West Ham home. Tuesday night.

[Stuntman_Mike]

I'm not convinced the atmosphere is going to reflect the importance of this fixture. 

 

Getting off to a positive start under Ruud, rather than the feeling of 'same old, same old' is really important to giving us a proper lift. There's been zero momentum all season. 

 

[StriderHiryu]

4 hours ago, AjcW said:

Not sure why anyone is bothering with these back 3/5 line ups.

 

He's Dutch, they have one system, one ethos, he will stick to it, that's why he's be brought in as the players liked that about Enzo. 

 

It'll be 4-3-3

He will want us to press 

 

 

 

That is definitely true, but at PSV, they often built up with a 3 man shape. That's why sometimes even the Dutch refer to their own 433 as a 3133 in certain phases:

 

 

The system is all about creating triangles, which as you say is the Johan Cruyff 433 DNA that the dutch are famous for:

 

 

^ In this case you can see that one CDM came in deep to help the build up, whereas the other drifted to the right to create a possible passing triangle on the other wide of the pitch.

 

Ruud exploited our full backs pushing up against Man United and we got hit hard again by Brentford on the weekend. I think this will be the number one thing he addresses as he has already taked about bringing some ideas defensively to the way we play. This could involve restricting the full backs from raiding, or defending in such a way to force the opposition down the opposite side on our counter press if we lose the ball, to give the full back more time to get back. Or it could involve better cover through adjusting the positioning of the CDMs. I am sure he will come up with something!

 

In general though, you are bang on that it will be a 433. He could get El Khanouss and Buonanotte into the team that way, whilst also keeping us defensively stable, but I am not sure if he will go that way in game one.

 

 

Edited 2 December 2024 by StriderHiryu

[AjcW]

3 minutes ago, StriderHiryu said:

 

That is definitely true, but at PSV, they often built up with a 3 man shape. That's why sometimes even the Dutch refer to their own 433 as a 3133 in certain phases:

 

 

The system is all about creating triangles, which as you say is the Johan Cruyff 433 DNA that the dutch are famous for:

 

 

^ In this case you can see that one CDM came in deep to help the build up, whereas the other drifted to the right to create a possible passing triangle on the other wide of the pitch.

 

Ruud exploited our full backs pushing up against Man United and we got hot hard again by Brentford on the weekend. I think this will be the number one thing he addresses as he has already taked about bringing some ideas defensively to the way we play. This could involve restricting the full backs from raiding, or defending in such a way to force the opposition down the opposite side on our counter press if we lose the ball, to give the full back more time to get back. Or it could involve better cover through adjusting the positioning of the CDMs. I am sure he will come up with something!

 

In general though, you are bang on that it will be a 433. He could get El Khanouss and Buonanotte into the team that way, whilst also keeping us defensively stable, but I am not sure if he will go that way in game one.

Yes you've put it much better than me as usual  

 

I think I made a point a post or so after about one of the wing backs essentially playing in midfield on the build up. 

 

Intruigued either way, i'm looking forward to tomorrow night and i've not felt like that since last season. 

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

Can't see past a comfortable West Ham win to kickstart the Lopetegui era. They'll score at least 2 from set pieces because the average height of our team is sub-Ronnie Corbett

[Trav Le Bleu]

21 minutes ago, Stuntman_Mike said:

I'm not convinced the atmosphere is going to reflect the importance of this fixture. 

 

Getting off to a positive start under Ruud, rather than the feeling of 'same old, same old' is really important to giving us a proper lift. There's been zero momentum all season. 

 

It would be good if we can have the proverbial 12th man there.

 

Forget Rudkin out for the time being, that can come later. No negative vibes please.

[Parker Pen]

I think the most important thing on the back of three straight defeats is to not lose. So if that means sorting out the defensive shape in game1 of the Ruud era then so be it.

 

We need to be looking at 6 or 7 points in the next 5 games if we are going to give ourselves a fighting chance of staying up!

[John rayner]

10 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

It would be good if we can have the proverbial 12th man there.

 

Forget Rudkin out for the time being, that can come later. No negative vibes please.

Agreed 👍 

[Ted Maul]

Just seen that this is an 8:15 kick off? Horrendous. Be empty by 85 minutes 

[Tommy G]

Just now, Ted Maul said:

Just seen that this is an 8:15 kick off? Horrendous. Be empty by 85 minutes 

Need to get home for bed rather than Strictly Come Dancing 

[StriderHiryu]

39 minutes ago, AjcW said:

Yes you've put it much better than me as usual  

 

I think I made a point a post or so after about one of the wing backs essentially playing in midfield on the build up. 

 

Intruigued either way, i'm looking forward to tomorrow night and i've not felt like that since last season. 

He did this against Ajax in the league game he beat them in, but went a different way when Gakpo left with van Aanholt joining the attack and Xavi Simmons moving in centrally in the cup. These were things that made me come round on Ruud - he's doing some sophisticated things and getting results doing it. Cooper said he tried to replicate the way Villa play under Emery, but did it without understanding how he achieved it, hence looking all at sea.

 

The elephant in the room is if the squad is good enough though. There's an argument to just keep things simple but stable given the team we have. Lining up with Faes, Thomas and Soumare ended about as predictably as it sounds on paper.

[Granfan]

More  accuracy,  awareness,  activity and a positive mindset   

Less  dithering,  backing off, wild shots and feeling like a loser 

[Lako42]

15 minutes ago, Ted Maul said:

Just seen that this is an 8:15 kick off? Horrendous. Be empty by 85 minutes 

Yep, Ruud going to get the perfect Leicester experience  

 

I'm not going so that I can avoid leaving early. 

[tickler28]

I think we're going to have to get used to losing for a while longer until Ruud has had time and the Jan window opens. Until then we have to many issues to resolve and not enough decent players to resolve them with sadly

[SK3Blue]

If they want the place full, don’t make a midweek 8.15 kick off, 3 weeks before Christmas v West Ham a category B game.  Assholes! 

[Lako42]

2 minutes ago, SK3Blue said:

If they want the place full, don’t make a midweek 8.15 kick off, 3 weeks before Christmas v West Ham a category B game.  Assholes! 

Hilarious that Brighton (a much better side and club) is a cat C with a nicer 2pm start  

Edited 2 December 2024 by Lako42

[Lako42]

Wow, I've just seen how many tickets are available....

 

 

All over the stadium, empty seats in every block. The family stand is going to look empty. 

 

 

Edited 2 December 2024 by Lako42

[VLC86]

2 minutes ago, Lako42 said:

Wow, I've just seen how many tickets are available....

 

 

All over the stadium, empty seats in every block. The family stand is going to look empty. 

 

 

I’m absolutely shocked that the Priority 1 Thai influencers and their children behind me at Brentford don’t fancy this.

[AjcW]

6 minutes ago, Lako42 said:

Wow, I've just seen how many tickets are available....

 

 

All over the stadium, empty seats in every block. The family stand is going to look empty. 

 

 

But but but.... family club

[Happy Fox]

RVN's comments from his pre match presser some of them.

 

 

What convinced you?

“When the approach was first there, you think about the club, the set-up, the players. You want to know about the people who work there and Enzo knew, what better information to get. We spoke after Chelsea and he was really positive. He was absolutely right according to the first impressions I get.”

 

Proud?

“A lot. To be managing this club and this group of players and representing Leicester City, I’m proud. The conversations I had, twice I flew out to London to speak to the owner, it was important to get on the same page. We are excited to start working together.”

 

Training ground?

“It’s amazing. Everybody tells you how great the facilities are. It’s hard to believe. I met Ancelotti in Madrid last year, but if you changed the logos, it’s similar. It’s an opportunity for the players and young players to get better.”

 

Obsession with defensive structure?

“It manifests in meetings, in drills on the training pitch. Yesterday and today it has been a topic of discussion. How can the back four play together with the sixes in front, who’s running, who’s following who, body positions, etc. There’s a lot of detail in there. Today was the first time we had the whole group together.”

 

Pick players up?

“That is what needed to be done. Sunday was the first time that I was here. Was it yesterday? It feels longer. I met the players and staff and everybody who is here. I had a meeting with the players and it was the first thing to address. The situation we’re in, the challenge we face and what’s necessary to get out. The results in recent weeks, it’s about reacting. We need clarity in how we’re going to do things. With two days it’s difficult to make too many changes, but we have started to make changes on how we want things.”

 

January transfers?

“That was a topic of discussion. The two conversations were very open and clear. It’s important to know how things are in the near future and the further future. January was discussed. The current squad was discussed. I have to have a good assessment over the coming weeks ahead of January, giving every player a chance. I’m working with people at the club but I’m looking to bring in other people.”

[moore_94]

RVN Pre-Match Press Conference vs Man Utd

 

What convinced you?

“When the approach was first there, you think about the club, the set-up, the players. You want to know about the people who work there and Enzo knew, what better information to get. We spoke after Chelsea and he was really positive. He was absolutely right according to the first impressions I get.”
 

Proud?

“A lot. To be managing this club and this group of players and representing Leicester City, I’m proud. The conversations I had, twice I flew out to London to speak to the owner, it was important to get on the same page. We are excited to start working together.”
 

United?

“It was a good period, short and intense. I was happy to help steady the ship. They’re now on a run of good results. I enjoyed being responsible and getting a connection with the team. That felt great to do. I’m now in a position to do it again.”
 

Vardy record?

“It’s a problem of course that he broke my record! That’s what I told him straight away. That was the first thing I said to him. I beat him commenting on it. I wished him well at the time. It’s weird how things go sometimes.”
 

United put you in limelight?

“What happened after the games, the amount of interest that was there for me, I was astonished. It was only four games. I had managed a full season at PSV and won the cup. I’ve been in coaching for a while. It had never got this reaction from the football world. It provoked this reaction and I was happy with that. I had conversations with different parties and made a decision that was right for me.”
 

Training ground?

“It’s amazing. Everybody tells you how great the facilities are. It’s hard to believe. I met Ancelotti in Madrid last year, but if you changed the logos, it’s similar. It’s an opportunity for the players and young players to get better.”
 

Vardy?

“It’s somebody who has had a career for a long time. He’s been fit all along. He’s helped every team he’s played for at Leicester. He’s still producing. It’s a great striker and it’s great to have him in the squad.”

 

Pick players up?

“That is what needed to be done. Sunday was the first time that I was here. Was it yesterday? It feels longer. I met the players and staff and everybody who is here. I had a meeting with the players and it was the first thing to address. The situation we’re in, the challenge we face and what’s necessary to get out. The results in recent weeks, it’s about reacting. We need clarity in how we’re going to do things. With two days it’s difficult to make too many changes, but we have started to make changes on how we want things.”
 

Obsession with defensive structure?

“It manifests in meetings, in drills on the training pitch. Yesterday and today it has been a topic of discussion. How can the back four play together with the sixes in front, who’s running, who’s following who, body positions, etc. There’s a lot of detail in there. Today was the first time we had the whole group together.”
 

January transfers?

“That was a topic of discussion. The two conversations were very open and clear. It’s important to know how things are in the near future and the further future. January was discussed. The current squad was discussed. I have to have a good assessment over the coming weeks ahead of January, giving every player a chance. I’m working with people at the club but I’m looking to bring in other people.”
 

Message from owner?

“The expectations are clear. They are not easy. It’s to maintain in the Premier League. It’s the big target.”
 

Plan?

“Structures off the ball it’s a 4-4-2, we look to give pressure on the opponent in different formations. But the basic structure 4-4-2. There was a three-box-three that I used at United and that was developed by Enzo here. I saw that as an advantage coming here. It saves me a bit of work!”
 

Approach?

“I’m thinking of one thing and that’s winning every game. When you play top teams or mid-table teams or lower-ranked teams, it sometimes requires a different approach. The style of play adjusts depending on how we win. I’m not a romantic manager who puts style ahead of a result. We’re not the dominant side in this league.”
 

Injuries?

“Caleb was part of team training and looked good. We’ll wait on his reaction. All being well, he will be in the squad. Harry is doing individual work. It’s not a long term injury and hopefully we can welcome him soon.”
 

 

[RedSoxUK]

Alright Top, fine, I'll go.. IF I get free Singa beer and Faes cakes, and it's £10.

[LVFox]

**** me 4-4-2 oop, 3-4-3 ip 

 

For the first time this season, a coach with an actual tactical plan

[VLC86]

Interesting that he’s pretty much confirmed we approached him well before sacking Cooper.

[Happy Fox]

He speaks with such clarity,  the players will welcome that as opposed to Cooper.

[RedSoxUK]

1 minute ago, LVFox said:

**** me 4-4-2 oop, 3-4-3 ip 

 

For the first time this season, a coach with an actual tactical plan

Mostly likely variation of 3241 than what is seen as a 343.

 

Interesting to know who the **** he intends to bring into midfield from defence, or defence from midfield... 

 

Hamza as RB into DM, Vestergaard as CB into DM.. few dodgy options