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[foxy boxing]

2 hours ago, leicsmac said:

RFK confirmed as Health Secretary.

 

Make Polio Great Again.

How long will he survive the curse of the Kennedys! 

[Torquay Gunner]

4 hours ago, Zear0 said:

Pete Hegseth is an odd bloke

Several sexual assault allegations made against him and even his mother called him ‘an abuser of women’, although she later apologised to him.   So in other words a typical Trump appointee. 

[Parafox]

Maybe there should be a separate topic for "Lies Told On My CV".

[Lionator]

Time to send Ukraine some British troops and maybe give them technology to make nukes and have them pointed at the Kremlin. 

[leicsmac]

2 hours ago, Lionator said:

While a lot of his more extreme stuff is proper wack job, some of his less extreme views around ultra processed food and what not could actually have a very big positive impact. 

...which, while correct, will sadly be outweighed by the wackjob stuff.

[Jattdogg]

4 hours ago, leicsmac said:

RFK confirmed as Health Secretary.

 

Make Polio Great Again.

I think the worse one will be that Patel bloke wants to shut the fbi office down and turn it into a museum and then go for anyone who went after trump.

 

Guy is a nutcase.

Edited 13 February by Jattdogg

[Zear0]

19 minutes ago, Lionator said:

Time to send Ukraine some British troops and maybe give them technology to make nukes and have them pointed at the Kremlin. 

They've got a massive stash of Plutonium from their civil plants and some of the most competent nuclear engineers in Europe, I'd be surprised if they've not chipped one together already.

[urban.spaceman]

6 hours ago, Otis said:

1. No tax increases

They said very explicitly in their manifesto that they were not going to raise these taxes on working people: 

Income tax

National Insurance

VAT

They have kept that promise.

 

6 hours ago, Otis said:

2. Protect farmers

From the manifesto:

Supporting British farmers
Labour recognises that food security is national security.
That is why we will champion British farming whilst
protecting the environment. We will set a target for half
of all food purchased across the public sector to be
locally produced or certified to higher environmental
standards. We will introduce a land-use framework and
make environment land management schemes work for
farmers and nature. And we will work with farmers and
scientists on measures to eradicate Bovine TB, protecting
livelihoods, so that we can end the ineffective badger cull.

 

Which they're doing. 

6 hours ago, Otis said:

3. Smash the gangs

Which they're doing - do you really think it's possible to do such a thing in just 7 months given the state of things left behind by the Tories?

6 hours ago, Otis said:

4. Protect pensioners

From the manifesto:

 

Our system of state, private, and workplace pensions
provide the basis for security in retirement. Labour will
retain the triple lock for the state pension. We will also
adopt reforms to workplace pensions to deliver better
outcomes for UK savers and pensioners. Our pensions
review will consider what further steps are needed to
improve security in retirement, as well as to increase
productive investment in the UK economy.

 

Which they're doing.

6 hours ago, Otis said:

5. Waspi women 

There was no promise to WASPI women in the manifesto.

6 hours ago, Otis said:

6. Cut energy bills 

See #3.

6 hours ago, Otis said:

7. Freeze Council tax 

They said they wouldn't change council tax bands. They're not changing council tax bands.

6 hours ago, Otis said:

 

Just a few off the top off my head.

Sure you didn't pull them from somewhere else?

7 hours ago, Otis said:

I find it remarkable how you seem to be perfectly OK with her lies.

Alleged lies, which Reeves has denied and explained as an administrative error by her team.

7 hours ago, Otis said:

From a party who promised to clean up politics. 

The fact we've gone from "Prime Minister promoting a man who knew was a sex offender then lying about knowing that he was a sex offender", or "Home Secretary who had to resign because she'd sent official government emails to her own personal unsecure email account, is rehired a week later by a different PM" or "MP gives out fellow MPs personal phone numbers after being caught in honeytrap scandal" or "Prime Minister's Chief of Staff, Personal Private Secretary, Secretary of State for Scotland & 7 Met Police members of his security team caught placing bets on the date of the General Election when they had insider knowledge"'; to: "Rachel's done a typo", suggests to me they're making progress. 

[jgtuk]

3 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said:

They said very explicitly in their manifesto that they were not going to raise these taxes on working people: 

Income tax

National Insurance

VAT

They have kept that promise.

 

From the manifesto:

Supporting British farmers
Labour recognises that food security is national security.
That is why we will champion British farming whilst
protecting the environment. We will set a target for half
of all food purchased across the public sector to be
locally produced or certified to higher environmental
standards. We will introduce a land-use framework and
make environment land management schemes work for
farmers and nature. And we will work with farmers and
scientists on measures to eradicate Bovine TB, protecting
livelihoods, so that we can end the ineffective badger cull.

 

Which they're doing. 

Which they're doing - do you really think it's possible to do such a thing in just 7 months given the state of things left behind by the Tories?

From the manifesto:

 

Our system of state, private, and workplace pensions
provide the basis for security in retirement. Labour will
retain the triple lock for the state pension. We will also
adopt reforms to workplace pensions to deliver better
outcomes for UK savers and pensioners. Our pensions
review will consider what further steps are needed to
improve security in retirement, as well as to increase
productive investment in the UK economy.

 

Which they're doing.

There was no promise to WASPI women in the manifesto.

See #3.

They said they wouldn't change council tax bands. They're not changing council tax bands.

Sure you didn't pull them from somewhere else?

Alleged lies, which Reeves has denied and explained as an administrative error by her team.

The fact we've gone from "Prime Minister promoting a man who knew was a sex offender then lying about knowing that he was a sex offender", or "Home Secretary who had to resign because she'd sent official government emails to her own personal unsecure email account, is rehired a week later by a different PM" or "MP gives out fellow MPs personal phone numbers after being caught in honeytrap scandal" or "Prime Minister's Chief of Staff, Personal Private Secretary, Secretary of State for Scotland & 7 Met Police members of his security team caught placing bets on the date of the General Election when they had insider knowledge"'; to: "Rachel's done a typo", suggests to me they're making progress. 

Kudos to you for bothering with this 👍

[Trav Le Bleu]

If America wants to be isolationist, let them.

They hit your country with 25% tariffs, hit them with 50% tariffs and engage "privateer" smugglers.

 

Ban Hollywood movies and US TV and music... No great loss .

 

Ban them from the Olympics and FIFA World Cup... I'm sure Mexico and Canada could cope just fine.

 

Boycott the US tennis Open and 3 of the Golf Majors (whilst banning Americans from The Open and Wimbledon).

 

Get rid of Macdonald's and KFC, swap your Xbox for a Nintendo or PlayStation. 

 

#WDNA

 

We don't need America (certainly not anywhere near as much as they think.)

[Zear0]

4 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

If America wants to be isolationist, let them.

They hit your country with 25% tariffs, hit them with 50% tariffs and engage "privateer" smugglers.

 

Ban Hollywood movies and US TV and music... No great loss .

 

Ban them from the Olympics and FIFA World Cup... I'm sure Mexico and Canada could cope just fine.

 

Boycott the US tennis Open and 3 of the Golf Majors (whilst banning Americans from The Open and Wimbledon).

 

Get rid of Macdonald's and KFC, swap your Xbox for a Nintendo or PlayStation. 

 

#WDNA

 

We don't need America (certainly not anywhere near as much as they think.)

Regulate and squeeze the tech companies.  Jeff, Elon, Mark and co. would soon change.

[Trav Le Bleu]

11 minutes ago, Zear0 said:

Regulate and squeeze the tech companies.  Jeff, Elon, Mark and co. would soon change.

I fear that would be the hardest. Whilst writing that I realised Microsoft, Apple and Google, all US.

 

Bang goes 98% of your computing platforms. I'm thinking Linux too.

[Otis]

37 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said:

They said very explicitly in their manifesto that they were not going to raise these taxes on working people: 

Income tax

National Insurance

VAT

They have kept that promise.

 

From the manifesto:

Supporting British farmers
Labour recognises that food security is national security.
That is why we will champion British farming whilst
protecting the environment. We will set a target for half
of all food purchased across the public sector to be
locally produced or certified to higher environmental
standards. We will introduce a land-use framework and
make environment land management schemes work for
farmers and nature. And we will work with farmers and
scientists on measures to eradicate Bovine TB, protecting
livelihoods, so that we can end the ineffective badger cull.

 

Which they're doing. 

Which they're doing - do you really think it's possible to do such a thing in just 7 months given the state of things left behind by the Tories?

From the manifesto:

 

Our system of state, private, and workplace pensions
provide the basis for security in retirement. Labour will
retain the triple lock for the state pension. We will also
adopt reforms to workplace pensions to deliver better
outcomes for UK savers and pensioners. Our pensions
review will consider what further steps are needed to
improve security in retirement, as well as to increase
productive investment in the UK economy.

 

Which they're doing.

There was no promise to WASPI women in the manifesto.

See #3.

They said they wouldn't change council tax bands. They're not changing council tax bands.

Sure you didn't pull them from somewhere else?

Alleged lies, which Reeves has denied and explained as an administrative error by her team.

The fact we've gone from "Prime Minister promoting a man who knew was a sex offender then lying about knowing that he was a sex offender", or "Home Secretary who had to resign because she'd sent official government emails to her own personal unsecure email account, is rehired a week later by a different PM" or "MP gives out fellow MPs personal phone numbers after being caught in honeytrap scandal" or "Prime Minister's Chief of Staff, Personal Private Secretary, Secretary of State for Scotland & 7 Met Police members of his security team caught placing bets on the date of the General Election when they had insider knowledge"'; to: "Rachel's done a typo", suggests to me they're making progress. 

Wow you've really drank the koolaid.

 

One thing, after being challenged on it  several times, she insisted she was correct, I think you'd know whether you worked at the BOE for 5.5 years or a decade. 

[Izzy]

48 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

 

Boycott the US tennis Open and 3 of the Golf Majors (whilst banning Americans from The Open and Wimbledon).

 

Steady on old chap.

 

Edited 13 February by Izzy

[urban.spaceman]

1 hour ago, jgtuk said:

Kudos to you for bothering with this 👍

I was going to reply immediately but then I went to see The Brutalist which is roughly 17 hours long.

[urban.spaceman]

56 minutes ago, Otis said:

Wow you've really drank the koolaid.

I love how "going through people's lies and pointing out where they're wrong" has now become "drinking the koolaid". 

 

56 minutes ago, Otis said:

 

One thing, after being challenged on it  several times, she insisted she was correct, I think you'd know whether you worked at the BOE for 5.5 years or a decade. 

In fairness 14 years living under the Tories felt like 40 ****ing years so I can forgive her for rounding up a bit from 2 (or 4) decades ago.

 

This is hardly the scandal of the century, is it? Especially when the current Leader of the Opposition openly admitted to committing an ACTUAL CRIME by hacking a political rival's website.

[urban.spaceman]

1 hour ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

If America wants to be isolationist, let them.

They hit your country with 25% tariffs, hit them with 50% tariffs and engage "privateer" smugglers.

 

Ban Hollywood movies and US TV and music... No great loss .

 

Ban them from the Olympics and FIFA World Cup... I'm sure Mexico and Canada could cope just fine.

 

Boycott the US tennis Open and 3 of the Golf Majors (whilst banning Americans from The Open and Wimbledon).

 

Get rid of Macdonald's and KFC, swap your Xbox for a Nintendo or PlayStation. 

 

#WDNA

 

We don't need America (certainly not anywhere near as much as they think.)

Ban Americans from owning football teams? Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal would be ****ed.

 

Which would be nice.

 

[Otis]

7 hours ago, urban.spaceman said:

I love how "going through people's lies and pointing out where they're wrong" has now become "drinking the koolaid". 

 

In fairness 14 years living under the Tories felt like 40 ****ing years so I can forgive her for rounding up a bit from 2 (or 4) decades ago.

 

This is hardly the scandal of the century, is it? Especially when the current Leader of the Opposition openly admitted to committing an ACTUAL CRIME by hacking a political rival's website.

Must by why Labour’s approval ratings have dropped off a cliff. 

[leicsmac]

9 hours ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

If America wants to be isolationist, let them.

They hit your country with 25% tariffs, hit them with 50% tariffs and engage "privateer" smugglers.

 

Ban Hollywood movies and US TV and music... No great loss .

 

Ban them from the Olympics and FIFA World Cup... I'm sure Mexico and Canada could cope just fine.

 

Boycott the US tennis Open and 3 of the Golf Majors (whilst banning Americans from The Open and Wimbledon).

 

Get rid of Macdonald's and KFC, swap your Xbox for a Nintendo or PlayStation. 

 

#WDNA

 

We don't need America (certainly not anywhere near as much as they think.)

Treat them the same way the UK treats the Chinese - a potentially hostile belligerent who shares few of the UKs social values but with whom some cooperation on global matters is needed.

[Jon the Hat]

26 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

Treat them the same way the UK treats the Chinese - a potentially hostile belligerent who shares few of the UKs social values but with whom some cooperation on global matters is needed.

I think on balance you are conflating two very different relationships.

[jgtuk]

6 minutes ago, Jon the Hat said:

I think on balance you are conflating two very different relationships.

I think on balance that one of the two have wreaked far more damage globally than the other. 

[jgtuk]

 

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/feb/13/macmillan-cancer-support-cuts-quarter-of-staff-and-scraps-hardship-scheme

 

[the fox]

Another one for team conspiracy theory:

 

The US Congress admits that it was sending funds to groups like ISIS and boko haram.

 

 

 

[Trav Le Bleu]

9 hours ago, Izzy said:

Steady on old chap.

 

Unfortunately, cancelling test matches seems redundant.

[leicsmac]

15 minutes ago, Jon the Hat said:

I think on balance you are conflating two very different relationships.

In terms of the style of each government? Yes, very different.

 

In terms of the way they view anyone not pandering to their own national interest and their social policies towards minority communities? I'm not so sure.

 

Of course, the US has the ability to change course in a few years. At the present time, anyway.