Would you be bothered..

[OntarioFox]

9 hours ago, Pliskin said:

If someone won the biggest jackpot on the lottery ever, and spunked it on nothing, do you think those who cared about them would be impressed? 

So what we're saying is that Top and Rudkin are the Michael Carroll of football?

[OnlyOneCity]

17 hours ago, Sly said:

We are a similar size I’d imagine. 
 

The challenge we have, is that half the county follows a fairly successful

rugby club, so given the choice, I’m not so sure we fill the stadium. 

The percentage of support for the Tigers against the City is not as high as people think. How many turned up for the Tigers European Cup Win “parade” and how many turned up for the Championship win in 2014.

[kristianity77]

I don’t care really either.  It’s quite sad that if I can be bothered to tune in to a game, I don’t cheer anymore when we score, and I don’t care if we let one in.

 

Watching Leicester these days is the same as if I tune in to any other random match, couldn’t give a toss who wins.

 

after supporting City for well over 30 years, I find myself drifting heavily to just being a neutral fan now who watches an occasional game.  Never felt this before even in the league one days I was right behind what we were trying to achieve.

 

This is on another level, my love for the team has gone. Been stripped away by piss poor decision after decision. The decline pretty much started from after we lifted the FA cup in my opinion.

[Pliskin]

50 minutes ago, fox in the sox said:

There is no point just picking out the likes of Brentford and Bournemouth. There are all the other clubs who are way behind us, many of them such as Stoke and West Brom also had long stays in the Premier League. The problem is when you try to move on from being a team just surviving in the Premier League to try to compete higher up because you need big wages to do that - and when it starts to go wrong for whatever reason (change of manager, injuries etc) it is difficult to turn it around.

You’re not wrong. 
 

However, the clubs you’ve mentioned haven’t reached anywhere near the levels we did…. And this is what a lot of fans are struggling to grasp, this isn’t a little whoopsie, this is the biggest collapse in football history. As I said yesterday, not many clubs outside the top six have had the money we’ve had come through the club, with a combination of success and player sales…… and the collapse was down to negligence, not because we’re plucky little Leicester. 

[grobyfox1990]

I understand these threads are a place for people to shout about how much they're 'done with the club non league mate' but the club brings in a lot of cash to the city, so we should all be bothered if that reduces via relegations. The impact on the city is more important than your online image and making people believe that you don't care about the club whilst very actively following every tiny thing the club does.

[volpeazzurro]

2 hours ago, murphy said:

I'm not saying you shouldn't criticise the way we've been run and continue to be run.  It is all self-inflicted after all.  My comment was directed to those who say they don't care any more and walk away from the club because we're no good anymore.  The definition of a fair-weather fan.

I see. I wouldn't go away permanently because like many, we outlive most owners and carry on. I would however if it was organised, miss a couple of games and not sell my tickets in order to leave empty spaces in the ground as a protest.

[sylofox]

8 hours ago, jonthefox said:

Or all leave on 84 ( 1884) minutes. I know the joke on here is that many do anyway , but a mass evacuation would speak volumes. 

 

 

 

 

 

I doubt very much they would know the significance of 84. They don't do pre KP.

 

Just wait till they try and change our name. I'm sure the happy clappers will be all for it.

 

Don't forget we was in div 1.

 

I'll give it 5yrs but more like 2yrs.

[Noahfence]

It’s been a few years now since I’ve fully been invested. Even last year when we were winning most weeks I found zero enjoyment in it. 
 

The club desperately needs a complete reset. 

[splinterdream]

19 hours ago, Lineker's Left Foot said:

.. if we kept going down and down?

 

Going to get shot down for this but since 1987 - when I first caught the bug of watching my team - I have never felt so apathetic towards them.

 

I have seen them win everything possible but now I just don’t care anymore.  Wouldn’t bother me if they went down a couple of levels just to get rid of KP and getting my club back.  Sorry if this had already been mooted in a previous thread.

 

Now to these charlatans “Not One Penny More!”

It was similar feeling following Taylor, we had mercenaries stealing a living, losing heavily but didn't look arsed.

We do need a reset, and that's maybe why the club decided to not sign anyone and take the medicine, maybe there's been a discussion and a new plan is in place.

You can all but hope 

[SafewayFox]

Seeing how poorly we’ve been run in a simple bar chart has really hit home for me, my hatred towards the board/losing interest in a club that I didn’t know was possible.

 

Our inflated (incorrect wage structure) is well known but seeing how much we actually pay for players in comparison to other clubs yet have such PSR issues should be called out by the media way more than it is.

[fox in the sox]

6 hours ago, Pliskin said:

You’re not wrong. 
 

However, the clubs you’ve mentioned haven’t reached anywhere near the levels we did…. And this is what a lot of fans are struggling to grasp, this isn’t a little whoopsie, this is the biggest collapse in football history. As I said yesterday, not many clubs outside the top six have had the money we’ve had come through the club, with a combination of success and player sales…… and the collapse was down to negligence, not because we’re plucky little Leicester. 

Fulham finished in 7th-9th place for 3 years and got to a European final. 3 years later they were relegated. There are just no recent examples of teams outside the ‘big 6 or 7’ keeping success going for a long period because it only takes a couple of things to go wrong. Fulham fans were probably thinking  ‘How have we ended up in the Championship and Leicester have overtaken us.’ It goes in cycles for the mid-size clubs, now Fulham are doing well again and we are struggling to compete at the top level.

[chris1232]

9 minutes ago, fox in the sox said:

Fulham finished in 7th-9th place for 3 years and got to a European final. 3 years later they were relegated. There are just no recent examples of teams outside the ‘big 6 or 7’ keeping success going for a long period because it only takes a couple of things to go wrong. Fulham fans were probably thinking  ‘How have we ended up in the Championship and Leicester have overtaken us.’ It goes in cycles for the mid-size clubs, now Fulham are doing well again and we are struggling to compete at the top level.

they didnt win a premier league though? Only city and chelsea have won more in the last 15 years

[fox in the sox]

9 minutes ago, chris1232 said:

they didnt win a premier league though? Only city and chelsea have won more in the last 15 years

No but Blackburn did and they were relegated four years later, quicker than us.

[LCFCJohn]

6 hours ago, fox in the sox said:

Fulham finished in 7th-9th place for 3 years and got to a European final. 3 years later they were relegated. There are just no recent examples of teams outside the ‘big 6 or 7’ keeping success going for a long period because it only takes a couple of things to go wrong. Fulham fans were probably thinking  ‘How have we ended up in the Championship and Leicester have overtaken us.’ It goes in cycles for the mid-size clubs, now Fulham are doing well again and we are struggling to compete at the top level.

It keeps having to be said though, but people aren’t angry because we are not challenging at the top, it’s the manor in which we have screwed everything up. We had a higher starting point than the likes of Fulham, even if we had just been more sensible and invested wisely, the outcome may have been to drop to midtable. To actually go from where we were to being relegated so quickly, with the squad we had is not just ‘well that’s the cycle and how it goes’. It was entirely avoidable.

 

Which is why it gives people no faith we will be back as nothing appears to be changing.

[Sly]

13 hours ago, Pliskin said:

You’re not wrong. 
 

However, the clubs you’ve mentioned haven’t reached anywhere near the levels we did…. And this is what a lot of fans are struggling to grasp, this isn’t a little whoopsie, this is the biggest collapse in football history. As I said yesterday, not many clubs outside the top six have had the money we’ve had come through the club, with a combination of success and player sales…… and the collapse was down to negligence, not because we’re plucky little Leicester. 

Lots of teams fall off. 
 

We were basically spending above our means to compete. That was how Vichai operated us as like shrewd business people, who took calculated risks. 
 

With Aiywatt, we’ve done the opposite. We’ve almost gone the other way. Not signing anyone to try and stay in the league, and risking the PSR battle later is a different approach to what Vichai took. 
 

As for clubs with a major fall from grace. 
 

Deportivo La Coruna and Parma - just “wow” from what they were.

 

Blackburn Rovers - not dissimilar to us. 

 

Schalke - more of a basket case than us.

 

Maybe Aberdeen post Fergie? Still the only Scottish club with two European trophies. 

 

Manchester United. It’s unthinkable if you saw them under the Ferguson years to what they are now. 
 

And the big one for me, IFK Gotëborg. Purely because having initially supported Barcelona, I was taken to the Semi Final of the European Cup at the Nou Camp. Gotëborg were 3-0 up from the first leg. Barca won 3-0 and went on to win the game on penalties. I only have vague memories of the match but even so! Like at the Gotëborg fall off post then and it’s steep! 

[Sly]

26 minutes ago, LCFCJohn said:

It keeps having to be said though, but people aren’t angry because we are not challenging at the top, it’s the manor in which we have screwed everything up. We had a higher starting point than the likes of Fulham, even if we had just been more sensible and invested wisely, the outcome may have been to drop to midtable. To actually go from where we were to being relegated so quickly, with the squad we had is not just ‘well that’s the cycle and how it goes’. It was entirely avoidable.

 

Which is why it gives people no faith we will be back as nothing appears to be changing.

I think if we’d have kept Perez and Albrighton and even pulled in Dean Smith earlier, we would have survived. 
 

Perez and Albrighton were work horses as players and whilst some people were not a fan of Perez, he always tried. Without the pre conception of him now, most would snap his hand off looking at his stats for the past two seasons. 
 

The Smith / Shakespeare / Terry setup was like watching paint dry but was basically a more tactically drilled version of Coopers. I even think they’d do a job with the lot we have now. 

[LCFCJohn]

1 hour ago, Sly said:

I think if we’d have kept Perez and Albrighton and even pulled in Dean Smith earlier, we would have survived. 
 

Perez and Albrighton were work horses as players and whilst some people were not a fan of Perez, he always tried. Without the pre conception of him now, most would snap his hand off looking at his stats for the past two seasons. 
 

The Smith / Shakespeare / Terry setup was like watching paint dry but was basically a more tactically drilled version of Coopers. I even think they’d do a job with the lot we have now. 

Yeah, this just adds to the point really. It wasn’t destined to be or part of a cycle, it was avoidable and through small actions such as changing the manager earlier or including players with a decent work ethic like you say. 

[Pliskin]

12 hours ago, Sly said:

Lots of teams fall off. 
 

We were basically spending above our means to compete. That was how Vichai operated us as like shrewd business people, who took calculated risks. 
 

With Aiywatt, we’ve done the opposite. We’ve almost gone the other way. Not signing anyone to try and stay in the league, and risking the PSR battle later is a different approach to what Vichai took. 
 

As for clubs with a major fall from grace. 
 

Deportivo La Coruna and Parma - just “wow” from what they were.

 

Blackburn Rovers - not dissimilar to us. 

 

Schalke - more of a basket case than us.

 

Maybe Aberdeen post Fergie? Still the only Scottish club with two European trophies. 

 

Manchester United. It’s unthinkable if you saw them under the Ferguson years to what they are now. 
 

And the big one for me, IFK Gotëborg. Purely because having initially supported Barcelona, I was taken to the Semi Final of the European Cup at the Nou Camp. Gotëborg were 3-0 up from the first leg. Barca won 3-0 and went on to win the game on penalties. I only have vague memories of the match but even so! Like at the Gotëborg fall off post then and it’s steep! 

It’s all well and good comparing us to other clubs that have fallen away. But modern english football is the most lucrative as an entity in world football. Blackburn are only similar to us because they’re former champions, other than that there’s no likeness at all. 
 

What some fail to accept is the financial gain we got from our success outweighs any team with a similar history to us. The fact we have spectacularly failed to sustain even a level of mediocrity with the financial benefits we had, is still staggering. 
 

Clubs like Blackburn fell away because they simply couldn’t compete financially anymore, same with Bolton, Stoke and Pompy. We didn’t have that issue, we could financially keep up, but what we did was completely mismanage those finances, make some amateur and shocking decisions that ultimately allowed the club to fold like a deckchair. We allowed millions of pounds worth of assets walk away for free…… assets that if sold for good prices could have helped keep us stable. 
 

This isn’t a case of a small club running its course, this is a case of a club that’s so badly run, that it’s managed to tie itself in knots financially, despite raising astonishing levels of money from player sales, that to a level of elite clubs. 
 

That’s what separates us from all of the other falls from grace, it’s the fact we had earned the means to be a successful and steady club, but human error has lead to an implosion like no other. 

[StevieH]

I know it's pretty obvious but last season was so much more enjoyable. The Premier league is just full of foreign overpaid players who don't give a toss about the clubs they play for. To try and bridge the gap in quality between Prem and Championship is really hard to do. It's been a really tough season and no doubt we'll be relegated. Just don't forget those fantastic last 10 years that no one can take away from us. I'm sure Top knows he has made errors but we'll come again next season.

[The Year Of The Fox]

Haven’t been nearly so fussed since we won the PL, and what with our CL adventures too. 
 

How can I cheer a goal at home to Burnley on a Tuesday night when I was cheering a goal that knocked Sevilla out and got us into the CL Quarter Final?

I can’t. We’ve been spoilt rotten

 

The whole Rodgers car crash and the apathy (initially) against being against him killed the last bit of love I had of going to the games.

 

The way we’re being ran off the pitch is a debacle in its own right too. And I’m not talking about Rudkin. I’m talking about the tone deaf middle management of the club.

 

If going back to League 1 rid of all the mess then I’d probably take that. Who knows, I might start wanting to go

again. 🤷🏻‍♂️

 

Nobody can take the last 12 years away from us though. It’s just infuriating because the writing was on the wall 3.5 years ago and it was all so entirely preventable. 

Edited 5 February by The Year Of The Fox

[Noahfence]

Just now, The Year Of The Fox said:

Haven’t been nearly so fussed since we won the PL, and what with our CL adventures too. 
 

How can I cheer a goal at home to Burnley on a Tuesday night when I was cheering a goal that knocked Sevilla out and got us into the CL Quarter Final?

I can’t 

 

The whole Rodgers car crash and the apathy (initially) against being against him killed the last bit of love I had of going to the games.

 

The way we’re being ran off the pitch is a debacle in its own right too. And I’m not talking about Rudkin. I’m talking about the tone deaf middle management of the club.

 

If going back to League 1 rid of all the mess then I’d probably take that. Who knows, I might start wanting to go again. 🤷🏻‍♂️

If we’re honest when you’re a club like us and you reached those sort of highs it’s absolutely going to have a long term impact. 

Last season we were winning every game and it’s probably one of the least enjoyable seasons I’ve had supporting us. 
 

We won a Prem title & FA Cup in 5 years. I don’t think we as a fanbase will probably ever recover from what that’s done to expectations AND how we react to wins, losses etc 

[The Year Of The Fox]

3 minutes ago, Noahfence said:

If we’re honest when you’re a club like us and you reached those sort of highs it’s absolutely going to have a long term impact. 

Last season we were winning every game and it’s probably one of the least enjoyable seasons I’ve had supporting us. 
 

We won a Prem title & FA Cup in 5 years. I don’t think we as a fanbase will probably ever recover from what that’s done to expectations AND how we react to wins, losses etc 

Probably because we should’ve never have been there in the first place. 
 

Very much like our ‘European semi’ that strangely gets spoken about so highly of. We only made it there because we failed to beat Warsaw twice in a better competition 

[Winstonthedog]

On 03/02/2025 at 23:31, funkyrobot said:

Tbf to the club, they’ve switched the tunnel sign back to the 22/23 one. 

This shambles have definitely quite

[Dan]

2022/23 was mental really. I don't think you'll ever see a club get this much wrong in one season. Like I think if you had ranked every single day of that year from the most to least suitable to sack Rodgers, we might have sacked him on quite literally the worst possible day. It was a generational level fumble.

[Jimbo]

I've lost interest. Not entirely all the clubs fault, I just don't think I'm that interested in the sport anymore, certainly not at "elite" levels. 

 

My lack of interest in the club these days - I'm not sure what that boils down to. Don't know if it's because we've been incredibly spoilt the last 10 or so years and I had become more accustomed to "better" or if it's because there is a distinct lack of connection between the club and it's fans. This is our natural level, it's what I grew up with but through all of the dross we witnessed from around 2004-2009 I never felt like I didn't want to go to the football, I never felt disconnected from the club. Right now I genuinely couldn't be any less interested. 

 

On the sport as a whole it just isn't the same anymore. With TV coverage at the levels it's at (and that will only get worse) the new champions league format which is just a backdoor way in to the European super league everyone was so against, the big 6 and financial regulations put in place to "make it fair for everyone" etc etc etc football has lost its soul.

 

If we had managed to kick on and stay successful I'm not going to lie, I probably still would be more interested, it's human nature. If we had become one of the bigger boys it's easier to look down on those below than it is to accept always looking up. But for those of us feeling the same way, I genuinely think it's more to do with how the sport has progressed over the last 30 years to the point we're at now more than how the club is performing.

 

I was having a conversation not too long ago about football Vs American football. I'm quite a big fan of American football and it is just so much better in a number of ways. My main argument during this conversation was that in the Premier league, they will still harp on how it's about the fans, it's for the fans and it's not about money at all - we all know it is, but they will never admit it. In America, they make no secret that it's all about money, they own that fact and even kinda gloat about it. We moan about ticket prices here, they're ridiculous over there. They flaunt their financial power and people don't mind it because they're not trying to hide it. 

 

The league is as fair as they can make it, bar a few owners of teams who don't really care about the success because they get paid either way, teams can come from no where and make a stab at being successful in any given season. I know some things would never work due to the differing natures of the 2 sports but football could actually learn a lot from the NFL - the salary cap, the no big money contracts (relatively speaking) until the 5th year of being professional, the draft and how players are transferred between teams.