Managerial replacements

[Silebyfox_89]

Keith Vaz anyone?

 

Got good experience and is familiar with our next opponents the Chelsea ren* b....woops!

[teblin]

5 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

Not a chance. 

You seem very clear on that, hope you are right but just a feeling I have. Had the same feeling that we’d appoint Claude too.

[ClaphamFox]

1 minute ago, teblin said:

You seem very clear on that, hope you are right but just a feeling I have. Had the same feeling that we’d appoint Claude too.

Russell Martin has just proven beyond doubt that he cannot manage a club of our size in the PL. If we have any aspirations to return to the PL in the near future, why would we choose somebody who did such a terrible job as he did with Southampton? It would also be a profoundly unpopular appointment with the fans. Given that relations between the fans and the club are already at an all-time low, do you really think they'd go out of their way to piss everybody off even more? 

[dannythefox]

1 minute ago, ClaphamFox said:

Russell Martin has just proven beyond doubt that he cannot manage a club of our size in the PL. If we have any aspirations to return to the PL in the near future, why would we choose somebody who did such a terrible job as he did with Southampton? It would also be a profoundly unpopular appointment with the fans. Given that relations between the fans and the club are already at an all-time low, do you really think they'd go out of their way to piss everybody off even more? 

Honestly after bringing an x forest manager in I don’t think they give a shite what we want. Clubs rotten to the core 

[teblin]

2 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

Russell Martin has just proven beyond doubt that he cannot manage a club of our size in the PL. If we have any aspirations to return to the PL in the near future, why would we choose somebody who did such a terrible job as he did with Southampton? It would also be a profoundly unpopular appointment with the fans. Given that relations between the fans and the club are already at an all-time low, do you really think they'd go out of their way to piss everybody off even more? 

You'd hope not. But I am not surprised by anything at the moment.

 

On that logic, I'd say there is a fair change Andy King will be Caretaker until the end of the season.

[ClaphamFox]

2 minutes ago, teblin said:

You'd hope not. But I am not surprised by anything at the moment.

 

On that logic, I'd say there is a fair change Andy King will be Caretaker until the end of the season.

Why jeopardise his development as a coach by saddling him with a job he’s not qualified for and may end up destroying his confidence?

[teblin]

5 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

Why jeopardise his development as a coach by saddling him with a job he’s not qualified for and may end up destroying his confidence?

I’m not saying we should, just could see it happening as soon as he was “promoted”.

 

The club have made some strange decisions recently.

[John rayner]

15 hours ago, frany104 said:

Genuinely…..

 

if we sack RVN now….. who is going to want the job? Who in the right mind would want it!?

 

15 hours ago, frany104 said:

Genuinely…..

 

if we sack RVN now….. who is going to want the job? Who in the right mind would want it!?

Nobody ,unless you give the job to Andy King

[Dmitry]

I see no other way to salvation other than hiring a  Russian hockey coach for the remainder of the season. He will make them squirm like the little pussies that they are and will squeeze the last shreds of manhood out of them, just to win. And will they shall.

 

 

 

 

 

[Stadt]

41 minutes ago, BenTheFox said:

I think Russell Martin would get us out of the championship, but I'd hate every second of him being our manager, and it'd ultimately be pointless because we wouldn't have a prayer of staying up under him. 

I don’t think he would even get us up. His Southampton team conceded 63 goals last season and he has all of Enzo’s failings with probably only 2/3rds of the upside.

 

He’s a detestable manager too, I’m not saying this lightly - I wouldn’t renew if he was the manager, dogmatic ideologues like him are maddening.

[The boy Linacre]

Somebody on the BBC chat has got it right I think IF we can afford to sack him.

 

David: Bin Ruud van Nistelrooy and put Brian Barry-Murphy in charge for the rest of the season. The players apparently respect him, he has some management experience, plus there's his association with Pep Guardiola. We are going down, but let's at least do it with our dignity intact.

He'll have a chance to bag the job IF he gets a response from the players over the last 1/4 of the season, aspiration can be a great driver can't be any worse than the records RVN is and will set.

Somebody needs the chance to kick arse, Ruud is stealing a living now.  And so are the slackers in the team, Vardy GOAT has missed chances in most of the last half a dozen games, get Daka on with him or swap, can't be any worse based on form, attitude & results.  Maybe go 5 at the back now Ricky will be back, god knows BUT change something or the manager.

[Lambert09]

Unfortunately this thread is pointless. 
 

We all know what is coming. Russell Martin will get the job because he’s proven he can get championship promotion and that will be the final nail in our coffin

[Product of 84]

Jose isn't having a great time in Turkey...

 

On a serious note. Mark Robins has Championship experience. I know it didn't work out at Cov or at Stoke but he hasn't had the players. 

[winteriscoming]

Really don’t understand this thought process that bringing back ex managers. I can only think it’s been successful for Chelsea with Mourinho and obviously with Pearson. Him coming back for a third time just wouldn’t be successful imo. I don’t want O’Neil or Pearson coming back to tarnish their reputation with these bunch of clowns. Need to move on from that period. 

[Molson Canadian]

he's feeling better bring him home.  he will get this squad in line. 

 

 

[AjcW]

2 hours ago, Product of 84 said:

Jose isn't having a great time in Turkey...

 

On a serious note. Mark Robins has Championship experience. I know it didn't work out at Cov or at Stoke but he hasn't had the players. 

What’s he done wrong at Stoke? Not been there long and doing exactly as expected without time to assemble his own squad yet? 

[Mendi]

Roberto Mancini 

[Dave Fishwick]

4 hours ago, Product of 84 said:

Jose isn't having a great time in Turkey...

 

On a serious note. Mark Robins has Championship experience. I know it didn't work out at Cov or at Stoke but he hasn't had the players. 

he definitely has had the players. They've spent a fair bit of money quietly, that's why he got sacked from Cov

[dooflip]

4 hours ago, Product of 84 said:

Jose isn't having a great time in Turkey...

 

On a serious note. Mark Robins has Championship experience. I know it didn't work out at Cov or at Stoke but he hasn't had the players. 

He’s not as good without Adi Viveash though mate. The two of them parting ways after their issues was the point where he started to struggle at cov.

[Bibby]

Richie Wellens. It will be like old times blaming him for everything 

[Winstonthedog]

We need a strong manager with presence and authority.... not a puppet ... which the last 2 have been .... Enzo was stronger and as soon as Top and Rudkin saw that ... they did not stand in his way when he was offered the Chelsea jib 

[ClaphamFox]

13 minutes ago, Winstonthedog said:

We need a strong manager with presence and authority.... not a puppet ... which the last 2 have been .... Enzo was stronger and as soon as Top and Rudkin saw that ... they did not stand in his way when he was offered the Chelsea jib 

This is utter nonsense. Enzo had demanded structural changes at the club at the decision-making level - and the club were planning on giving him everything he wanted. They were desperate for him to stay but as soon as Chelsea came in his mind was made up - there was nothing anybody could do to talk him out of it. The tragedy for us is that the changes Enzo wanted were exactly what we’re calling for now, but when he left the impetus behind making those changes left the building with him and the club just reverted to type.

 

For what it’s worth I don’t think RVN is a ‘puppet’, either. He quit PSG because he wasn’t given what he wanted. I imagine he’s pretty vocal with the owners behind the scenes. 

Edited 1 March by ClaphamFox

[Winstonthedog]

At the present time the club has many puppets and not just in management...   I've not heard Enzo with a lot to say that is overly positive about the club 

[ClaphamFox]

2 minutes ago, Winstonthedog said:

At the present time the club has many puppets and not just in management...   I've not heard Enzo with a lot to say that is overly positive about the club 

RVN has said he took the job after consulting Enzo, so he must have said something positive about us. But I agree with your general point - we desperately need stronger and more competent figures making the decisions at the club. Hopefully this season’s total shit show has convinced Top that major changes are needed of the kind Maresca was demanding. Because if we head into the summer transfer window with the same people making the decisions, the future will look very bleak.

[dobbylcfc]

Problem is we can do the merry go round on the manager carousel for the 2nd time this season but it’s the same players. You could go down the Dyche route kick em up the arse tactic but let’s face it these players will dig there heels in and we’d be no better off. We could go down the heat player crap manager route again with the likes of Gerrard and Rooney ect problem with that is neither has proven anything in the manager profession as of yet. Knowing King power and Rudkin it’ll be stick with Ruud get relegated and do another review at the end of the season that’ll never released to the fans. The only way we get OUR club back is drive king power and Rudkin OUT and start again.