Sean Dyche

[Claudio Fannieri]

Just now, whoareyaaa said:

Would people rather keep Ruud or get Dyche if that’s the only options ?

 

I would personally rather keep Ruud even though I was keen on Dyche but not so much now 

If they were the only options then I would rather keep Ruud 

[FrankieADZ]

7 minutes ago, The Horse's Mouth said:

Brighton is actually a great example of proving your point wrong actually. Brighton got promoted with Chris hughton who solidified the club in the premier league before then changing their style and developing into a European contender. 

tbf houghton was closer to the style they are now compared to us going from passing to Dyche

[Kinowe Soorie]

2 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

Would people rather keep Ruud or get Dyche if that’s the only options ?

 

I would personally rather keep Ruud even though I was keen on Dyche but not so much now 

You Tantalizer! That would be a good poll.

[Chelmofox]

I don't want Dyche, but i would have him over other candidates for sure. I don't want Russell either, but that doesnt mean i should be happy settling for Dyche,

 

But, there are a few things that annoy me when discussing about him:

 

• Saying he's the 'best' option to get us promoted. He isn't the 'best'. He is one of several options that 'could' get us promoted. 
• Saying he will 'sort the squad out'. I see little evidence of Dyche being able to operate beyond his own constraints.  Sorting it out is going to be subjective.
• Saying 'just get rid of him after we are promoted'. Unless we start making serious profits again, we are only sacking managers if the situation is incredible dire.  Noone is headhunting Dyche from us, so unless he messes up then he will be here for his contract, and rebuilding in his vision accordingly. 
• Saying he was 'fine at Burnley and Everton'. His claim to fame at Everton is he wasn't as bad as Lampard. I actually don't really care for his time a Burnley and he himself has said he's learnt from all that (heard that before). We are Leicester. Those who interview him need to determine if he can do what we want him to do, not copy what he did at Burnley.

 

Edited 12 May 2025 by Chelmofox

[RowlattsFox]

We go for a Dyche like manager, get us promoted and then we start the merry go round again or we appoint a talented young manager who get us promoted and then gets poached, thus also meaning we start the merry go round again. 

 

Dyche likes wingers, that's one positive. 

 

 

[Chelmofox]

2 minutes ago, RowlattsFox said:

We go for a Dyche like manager, get us promoted and then we start the merry go round again or we appoint a talented young manager who get us promoted and then gets poached, thus also meaning we start the merry go round again. 

 

Dyche likes wingers, that's one positive. 

 

 

No one is poaching Dyche. The merry go round only starts again if he messes up. Would rather have managers poached if it means we get compensation and we have the next one lined up.

[RedSoxUK]

Its bollocks. 

 

The club may be making mistakes left right and centre but you don't go and hire Brian Barry-Murphy to work under Sean Dino Dyche.

 

There's no indication that they drastically rock the boat, especially after Enzo pissed it, Martin, was up there. This year Parker pissed itz and Manning got that dross Bristol City squad to play offs. The year before Burnley pisses it with Kompany... While our decision makers spent months cumming over Potter.

 

There's just nothing to suggest we look at all that and go, "yeah what we really want is Sean Dyche".

 

[lcfcsnow]

4 minutes ago, RowlattsFox said:

Dyche likes wingers, that's one positive. 

No he likes Dwight McNeil, and I'd argue he's not even a winger. At Burnley he played him and someone like Jeff Hendrick or Gudmondsson at right midfield with Phil Bardsley on the overlap  good grief he's so bad I don't understand why anyone wants this

[Levi Port]

Not chance we get him, Cooper was an awful fit and this guy is no different 

[kingfox]

There’s been many people on this forum begging for a change of style of play. They’ll be a bunch of fans advocating for an old school Dyche type. Some will want a pure counter attacking style. Some will want an aggressive counter pressing style. 
 

Let’s be honest, this is the perfect opportunity to do something different. To have a complete reset and get rid of a good chunk of this squad. Regardless who the manager is, changes will be inevitably needed. 
 

If Dyche was to get appointed for instance, what would be needed? A new goalkeeper seems inevitable with Hermansen probably leaving. Full-backs would be pretty much set up for him. He usually likes his centre backs to be aerially dominant, we already have a few defenders like that. A few changes in midfield are inevitable with Ndidi and Soumare likely to leave. We’re pretty well covered on the wings. While a couple of new strikers are inevitable too. 
 

The problem with Dyche though, is those changes will probably end up being Michael Keane on a free and a carbon copy of Calvert-Lewin. 
 

I’d very much prefer an aggressive counter pressing style of manager, but whatever camp you’re in regarding style of play, I think we can all agree that this is the perfect opportunity for something different. 

[AjcW]

Can we merge this into next manager? I worry rudkin will see it number one and... well you know the rest.

[lcfc_forever]

2 hours ago, AjcW said:

Typical City group type. HOWEVER... has had success in his early managerial journey in the football league.

 

There's also a chance the club may be aware of him from his time in Belgium, may even have spoke to him about OHL job.

 

He inherited a 'fixed' Bristol City from Nigel, but once again he's been let down by the Bristol city owners who have form for it. Signed players he didn't want, loaned out players he neded. They've massively overperformed this season.

 

He's also had the year from hell from a personal point of view but handled himself incredibly. They'll bow out tonight but it's their highest finish in a long long time. 

 

I watch a lot of Bristol City (friend is a fan), it's possession based but he's not affraid to be a bit more direct at times.

It would be a punt and I'm not sure we'd take a risk as I think financially we HAVE to come straight back up or Macquarie essentially own us.

 

*He's also often on the phone to Nigel and I believe Nigel personally recommended him for the job.

Manning as the manager, and Nigel as DoF? Sign me up. 

 

Not averse to Dyche, think we need someone with strong character to sort out the culture at the club. And I like the idea of an experienced head given the major overhaul we're likely to see in playing staff over the summer. 

[ClaphamFox]

7 minutes ago, Levi Port said:

Not chance we get him, Cooper was an awful fit and this guy is no different 

It wouldn't surprise me at all if Rudkin advocates for his friend Dyche, as the TalkSport article suggests. So it will likely come down to how much sway Rudkin has over Top, who you can't imagine would ordinarily go for a manager like Dyche. The best case scenario is that they go for somebody who is neither a possession-obsessed purist like Martin nor a tactical dinosaur like Dyche, but rather a manager who is tactically intelligent and flexible, and is willing to change his approach if things aren't working.

[trooky]

1 hour ago, Hirsty The Blue 94 said:

I mean that's largely nonsense, he managed for almost a decade in the Prem, got relegated once with Burnley then immediately established them and got them into Europe, and it was only after they removed him they went down.

 

He took over Lampards crap at Everton who were destined to go down and kept them up, dealt with points deductions and limited money and again kept their head above water.

 

Moyes is a level above Dyche no doubt, but Dyche is absolutely the sort of appointment we should be looking at. He would rebuild the ethos of a club on its arse, and also unlike Enzo wouldn't bugger off as soon as any club bats their eyelids at him. His style of football is direct, not just hoofball, gets it forward quickly, gets it wide and gets crosses in, to me that's more entertaining than tippy tappy across the back 4.

 

His style of pragmatism if he takes us up is much more likely to keep us in the division than the likes of Martin who would play the same way every week and get beat to not sacrifice his principles.

Not really Dyche has 34% win rate in his managerial career.

 

To say he won't jump ship like Enzo isn't realistic, any Leicester manager would leave for Chelsea, it's unlikely he would be on their shortlist though. 

 

The managerial appointment is the least of our worries we need to sort out DOF first, long term football strategy, recruitment etc... IMO

[HankMarvin]

1 hour ago, trooky said:

Because It shows how limited Dyche is.

 

Everton are 10th in the PL table since Moyes took charge with the same squad of players.

 

Under Dyche they were in the relegation places. 

 

Dyche may be good in the championship and achieves promotions, but will he accept a 1 year contract at Leicester because he can't manage in the PL and will be sacked in his first season back. 

They were 16th when he got sacked.

 

 

For a manager than can’t manage in the PL, in the last 9 seasons since Burnley were promoted in 16/17 he avoided relegation with Burnley in 5 of them.

In the 6th, he was sacked by Burnley in 18th with 8 games to go and still managed more points than our current manager.

 

 

Took over Everton in 19th at the start of Feb and saved them from relegation despite them only having 15 points and being on a winless run in 3 months.

 

Improved the following season with a 15th league position finish.

With a shoestring budget of £75m in 2 years.

 

Burnley in Europe and 2 seasons 7th (a place higher than O’Neil finished) and 10th not bad for a bloke that can’t “manage” in the Premier League 

 

Edited 12 May 2025 by HankMarvin

[john ridley]

5 hours ago, Pliskin said:

I think you’re overestimating the championship here though……  We can still raise decent amounts of cash… Mads and Bilal will go, between them it’s probably a shade under £50m for the pair, and the fringe players…. including the likes of Faes, Vesty, Justin, Hamza, Winks, Soumare, Ndidi… we can probably raise between £50m to £60m in funds….. the likes of Hamza will class as pure prophet, which is why we need to get him gone. 
 

Yes the situation this time around is different, but let’s not get carried away, the championship is bollocks, if we invest wisely, which we largely did the last time we were in the championship, of which some of those players will still be here…. We can still create a team good enough to piss the league. 

But we're  not going to get rid of all of them ,they will still be several at least stinking the place out .We couldn't  get rid the first time we went down ,this will be the same again,cheers Rudkin. 

[Foxin_Mad]

46 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

Would people rather keep Ruud or get Dyche if that’s the only options ?

 

I would personally rather keep Ruud even though I was keen on Dyche but not so much now 

 

1 hour ago, TheGoldenGod said:

If it's a financial decision, I think we get behind Ruud next season if he definitely wants to be here! I know it's not what people want to hear but I can't shake the feeling that moving on from another manager and starting again might not be best. Give a manager the support and backing and shift the wronguns (Vestergaard, Winks). Let him develop the young lads!

Given the people we are linked with so far and who are likely to come, I would rather the club keep Rudd. (Martin, Dyche, Manning)

 

He 6th months + here now, he understands what he has available, what needs to change, who needs to go, what he might need to add. He seems to be working well with the young players whilst keeping their best interests at heart (exams etc). He looks likely to continue that.

 

My fear is we bring in new ideas, they take a good few months to figure out whats, what, whos, who, adds a few players, changes the style, ignores the young players and then we struggle and get stuck in the managerial merrygoround, there comes a point you have to stick with someone a bit, we cant just keep sacking managers.

 

Yes we have been awful, weve been awful all year. He's been working with a difficult set up, none of us really know the conditions but they aren't good, some of the more senior players have a very poor mentality, there seems to be a poor culture. Id day since Barry Murphy and King has come in things have started to improve slowly and that kind of shows in results. Big changes cant happen in weeks or even a few months, it might take a period of time for the ground work, the teams to be built. That same Forest side absolutely wiped the floor with us at the KP. Look at Pearson after Sven, it took time for him to start getting a tune out of that team when he cleared out some of the dross. Rudd has not been given a window to being in any of his own players, not one.

 

If we could 100% get someone like Rohl, or an overseas outside the box option, and get them in as soon as the season ends fair enough but if we wait till June 30th due to PSR and then bring in a Dyche or Martin, that would be a massive cluster ****. 

 

The time for Dyche was back in November, not now. 

 

What we need is to build an ethos, stability, structures at the club for a future. We really need to develop what young talent we have, reduce our spending and really get on top of this PSR issue and continue to run a sustainable structure. Wages need to be largely based on a bonus/success basis where possible. Potentially if we utilise Monga, Evan, Alves, Nelson, Stolarczyk, with Fatawu, Mavididi, maybe Skipp and a few others for experience weve got a decent looking championship side without too much investment. 

[trooky]

25 minutes ago, HankMarvin said:

They were 16th when he got sacked.

 

 

For a manager than can’t manage in the PL, in the last 9 seasons since Burnley were promoted in 16/17 he avoided relegation with Burnley in 5 of them.

In the 6th, he was sacked by Burnley in 18th with 8 games to go and still managed more points than our current manager.

 

 

Took over Everton in 19th at the start of Feb and saved them from relegation despite them only having 15 points and being on a winless run in 3 months.

 

Improved the following season with a 15th league position finish.

With a shoestring budget of £75m in 2 years.

 

Burnley in Europe and 2 seasons 7th (a place higher than O’Neil finished) and 10th not bad for a bloke that can’t “manage” in the Premier League 

 

Our current manager is hardly a benchmark for judging his replacement. 

[indierich06]

I genuinely think he'd do a great job of re-establishing basics and standards at the club while keeping us competitive - I think he provided a good platform for Moyes to kick on at Everton. We are in a real mess at the minute, and we need someone to come in with the remit of sorting out a litany of off-the-field issues but while also getting results on the pitch - it's not dissimilar to what Pearson was tasked with after we were relegated to L1. Dyche isn't the long term answer, but I'd feel confident he could command respect of the players, and get results on the pitch. His last two seasons in the Championship, he won the league and finished 2nd behind us - 70+ goals each time, tight defensively.

 

There seems to be a lot of snobbery around him - I expect if he was called Johann Deich or Sandro Dici then the football hipsters would be lapping it up. If he can take us up, keep us up and then we part ways somewhere down the line, wouldn't that be good? 

[trooky]

2 minutes ago, trooky said:

Our current manager's points total is not a benchmark for judging his replacement. 

 

[Pita]

We need someone to get the team playing. We are in such awful mess. I think he would do a good job in the short to medium term for us. 

[Levi Port]

36 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

It wouldn't surprise me at all if Rudkin advocates for his friend Dyche, as the TalkSport article suggests. So it will likely come down to how much sway Rudkin has over Top, who you can't imagine would ordinarily go for a manager like Dyche. The best case scenario is that they go for somebody who is neither a possession-obsessed purist like Martin nor a tactical dinosaur like Dyche, but rather a manager who is tactically intelligent and flexible, and is willing to change his approach if things aren't working.

Yeah I’d absolutely agree. We know Top wants us to play possession based and I’d be surprised if we stray from that again, especially with the profile of players we have. Tanner did clarify on either BBC RL or BSLB’s that Top chose Cooper and it’s unfair to label him as Rudkins man. But you’d assume he was put infront or Top via Rudkin and the same could happen here as you say. Equally annoyed if we get Martian as we need someone reasonably flexible again as you say. 
 

There’s going to be so much agent talk in the press until September the 1st and our name will be thrown into a lot of articles, hoping this is one of them.
 

I do acknowledge that we don’t have many options if we part with Ruud and Dyche will be on a shortlist, hopefully bottom. 
 

[Chelmofox]

21 minutes ago, Foxin_Mad said:

 

Given the people we are linked with so far and who are likely to come, I would rather the club keep Rudd. (Martin, Dyche, Manning)

 

He 6th months + here now, he understands what he has available, what needs to change, who needs to go, what he might need to add. He seems to be working well with the young players whilst keeping their best interests at heart (exams etc). He looks likely to continue that.

 

My fear is we bring in new ideas, they take a good few months to figure out whats, what, whos, who, adds a few players, changes the style, ignores the young players and then we struggle and get stuck in the managerial merrygoround, there comes a point you have to stick with someone a bit, we cant just keep sacking managers.

 

Yes we have been awful, weve been awful all year. He's been working with a difficult set up, none of us really know the conditions but they aren't good, some of the more senior players have a very poor mentality, there seems to be a poor culture. Id day since Barry Murphy and King has come in things have started to improve slowly and that kind of shows in results. Big changes cant happen in weeks or even a few months, it might take a period of time for the ground work, the teams to be built. That same Forest side absolutely wiped the floor with us at the KP. Look at Pearson after Sven, it took time for him to start getting a tune out of that team when he cleared out some of the dross. Rudd has not been given a window to being in any of his own players, not one.

 

If we could 100% get someone like Rohl, or an overseas outside the box option, and get them in as soon as the season ends fair enough but if we wait till June 30th due to PSR and then bring in a Dyche or Martin, that would be a massive cluster ****. 

 

The time for Dyche was back in November, not now. 

 

What we need is to build an ethos, stability, structures at the club for a future. We really need to develop what young talent we have, reduce our spending and really get on top of this PSR issue and continue to run a sustainable structure. Wages need to be largely based on a bonus/success basis where possible. Potentially if we utilise Monga, Evan, Alves, Nelson, Stolarczyk, with Fatawu, Mavididi, maybe Skipp and a few others for experience weve got a decent looking championship side without too much investment. 

I fear this post would get pelters, but its where my head is at. 

 

I don't know what the relationship between Ruud and the board is like. If its workable, then i think what you say makes sense. I think he knows who needs to go and has high standards. He will need a good team around him though.

[splinterdream]

1 hour ago, whoareyaaa said:

Would people rather keep Ruud or get Dyche if that’s the only options ?

 

I would personally rather keep Ruud even though I was keen on Dyche but not so much now 

I would rather we spent money on a DoF, coaches, scouts, a team of people who know football players, how to spot talent, how to negotiate contracts, how to train players to a system, and if that means keeping ruud to pick the side and stand on the sideline, so be it.

[Wink84]

6 hours ago, Pliskin said:

The biggest issue with Dyche is, he is so far removed from what the club wants in terms of style. He will also disregard the youth…. The likes of Monga and Evans won’t get a sniff under Dyche, he likes experienced players and that’s proven in the teams he has managed. 
 

Everton this season are a massive red flag, they were absolutely hideous under him, and Moyes has completely turned things around with the same team….. 

 

Dyche will harm the forward progression of the club, whereas we are very much regressing at the moment, Maresca proved that it doesn’t take much to get us back on the right path again. 
 

We need to be looking at young managers, progressive, forward thinking and willing to work with young players. This idea Dyche will rebuild the club needs to be dropped IMO. I don’t think there’s any evidence to suggest he is the right man, just that he moans a lot and looks like a temu version of Stone Cold. 

In the long term Maresca has done more damage to the club. He implemented a style that's so specific that if the next manager isn't similar then the squad we have, would struggle. Him being poached hindered us so much too.

 

Now I'm not blaming Maresca, but the board. They were caught off guard by him going to Chelsea resulting in this horrendous season. We're in a much worse state than when Maresca arrived.

 

I'm not saying I want Dyche but I understand why the club and some fans would be keen on him. We need to reinvent ourselves. We need players to show some fight and passion again, not just pass pass pass football. I feel Dyche would make us hard to beat and instill some backbone that we need.

 

But I do worry about the progression of our youth. He doesn't have a good record with this. Much of that could be down to not have the right quality to bring into the first team. Where our youth are at a decent level to our current first team. 

 

Style of play won't be fun but it depends what's more important, having a higher chance of getting promoted and staying up. Or someone else that has less of a chance to go up AND stay up. That's the gamble and the trade off. We're in such a position financially that we might have to prioritise going straight back up and build again.