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[Lionator]

2 hours ago, leicsmac said:

Starmer calls Trump "a friend of the UK".

 

The man doesn't have friends, Kier. He has sycophants and enemies. I would have thought that analysis of the mindset of the man was obvious by now.

It’s so cringe how the narrative is that you have to mollycoddle Trump. Like you say, he’s easy to read, he’s not actually winnable and it makes us look even weaker, desperate and embarrassing that we already are. 

[Lionator]

In Canada, through a combination of Trudeau resigning and Trump’s threats, the Liberal party have gone from 20 points behind to ahead in the polls, which to say is remarkable would be an understatement.

[Md9]

Tate brothers left Romania and on way to USA. Wonder what job they will get from trump as they are a pair of bellends as well 

[Tommy G]

1 hour ago, leicsmac said:

Starmer calls Trump "a friend of the UK".

 

The man doesn't have friends, Kier. He has sycophants and enemies. I would have thought that analysis of the mindset of the man was obvious by now.

He's got to say that hasn't he? Whether he believes it is another thing. Trump is already 1 nil up as he's managed to convince Starmer to increase Defence spending.

 

It will be an interesting meeting - the orange lunatic will probably tie him in knots as he is good off the cuff whilst Keir needs a script to read from. I really hope SKS is strong enough to dodge his bollocks.  

[Dunge]

27 minutes ago, Md9 said:

Tate brothers left Romania and on way to USA. Wonder what job they will get from trump as they are a pair of bellends as well 

Andrew Tate: US envoy to the UK.

 

You can’t say it won’t happen in this era.

[Alf Bentley]

3 hours ago, Dunge said:

Andrew Tate: US envoy to the UK.

 

You can’t say it won’t happen in this era.

 

After seeing that Trump Gaza video, I'm anticipating Tate being appointed US Secretary for Women's Affairs.

I'm sure there'll be an elite position for him in the Trolligarchy, anyway.

 

 

[Otis]

Oops.

 

Man smashes up electric car in protest against Elon Musk - but mistakes Volvo brand for a Tesla https://mol.im/a/14442683 via https://dailym.ai/android

 

[bovril]

MAGA does remind me a lot of brexit in that it appears to be motivated very much by returning to a period of great success but is totally oblivious to what created that success. And I imagine like brexit in 5 years nobody in the US will admit they supported it, or they'll claim it was betrayed in some way.

[leicsmac]

41 minutes ago, bovril said:

MAGA does remind me a lot of brexit in that it appears to be motivated very much by returning to a period of great success but is totally oblivious to what created that success. And I imagine like brexit in 5 years nobody in the US will admit they supported it, or they'll claim it was betrayed in some way.

Tbh I would have thought that after his first term, especially after January 6th 2021.

 

However, given that since then somehow the ethos behind the movement has survived pretty much every type of criminality apart from actual treason, now I'm not so sure it will fade that easily.

[leicsmac]

4 hours ago, st albans fox said:

Everything is a deal with the USA’s self interest front and centre. (And of course his too) 

his apparent empathy (when it’s offered) is likely just a means to an end 

But he’s the most powerful man in the world for the next 4 years so we have to deal with that reality and try to make the downsides as limited as possible and any upsides as positive as they can be. 

I still want to see someone actually call his bluff and stick to their position to see what happens. 

I think Macron is at least toying with that idea and the new German leader seems ready to do it too.

 

I just hope Starmer might do similarly.

 

4 hours ago, Lionator said:

It’s so cringe how the narrative is that you have to mollycoddle Trump. Like you say, he’s easy to read, he’s not actually winnable and it makes us look even weaker, desperate and embarrassing that we already are. 

Pretty much, yes.

 

Say no to him, let him have his tantrum about it, and then see how far he's willing to bluff.

 

The more nations that follow suit, the more pressured he will end up being.

 

 

4 hours ago, Tommy G said:

He's got to say that hasn't he? Whether he believes it is another thing. Trump is already 1 nil up as he's managed to convince Starmer to increase Defence spending.

 

It will be an interesting meeting - the orange lunatic will probably tie him in knots as he is good off the cuff whilst Keir needs a script to read from. I really hope SKS is strong enough to dodge his bollocks.  

That's about right - like you, I do hope Starmer is saying one thing and being prepared to act in another.

[Trav Le Bleu]

4 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

Tbh I would have thought that after his first term, especially after January 6th 2021.

 

However, given that since then somehow the ethos behind the movement has survived pretty much every type of criminality apart from actual treason, now I'm not so sure it will fade that easily.

Oh, it'll survive treason, just wait and see.

[TamworthFoxes]

46 minutes ago, bovril said:

MAGA does remind me a lot of brexit in that it appears to be motivated very much by returning to a period of great success but is totally oblivious to what created that success. And I imagine like brexit in 5 years nobody in the US will admit they supported it, or they'll claim it was betrayed in some way.

What you on about you plum?

No one will admit they voted for Brexit?

I will happily admit I voted for it and will give you two glorious reasons why.

 

1) It did, and still does, live in the head rent free of the loony left 5 years on. This alone makes it worth it. As shown by how frequent it is brought up in this thread. (Also known as the left wing echo chamber)

 

2) It was great to see the stupid/thick/uneducated/far right/racist/clueless (delete or include as per your preference) vote together and give the superior, educated people a bloody nose when they were not expecting it.

 

So don’t think you talk for the majority, always remember the silent majority are lurking about just ready to give you another reminder when you least expect it. (See point 2).

[leicsmac]

Just now, TamworthFoxes said:

What you on about you plum?

No one will admit they voted for Brexit?

I will happily admit I voted for it and will give you two glorious reasons why.

 

1) It did, and still does, live in the head rent free of the loony left 5 years on. This alone makes it worth it. As shown by how frequent it is brought up in this thread. (Also known as the left wing echo chamber)

 

2) It was great to see the stupid/thick/uneducated/far right/racist/clueless (delete or include as per your preference) vote together and give the superior, educated people a bloody nose when they were not expecting it.

 

So don’t think you talk for the majority, always remember the silent majority are lurking about just ready to give you another reminder when you least expect it. (See point 2).

...as they are also doing with Trump's second visit to the table, it would seem.

 

I wonder how that will all turn out for the US and for the world at large, particularly on global issues.

[leicsmac]

10 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

Oh, it'll survive treason, just wait and see.

It may well do.

 

However, dark comfort though it may be, the laws of physics (in various forms) will end up having the last word if it does. Can't bluff or bully those.

[FoxesDeb]

5 minutes ago, TamworthFoxes said:

What you on about you plum?

No one will admit they voted for Brexit?

I will happily admit I voted for it and will give you two glorious reasons why.

 

1) It did, and still does, live in the head rent free of the loony left 5 years on. This alone makes it worth it. As shown by how frequent it is brought up in this thread. (Also known as the left wing echo chamber)

 

2) It was great to see the stupid/thick/uneducated/far right/racist/clueless (delete or include as per your preference) vote together and give the superior, educated people a bloody nose when they were not expecting it.

 

So don’t think you talk for the majority, always remember the silent majority are lurking about just ready to give you another reminder when you least expect it. (See point 2).

You think they are 'glorious' reasons for voting for something which has arguably not been beneficial for the UK in the slightest, and has in fact only been detrimental?

 

Christ

 

[Sampson]

1 minute ago, FoxesDeb said:

You think they are 'glorious' reasons for voting for something which has arguably not been beneficial for the UK in the slightest, and has in fact only been detrimental?

 

Christ

 

This is the classic right wing trap I keep posting about. You’re supposed to answer something like you have so they can say you’re talking down to them calling them stupid etc. and you have therefore “proven” point 2 (Even when it was a leaver who originally inferred that anyone voting remain were the “elites” calling anyone who voted “leave” stupid).

 

There’s no way you can actually answer it without it being somehow talking down to people voting for it. It’s a total catch 22.

 

Which is fine, if it’s just internet trolls. The sad part is the number of moderates who keep falling for it and saying “Brexit/Trump/Farage was voted for because you keep calling them stupid”

[Tommy G]

This will end in tears

[st albans fox]

32 minutes ago, TamworthFoxes said:

What you on about you plum?

No one will admit they voted for Brexit?

I will happily admit I voted for it and will give you two glorious reasons why.

 

1) It did, and still does, live in the head rent free of the loony left 5 years on. This alone makes it worth it. As shown by how frequent it is brought up in this thread. (Also known as the left wing echo chamber)

 

2) It was great to see the stupid/thick/uneducated/far right/racist/clueless (delete or include as per your preference) vote together and give the superior, educated people a bloody nose when they were not expecting it.

 

So don’t think you talk for the majority, always remember the silent majority are lurking about just ready to give you another reminder when you least expect it. (See point 2).

Couldn’t you have just gone on a march or made a placard !

 

At the risk of opening a can of worms, voting leave in 2016 wasn’t a terrible thing to do per se-  just  terrible timing.  In 2030 it might have been great timing.  
 

ah well -  it got rid of Cameron and Osborne.  Some will see it as worthwhile for that alone.  

[leicsmac]

11 minutes ago, Tommy G said:

This will end in tears

I fear it might, I think a few of us have seen this play out before.

[WigstonWanderer]

44 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

I think Macron is at least toying with that idea and the new German leader seems ready to do it too.

 

I just hope Starmer might do similarly.

I’d love to see what’s left of the democracies stick firmly together and call him out. Cowering and flattering him is completely useless. It just emboldens him to continue with his lies and bullying. Great to see Macron fact check him live to his face. If no one reacts to the fire alarms going off, everyone will just carry on as normal until we all burn.

[WigstonWanderer]

44 minutes ago, TamworthFoxes said:

2) It was great to see the stupid/thick/uneducated/far right/racist/clueless (delete or include as per your preference) vote together and give the superior, educated people a bloody nose when they were not expecting it.

Gave themselves a bloody nose

[bovril]

1 hour ago, leicsmac said:

Tbh I would have thought that after his first term, especially after January 6th 2021.

This term seems more Brexity in that it's even more "I want things to be different...smash smash... oh no" than his first term.

[bovril]

In some corner of Tamworth it is always 2016

[Sampson]

20 minutes ago, bovril said:

In some corner of Tamworth it is always 2016

Yes, in Marc Albrighton’s trophy cabinet. 

[leicsmac]

25 minutes ago, bovril said:

This term seems more Brexity in that it's even more "I want things to be different...smash smash... oh no" than his first term.

You may be right.

 

Here's hoping the damage caused is at least somewhat limited.