Plane Banner - Liverpool at home.

[CosbehFox]

9 minutes ago, VLC86 said:

I know someone else has posted similar that I’m about to (I can’t find the post) but i think the message of King Power out has the potential to drum up more support from people who are either KP in or on the fence.

 

The message should definitely be about accountability, responsibility and change by Top and the board.

 

We all want change, we all want the powers that be to spend the time and effort to get the values of the club back but calling for KP out will definitely split opinions when in reality you want to bring more people along with you.

Much like yourself as an individual I don't have an issue with the message but I think there's a long battle ahead of us and everything has to be slightly clever and justified. You need to manage the narrative and it's easy for it to be kicked into entitled fans long grass. 

[grobyfox1990]

18 minutes ago, FoxTrott said:

This will backfire so hard on a PR level. Genuinely intrigued, who do people think will come in to own the club and do things better? Which owners of a current PL football club are better? And I'm talking about owners, not people within the club.

Omg it will clearly heavily backfire hugely on a PR level. Our fans will be the laughing stock of the footballing world the day after, spoiled, entitled etc.

That's why no one should be a wokey snowflake about this, just ignore it. Knowing our fans however they will get very offended at the backlash and come out endlessly justifying the banner when there is no need to.

[Heskey2011]

Have we had a poll on this?

I thought "Rudkin Out" was the message most people wanted?

 

 

[Foxin_Mad]

19 minutes ago, FoxTrott said:

This will backfire so hard on a PR level. Genuinely intrigued, who do people think will come in to own the club and do things better? Which owners of a current PL football club are better? And I'm talking about owners, not people within the club.

Brighton, Brentford, Bournemouth

 

All relatively tin pot clubs, now light years ahead of us on and off the pitch, smaller fan bases etc. 

[MrLuke]

I keep posting these here and don't want to sidetrack from the plane banner, but if anyone is keen for badges, t-shirts etc to help with any protest, I am happy to help create some.

[Saigon Fox]

I'm really unhappy that I donated when it was Premier Ambitions, Amateur Decisions only to come back here and find it's changed. I'd like my money back. In my humble opinion, it's now a bit crass - before it made the point in a reasonable way. 

Edited 19 March by Saigon Fox

[adejo92]

2 minutes ago, Saigon Fox said:

I'm really unhappy that I donated when it was Premier Ambitions, Amateur Decisions only to come back here and find it's changed. I'd like my money back. In my humble opinion, it's now a bit crass - before it made the point in a reasonable way. 

Get your money back then.

 

You'll be able to put it towards your own plane banner.

Edited 19 March by adejo92

[Haywood_6]

Just now, adejo92 said:

You read the comments though and just disregard.

 

Facebook is the swamp for all the KP cuckolds.

 

90% of the comments are about what the family did for us. It wasn't the 'family' it was Vichai. Since his passing the club have done absolutely nothing but harm to us.

 

They've brain washed people into thinking our success was all down to them too.

 

Fvck the Facebook simpletons.

 

King Power Out.

Right I need to get this out

 

Some people on Facebook still seem to think it’s 2016 the glory days of League and FA Cup wins, and European success. Let me be clear, those days are long gone. The Facebook King Power Cult FC crowd and the likes of Cliff Gincetta would have you believe we should just accept whatever happens to the club because of that past success and that King Power is somehow untouchable and not accountable for anything.

 

We could spend all day listing the club’s failures, but here are a few in case some need reminding (but i think the majority of Foxes talk members are already well aware) the wage structure, massively overpaying players,  investing big sums into players with no returns, still failing to find a decent backup for a 38y old Vardy. They actually expected Steve Cooper to succeed with a squad built by Mareca despite his completely different managerial style. Then there’s the lack of communication,  they won't address fan concerns, they treat us like puppet customers. Only there to spend money and stay quiet - not loyal supporters who actually care deeply about the team’s future. Struggling to comply with PSR, and balancing the books. The culture at Seagrave, the standards reportedly stink, players living as far as london and bringing there dogs to training! There’s so much to unpack. But these are just a handful of issues. There’s plenty more where that came from. The bottom line is Top makes the decisions and Rudkin just advises.

 

[ozvaldo]

3 minutes ago, Saigon Fox said:

I'm really unhappy that I donated when it was Premier Ambitions, Amateur Decisions only to come back here and find it's changed. I'd like my money back. In my humble opinion, it's now a bit crass - before it made the point in a reasonable way. 

Hello mate,
Send me a message via GoFundMe and we'll sort out your refund.

cheers.

[Ballie1981]

4 minutes ago, Saigon Fox said:

I'm really unhappy that I donated when it was Premier Ambitions, Amateur Decisions only to come back here and find it's changed. Is life my money back. In my humble opinion, it's now a bit crass - before it made the point in a reasonable way. 

Was going to donate when it was the previous message but noticed it changed. Agree with it being abit crass. I m not precious about king power just want the club run much better than now

Edited 19 March by Ballie1981

[Heskey2011]

The reason Facebook is against King Power Out banner is simply because the people posting are older.  They remember previous owners, relegatuons to L1, Administration etc, so Top Rudkin and King Power getting things wrong now, from thier perspective isn't as awful as most (not all) people on FT, think it is.

 

 

 

[Dmitry]

How about KING NO POWER ?

I can see how this makes your national news…

[Saigon Fox]

3 minutes ago, adejo92 said:

Get your money back then.

 

You'll be able to put it towards your own plane banner.

It's difficult not to read that as being a tad aggressive. It might not be, perhaps you're just being direct. 

[Nods]

In unrelated news, I had a 'Sabrina Carpenter IN' plane fly over the Co-Op live when she played there last week. 

 

Haven't heard from her yet but I'm pretty sure she's convinced that I'm the man for her.

Edited 19 March by Nods

[CosbehFox]

5 minutes ago, Heskey2011 said:

The reason Facebook is against King Power Out banner is simply because the people posting are older.  They remember previous owners, relegatuons to L1, Administration etc, so Top Rudkin and King Power getting things wrong now, from thier perspective isn't as awful as most (not all) people on FT, think it is.

 

 

 

We are in an echo chamber on here, you have to accept that and you have to accept you'll piss off a few. There's nothing wrong with that but just be aware you'll alienate. 

 

If you are leading a co-ordinated campaign of pointed targeting, it has to be a bit more canny. 

 

Personally I think both can work in conjunction but the scales of where fan support is probably still weighed towards current ownership as maddening (and amazing) as that seems. 

[notnow john]

5 minutes ago, Saigon Fox said:

It's difficult not to read that as being a tad aggressive. It might not be, perhaps you're just being direct. 

I had visions of a small child stamping their feet.

[LCFCJohn]

52 minutes ago, adejo92 said:

You read the comments on there though and just disregard.

 

Facebook is the swamp for all the KP cuckolds.

 

90% of the comments are about what the family did for us. It wasn't the 'family' it was Vichai. Since his passing, KP have done absolutely nothing but harm to us.

 

They've brain washed people into thinking our success was all down to them too.

 

Fvck the Facebook simpletons.

 

King Power Out.

 

Hopefully the KPFC cult follow them to their next venture and stop stinking out our club with their 'we used to be in league 1' tripe.

There’s someone on there, two separate posts, same person, who claims we’d have never got promoted without KP and also that our natural place is lower second tier and being a yo-yo club is a good thing.

 

What planet are they on! So wrong on so many counts. Completely disrespectful to Pearson, Shakespeare and Walsh as well.

[Heskey2011]

9 minutes ago, Haywood_6 said:

Right I need to get this out

 

Some people on Facebook still seem to think it’s 2016 the glory days of League and FA Cup wins, and European success. Let me be clear, those days are long gone. The Facebook King Power Cult FC crowd and the likes of Cliff Gincetta would have you believe we should just accept whatever happens to the club because of that past success and that King Power is somehow untouchable and not accountable for anything.

 

We could spend all day listing the club’s failures, but here are a few in case some need reminding (but i think the majority of Foxes talk members are already well aware) the wage structure, massively overpaying players,  investing big sums into players with no returns, still failing to find a decent backup for a 38y old Vardy. They actually expected Steve Cooper to succeed with a squad built by Mareca despite his completely different managerial style. Then there’s the lack of communication,  they won't address fan concerns, they treat us like puppet customers. Only there to spend money and stay quiet - not loyal supporters who actually care deeply about the team’s future. Struggling to comply with PSR, and balancing the books. The culture at Seagrave, the standards reportedly stink, players living as far as london and bringing there dogs to training! There’s so much to unpack. But these are just a handful of issues. There’s plenty more where that came from. The bottom line is Top makes the decisions and Rudkin just advises.

 

Its not long gone though is it. 2021 if you're only 20 year old, then yes that's a long time ago but if you're 40 or over like most of the season ticket holding happy clapping people, Europe and the FA cup feels like yesterday. 

You'll struggle to convince someone who's watched us in the 90s, that our current owners need replacing, it's also the memories of other clubs awful owners, Ashley, the Venkys, Glazers, Bohley etc even Arsenal sacked the Gunnersaurus guy during covid😂,  bad owners everywhere.  Fear of the unknown and that.

[South Shire Fox]

Rudkin out not King Power out. If you want King Power to be replaced by some Yanks who will come in and make everything more expensive by treating it as a business then thats on you. King Power are no way near the levels of Venkys, Mike Ashley etc. They need reform in certain areas but not to be completely sacked off 

Edited 19 March by South Shire Fox

[Phil Mitchell]

[Hirsty The Blue 94]

I'd be more inclined to go with the 'Rotten from Top to bottom' as well. A clear dig at Top, but also includes everything below him including Rudkin, Susan, the morons who are in charge of ticketing decisions etc, as well as the manager and players who can't escape criticism as well.

 

I think the majority in the ground (not saying they are correct) would give Top leeway if he proved in the summer there were actually lessons learnt from last relegation and he made significant changes in the structuring of the club. So going KP out would likely make it sound like a noisy minority.

[Happy Fox]

Just now, Hirsty The Blue 94 said:

I'd be more inclined to go with the 'Rotten from Top to bottom' as well. A clear dig at Top, but also includes everything below him including Rudkin, Susan, the morons who are in charge of ticketing decisions etc, as well as the manager and players who can't escape criticism as well.

 

I think the majority in the ground (not saying they are correct) would give Top leeway if he proved in the summer there were actually lessons learnt from last relegation and he made significant changes in the structuring of the club. So going KP out would likely make it sound like a noisy minority.

This is not happening.

[5waller5]

1 hour ago, C.J said:

This has been posted on the 'Leicester city news' Facebook page. 82 comments at the time of writing this and they're all against the message. 

Seriously think a poll is the best way of deciding rather than just saying 'people have told me they want KP out', then you've got something people can see as evidence. I did donate but thinking about asking for a refund now.

I’ll cover his refund to keep “KING POWER OUT” 

[Nods]

@ozvaldo

 

I would urge you to listen to the considered thoughts in here. 

 

We're all angry, but 'King Power Out' misses the point and it's too easy to dismiss. It'll fall flat on its face and this will all have been a massive waste of time.

 

Credit where it's due for organising this, but please don't allow this to go in the (failed) direction of the van. 

 

Listen to the reason, not the anger.

 

We all want the same thing here. I don't want to be divisive but I can't help but notice that there is an intelligent and a not so intelligent side to this debate. 

 

Please, take a step back and side with the option that is likely to have any impact at all. Listen to the folk putting forward sound reasoning, not the side telling people that disagree with them to, and I quote, 'do one'.

Edited 19 March by Nods

[5waller5]

22 minutes ago, Heskey2011 said:

Its not long gone though is it. 2021 if you're only 20 year old, then yes that's a long time ago but if you're 40 or over like most of the season ticket holding happy clapping people, Europe and the FA cup feels like yesterday. 

You'll struggle to convince someone who's watched us in the 90s, that our current owners need replacing, it's also the memories of other clubs awful owners, Ashley, the Venkys, Glazers, Bohley etc even Arsenal sacked the Gunnersaurus guy during covid😂,  bad owners everywhere.  Fear of the unknown and that.

I’m 55 and watched us since the 70s. Couldn’t be more KP out!!