than Cooper when all evidence shows this is nonsense? Even if Cooper is as terrible as some say, how can you suggest RvN is an upgrade? How?

[Foxin_Mad]

Just now, Parafox said:

 

It's rumoured he lost motivation and was unable to lift the players prior to KO and at HT.

To be honest it’s perfectly reasonable operating under the utterly inept management at the club.

[Foxin_Mad]

2 minutes ago, Chown said:

Cooper managed 6 PL home games. Leicester scored in all 6. Were 16th in the league when he got sacked.

 

Under RvN we have lost the last 5 PL home games without scoring once. We have gone from 16th to 19th as the team has stopped scoring at home every match since the manager change.

 

How can some fans still blindly say RvN is better than Cooper when all evidence shows this is nonsense? Even if Cooper is as terrible as some say, how can you suggest RvN is an upgrade? How?

I think the rot was setting in with Cooper we were getting worse game on game, our good results were nothing to do with him and I think the scoring flowed through from the previous season. 

[winteriscoming]

3 minutes ago, Foxin_Mad said:

It’s a completely different situation.

 

The FACT is however much you criticise dads army they are the best front 3 we currently have. His remit is to stay up so he will play who he thinks are the best players. I happen to agree the other options have proven they aren’t good enough. 
 

A rebuild and promotion, building a structure, style etc is a totally different project. I doubt we get anyone decent until we get a decent DOF as no one will want to work under Rudkin

They are not the best front 3 we have. 
It’s not saying a lot but Mavidi, Bounatte and Vardy are. His obsession with experienced pl players is shocking. 

[Foxin_Mad]

Just now, winteriscoming said:

They are not the best front 3 we have. 
It’s not saying a lot but Mavidi, Bounatte and Vardy are. His obsession with experienced pl players is shocking. 

Mavividi is utter dog shit I’m sorry, he runs, does a crap step over loses it, huffs and puffs, jogs back nonchalantly. He’s played and was wank. I’d like to see Facundo play but he’s not a wide player. He does also give the ball away quite a bit.

 

I can see why we have the team we have, if we lose the ball, it puts our crap defence under pressure, so we need to try to keep the ball better. Mavividi certainly doesn’t do that. As soon as he came on Saturday we conceded as Ayew worked much harder.
 

With Facundos finishing I’d be tempted to stick him as a 9

 

The facts are this squad is not a Premier League squad sadly

[winteriscoming]

2 minutes ago, Foxin_Mad said:

Mavividi is utter dog shit I’m sorry, he runs, does a crap step over loses it, huffs and puffs, jogs back nonchalantly. He’s played and was wank. I’d like to see Facundo play but he’s not a wide player. He does also give the ball away quite a bit.

 

I can see why we have the team we have, if we lose the ball, it puts our crap defence under pressure, so we need to try to keep the ball better. Mavividi certainly doesn’t do that. As soon as he came on Saturday we conceded as Ayew worked much harder.
 

With Facundos finishing I’d be tempted to stick him as a 9

 

The facts are this squad is not a Premier League squad sadly

I agree that the squad clearly isn’t premier league quality. But I want to see something different tactically 3-5-2 and or with the personnel. You can’t keep doing the same thing with the same players and expect us to turn it around. 9 defeats from 10 games. 
Doing the same thing and expecting a different outcome is baffling.