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Posted
1 hour ago, Pliskin said:

Why is there a lack of quality? This is a football club that’s made more money from player sales from any club of its size….. this is a football club who went from comfortably 8th to 18th in less than 12 months…… this is a football club that’s just stood still watching the world pass it by. Yes the squad lacks some quality, but it also has quality, Vesty, and Faes are both international footballers, there are international footballers throughout this team with experience. 
 

You have to compensate the lacking in quality with effort….. that is what the fans can’t forgive, there is a clear lack of effort, today was pathetic, they were out fought, not outplayed…. This squad is rancid, with the back bone of a jelly fish. 
 

And the worst part about all of this, is our greatest ever player is about to retire a disgrace, it’s not his fault, there’s nothing he can do….. sounds completely ridiculous, but to save his legacy, I’d just let Vardy leave, his last season with us can’t be the most disgraceful relegation in the clubs history, it can’t be. 
 

In terms of having a go at the players, they deserve it, if you’re not prepared to fight for the shirt, you’re not worth supporting, sorry. If they care, they will react. 

The most disgraceful relegation in the club's history, given the team we had happened two years ago sadly! That said if we accrue less points in this (33 or less), then this one is well up there too!

Posted
1 hour ago, Pliskin said:

You’re completely missing the point. 
 

We’re pissed off because of our negligent owner who’s clearly well out of his depth. What is happening on the pitch is a mirror of his leadership. He has allowed incompetence within his office which has led this club to a completely unnecessary relegation, near PSR charges and has left the club light years behind the likes of Nottingham ****ing Forest.
 

 This isn’t about signing a few rubbish players, this is about years of catastrophic decisions that have destroyed the club. And this happy clappy approach has merely facilitated our downfall. 
 

Top and his board room are an infection that needs removing, what’s the point in having good times if you can’t even ****ing sustain it? Just mediocrity like Brighton should have been achievable….. 

 

The position we find ourselves in, is unacceptable, and any other head of an organisation that had orchestrated this demise would be struck off. 

Shades of Mike Ashley at Newcastle of old perhaps - just worse! 

Posted
1 hour ago, Viva said:

We aren't buying players so we are compliant with PSR and don't get hit by a load of charges by the EFL if we get relegated. Getting relegated previously with a squad that had a top 8 wage bill, obviously wasn't part of the plan and has made things tough. 

 

Not exactly helped matters, Mavididi, Winks and Coady all on massive contracts in the championship… not to mention 90k a week on a striker we don’t even use!! The man responsible for contracts is an absolute lemon, any half decent business/club would have got shot of him LONG ago!

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Posted
1 hour ago, Viva said:

I'm not going to list all the good signings, but we made plenty of them recently too.

We'll be favourites to win the Championship next season if we go down. We will have more than a good enough squad to get promoted again. There is just a huge gap between the two leagues. 

I hope you're right (if we do go down), but I think you are so, massively wrong. We could be in the Championship right now and be mid table at best.

Posted (edited)
43 minutes ago, ajthefox said:

Who the feck is applauding that shower of shit. What on earth were they watching. My word.

Performing Seals......been brainwashed by KPFC. (sorry to seals,because they have more about them than these clappers!)

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Posted
6 hours ago, Rusko187 said:

Not exactly helped matters, Mavididi, Winks and Coady all on massive contracts in the championship… not to mention 90k a week on a striker we don’t even use!! The man responsible for contracts is an absolute lemon, any half decent business/club would have got shot of him LONG ago!

Mavididi and Winks were key parts of our Championship promotion. We needed to get promoted or we would have been in big trouble. Had to do what was needed. 

Posted
5 hours ago, dillonpanthers87 said:

I hope you're right (if we do go down), but I think you are so, massively wrong. We could be in the Championship right now and be mid table at best.

The Championship isn’t that good. Leeds are top with a vastly inferior squad to when we played them last season. 

Posted

I don't give a f...ck about the end to the season now...we're going down

 

the only thing I want is Vards to score his 200th goal for us

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Posted
7 hours ago, Viva said:

They are still one of the three worst squads in the league though. No matter how much experience is in there. We were 4/9 favourites to be relegated at the start of the season. It's no surprise to me that we are struggling. The trouble with a lot of our fans though, is they can't accept where we are now and have unrealistic expectations of where we should be. 

We are in the mix and can still stay up. The job will be a whole  lot harder if the fans don't try to help out. Fair enough, boo and voice opinions at the end of the match, but slating players during a game is never going to help. 

However, fans are entitled to do what they want, just like players are if they don't want to clap the fans. 

 

You’re completely missing the point. Sorry if that is blunt!

 

We are one of the worst 3 sides in the league, personally I have expected us to finish bottom 3 all season and my comments will show that such as transfer business to plan for the Championship etc.

 

But please justify that defending yesterday to me? That was not what you’d expect from a weaker side towards a stronger side in the same division (let’s not even get started on how bad Everton are in their own right). I would honestly expect better from a non-league side against a Premier League side in terms of the basics. Yes they’d likely still lose by a bit but it’d be harder, maybe they’d get worn down and played around, not just parting like the Red Sea!
 

You simply cannot justify the level of what happened yesterday down to ‘being one of the worst 3 in the league’….

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Posted
7 hours ago, Viva said:

I'm not going to list all the good signings, but we made plenty of them recently too.

We'll be favourites to win the Championship next season if we go down. We will have more than a good enough squad to get promoted again. There is just a huge gap between the two leagues. 

First point, just because we did last time it is not as simple as doing it again. Even if the season finished now with the 3 going down, I reckon we’d be behind Ipswich and Southampton next season and that’s without whoever doing go up. Leeds probably go up. Whoever doesn’t go up out of Sheff Utd, Burnley and Sunderland who are building something will be strong. Even if we don’t have a points deduction and/or embargo, getting in the playoffs next season will be an achievement. 
 

Second point, it’s not just about ‘let’s go down and just come up again’. It’s about having a club we can get behind, take pride in, players showing desire on the pitch. It’s embarrassing to be a Leicester fan right now and that has nothing to do with the league position. 
 

Football is about much more than looking at the results and league table on a Saturday night….

Posted (edited)
9 hours ago, Spudulike said:

Relegation Rats v2.0. I think this version are actually even more dislikable.

Hard to disagree but I think there difference is 2022/23 they were decent players (When they want it - You can still see even at their new clubs they go missing), they had the quality and skill, getting us relegated whilst they were engineering moves, moves to clubs participating in European competition, these lot don't possess any off that, but they're equally just half arsed. Unacceptable.

 

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Posted
22 minutes ago, Matt said:

Hard to disagree but I think there difference is 2022/23 they were decent players (When they want it - You can still see even at their new clubs they go missing), they had the quality and skill, getting us relegated whilst they were engineering moves, moves to clubs participating in European competition, these lot don't possess any off that, but they're equally just half arsed. Unacceptable.

 

 I have to agree, 2 years ago we had a talented squad which took us down because they didn't give the club their full effort. The ability of the squad should and could have kept us up that season

This group of players although appear to have given up... I'm not convinced they ever had the talent

Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, Viva said:

Mavididi and Winks were key parts of our Championship promotion. We needed to get promoted or we would have been in big trouble. Had to do what was needed. 

On the previous page you mention we aren't spending to not get hit with charges, but it was okay to take that risk last season? Basically it paid off last year so you can use it to back up your love of the club behind the scenes. 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Tommy Fresh said:

On the previous page you mention we aren't spending to not get hit with charges, but it was okay to take that risk last season? Basically it paid off last year so you can use it to back up your love of the club behind the scenes. 

Yes at some points you have to take risks. The spending of money in the January we got relegated was one of them and then spending money to get back at the first attempt was the other. One paid off, one didn’t. 
If we get relegated this season, our finances will be nowhere near as bad as the last time we went down. The wage bill is lower and one or two of the very high years of losses will be off the three year cycle for PSR.  

Posted

I don't blame people for taking the piss. Either that or get annoyed, really.

 

As has been said, nobody did it last week when there was grit and determination. When you are 2-0 down after 6 minutes against a team a place above you, they deserve a negative reaction.

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Posted
3 hours ago, LCFCJohn said:

You’re completely missing the point. Sorry if that is blunt!

 

We are one of the worst 3 sides in the league, personally I have expected us to finish bottom 3 all season and my comments will show that such as transfer business to plan for the Championship etc.

 

But please justify that defending yesterday to me? That was not what you’d expect from a weaker side towards a stronger side in the same division (let’s not even get started on how bad Everton are in their own right). I would honestly expect better from a non-league side against a Premier League side in terms of the basics. Yes they’d likely still lose by a bit but it’d be harder, maybe they’d get worn down and played around, not just parting like the Red Sea!
 

You simply cannot justify the level of what happened yesterday down to ‘being one of the worst 3 in the league’….

Yesterday was poor. As was Wolves. If the players got booed at the end of each of those matches, I wouldn’t have an issue. 
My main point, is the massive overreaction every time we lose any game on here. Most losses are to be expected in our position. 
 

Booing players during matches, when players get subbed on or off,  singing about being crap and getting relegated, just isn’t going to help anything. Thats the plain fact of it. 

Posted

Think the start was so incredibly poor and ridiculous the fans pretty gave up on the team and focused on all the chants of self deprecation and all the old songs from players past. It was not an angry crowd yesterday ( when it’s angry there is normally at least one fight amongst the fans) but just acceptance this team is horrible and not worthy of any support. 

Posted
3 hours ago, Viva said:

The Championship isn’t that good. Leeds are top with a vastly inferior squad to when we played them last season. 

If we played Leeds tomorrow they would win easily. The Championship is actually very competitive and you only have to look at the other side of the coin at Luton Town to see how relegation can go. 

We will go down with a worse squad than the one that got promoted last season. We sold on of our best players and will need to sell our keeper to raise funds not to breach the losses allowed in the Championship. We have ageing players on stupid length contracts and from what I can see precious few youngsters able to make the step up.

Yesterday shows just how far we have fallen from just a couple of years ago. We are on a sharp downwards curve in terms of quality within the squad, a manager who won't be here next season and frankly a squad that is very poor.

Posted
4 minutes ago, Viva said:

Yesterday was poor. As was Wolves. If the players got booed at the end of each of those matches, I wouldn’t have an issue. 
My main point, is the massive overreaction every time we lose any game on here. Most losses are to be expected in our position. 
 

Booing players during matches, when players get subbed on or off,  singing about being crap and getting relegated, just isn’t going to help anything. Thats the plain fact of it. 

To some extent I agree about losing games but that does not apply to yesterday. It wasn't poor it was bloody abject.

 

I think everyone is well aware those chants don't help, it's a bit of gallows humour. When we are 2-0 down to 2 horrific goals after 6 minutes against a relegation rival, what else do you expect? It's light relief.

 

I'm really not big on booing, I thought booing Ward specifically at Wolves and Ayew when he took a corner yesterday is wrong. But you can bet I was booing after their 3rd goal and at half time. 

Posted
6 minutes ago, Viva said:

Yesterday was poor. As was Wolves. If the players got booed at the end of each of those matches, I wouldn’t have an issue. 
My main point, is the massive overreaction every time we lose any game on here. Most losses are to be expected in our position. 
 

Booing players during matches, when players get subbed on or off,  singing about being crap and getting relegated, just isn’t going to help anything. Thats the plain fact of it. 

It isn't about losing it is about how you lose. Lose with pride and dignity and effort and fans will back the players even if disappointed. Lose in the manner of yesterday's woeful showing and players lose the goodwill and support of the fans. Once that happens it becomes very difficult to turn it round.

 

Those players, yesterday, gave up. There are some who frankly should never play for us again.

 

And of course people on hear react and overreact. It what being a football fan is about. Your club runs through your veins, into your heart and is a part of your life in the way that few other sporting teams are.

People boo etc because they have spent their hard earned money, probably the equivalent to a few minutes work for some of these players, to travel to a game to see their team basically not bother to try, to give up.  Maybe it isn't right but it is understandable.

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Posted
4 minutes ago, reynard said:

If we played Leeds tomorrow they would win easily. The Championship is actually very competitive and you only have to look at the other side of the coin at Luton Town to see how relegation can go. 

We will go down with a worse squad than the one that got promoted last season. We sold on of our best players and will need to sell our keeper to raise funds not to breach the losses allowed in the Championship. We have ageing players on stupid length contracts and from what I can see precious few youngsters able to make the step up.

Yesterday shows just how far we have fallen from just a couple of years ago. We are on a sharp downwards curve in terms of quality within the squad, a manager who won't be here next season and frankly a squad that is very poor.

You think a Championship team containing Fatawu, Bilal, Mavididi, Winks, Ndidi, Ricardo, Vestergaard (class player in that league), Justin, Coady/Okoli/Nelson a decent young goalie and probably Vardy is poor? 
That’s with no other signings too. 
You can’t compare that squad to Luton’s in the Championship. We would be favourites/ joint fav to win the league.  

Posted
9 hours ago, ajthefox said:

Who the feck is applauding that shower of shit. What on earth were they watching. My word.

The same people that clapped them off after the most disgraceful relegation in Premier League history.  

 

This club gets such an easy ride because of the mentality of most of the clubs supporters. There would be anarchy at any other club. Such a strange fanbase. 

 

 

Posted
9 minutes ago, Viva said:

You think a Championship team containing Fatawu, Bilal, Mavididi, Winks, Ndidi, Ricardo, Vestergaard (class player in that league), Justin, Coady/Okoli/Nelson a decent young goalie and probably Vardy is poor? 
That’s with no other signings too. 
You can’t compare that squad to Luton’s in the Championship. We would be favourites/ joint fav to win the league.  

I'm not comparing us to Luton. But relegation does not always mean guaranteed promotion.  And yes I do think the squad is poor. You are only mentioning the potential first team. This squad has zero depth. 

Of those you list, Ricardo and Ndidi are hardly ever fit. Who knows if Fatawu will recover and Vardy will be gone. Coady isn't good enough and who knows regarding Okoli who probably won't want to be here.

Plus we may be under a transfer embargo.

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