mad biker Posted 2 February Posted 2 February 2 hours ago, broughtonblue said: 10 point deduction incoming next week Your only 3 out, not a bad guess :-)
Foxes96 Posted 2 February Posted 2 February 7 hours ago, mad biker said: Your only 3 out, not a bad guess :-) 13!!! Might as well relegate us now 1
em9999 Posted 2 February Posted 2 February You only get 9 points deducted for going into administration How the hell could we get 10 1
Popular Post Katy Posted 2 February Popular Post Posted 2 February Please, for the love of god, issue us with this points deduction or just drop it. It’s torturous and beyond a joke now. 5
kenny Posted 2 February Posted 2 February 12 minutes ago, Katy said: Please, for the love of god, issue us with this points deduction or just drop it. It’s torturous and beyond a joke now. They need to get on with it. Then we can start a long appeal to the CAS that means no one will know who is relegated at the end of the season. 1
ClaphamFox Posted 2 February Posted 2 February 27 minutes ago, Katy said: Please, for the love of god, issue us with this points deduction or just drop it. It’s torturous and beyond a joke now. “Hey Premier League! Leicester here. Listen, this PSR stuff has been dragging on a bit, hasn’t it? Shall we just drop it?” ”Yeah alright.” Why not? Worth a try…. 2
Bluetintedspecs Posted 2 February Posted 2 February Terraloon with his clear knowledge and explanations of the rule changes and potential implications is very helpful, randoms coming on quoting punishment numbers, that are clearly plucked out of the air or wind ups , are not! 3
Dahnsouff Posted 2 February Posted 2 February 1 hour ago, em9999 said: You only get 9 points deducted for going into administration How the hell could we get 10 Multiple instances?
Katy Posted 2 February Posted 2 February (edited) 1 hour ago, ClaphamFox said: “Hey Premier League! Leicester here. Listen, this PSR stuff has been dragging on a bit, hasn’t it? Shall we just drop it?” ”Yeah alright.” Why not? Worth a try…. 😂 You know what I mean though, either they have enough to charge us with or they don’t. I know it’s not that simple but it’s taking the piss now. Edited 2 February by Katy 1
ClaphamFox Posted 2 February Posted 2 February (edited) 30 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said: Multiple instances? I'm pretty sure the IC was only looking into one charge. Although we were originally charged for 22/23 the case was never heard because an appeal board accepted our argument that the PL didn't have jurisdiction. A tribunal later said they disagreed with the appeal board's decision, but the threshold was too great for them to consider a reversal (ie, the PL couldn't punish us for that period). So I think the IC is only looking at 23/24. @Terraloon may be able to confirm. Edited 2 February by ClaphamFox 2
Sky Blues Posted 2 February Posted 2 February For those blaming the FL and/or PL for the points deduction hanging over your club....if you took the punishment the first or second time you would have been able to be in a much better position now. The problem is that the clueless idiots ruining your club decided to kick the can down the road in the hope of getting more Prem payments. I still stick to what I said on here last year. They will make the punishment as watertight as they can before trying again. They will now wait to see if the punishment will stop you from getting into the playoffs or aid relegation. If neither is the case any points deduction will come into force next season.
Chelmofox Posted 2 February Posted 2 February 1 hour ago, ClaphamFox said: “Hey Premier League! Leicester here. Listen, this PSR stuff has been dragging on a bit, hasn’t it? Shall we just drop it?” ”Yeah alright.” Why not? Worth a try…. “Hi Leicester. It’s the Premier League here. Listen, this PSR stuff has been going on a long time hasn’t it? How about you just take the 10 points and we can all get back to our day jobs. Sound ok right?” 1
coolhandfox Posted 2 February Posted 2 February 2 minutes ago, Sky Blues said: For those blaming the FL and/or PL for the points deduction hanging over your club....if you took the punishment the first or second time you would have been able to be in a much better position now. The problem is that the clueless idiots ruining your club decided to kick the can down the road in the hope of getting more Prem payments. I still stick to what I said on here last year. They will make the punishment as watertight as they can before trying again. They will now wait to see if the punishment will stop you from getting into the playoffs or aid relegation. If neither is the case any points deduction will come into force next season. Maybe you should be worrying about Coventry form. Why weren't you on here when you were crap. 1
ClaphamFox Posted 2 February Posted 2 February 1 minute ago, Chelmofox said: “Hi Leicester. It’s the Premier League here. Listen, this PSR stuff has been going on a long time hasn’t it? How about you just take the 10 points and we can all get back to our day jobs. Sound ok right?” "Ok, fine. But 12 points, not 10, ok?" (Unfortunately Rudkin answered the phone). 3
kenny Posted 2 February Posted 2 February 7 minutes ago, Sky Blues said: For those blaming the FL and/or PL for the points deduction hanging over your club....if you took the punishment the first or second time you would have been able to be in a much better position now. The problem is that the clueless idiots ruining your club decided to kick the can down the road in the hope of getting more Prem payments. I still stick to what I said on here last year. They will make the punishment as watertight as they can before trying again. They will now wait to see if the punishment will stop you from getting into the playoffs or aid relegation. If neither is the case any points deduction will come into force next season. They will absolutely want maximum effect. The beauty being, if we are relegated then there is every chance we can have a points deduction every season for the foreseeable future. 1
Les-TA-Jon Posted 2 February Posted 2 February 15 minutes ago, Sky Blues said: For those blaming the FL and/or PL for the points deduction hanging over your club....if you took the punishment the first or second time you would have been able to be in a much better position now. The problem is that the clueless idiots ruining your club decided to kick the can down the road in the hope of getting more Prem payments. I still stick to what I said on here last year. They will make the punishment as watertight as they can before trying again. They will now wait to see if the punishment will stop you from getting into the playoffs or aid relegation. If neither is the case any points deduction will come into force next season. 7 minutes ago, kenny said: They will absolutely want maximum effect. The beauty being, if we are relegated then there is every chance we can have a points deduction every season for the foreseeable future. Pretty sure the EFL/PL don't get a say in the final punishment or the timing of it? They've charged us months ago. They suggest a punishment. Then all the deliberations and appeals etc happen. Then the independent commission decide on a final outcome. All of this + the complexities of our unique case causes the delay. The PL/EFL don't get to 'wait to see if the punishment stops us getting playoffs or could relegate us' 1
kenny Posted 2 February Posted 2 February 8 minutes ago, Les-TA-Jon said: Pretty sure the EFL/PL don't get a say in the final punishment or the timing of it? They've charged us months ago. They suggest a punishment. Then all the deliberations and appeals etc happen. Then the independent commission decide on a final outcome. All of this + the complexities of our unique case causes the delay. The PL/EFL don't get to 'wait to see if the punishment stops us getting playoffs or could relegate us' I do agree. But I have seen nothing to suggest that the PL/EFL don't have a real desire to punish the club. Im always of the opinion that the PL & EFL should want to avoid punishing clubs and that points deductions should be last resort. They appear externally to enjoy the relish of chasing clubs down and dishing out the points deductions. Look at Sheffield Wednesday as an outside observer. Is the actions of their owner punishment enough? Why is there never talk of the 'fans being punished' when it isn't a big 6 club? 1
Permafrost Posted 2 February Posted 2 February (edited) 2 hours ago, em9999 said: You only get 9 points deducted for going into administration How the hell could we get 10 It's 12 points deduction for administration in the EFL. Various online sources state this, but here is the general overview, with a BBC link below too. In the English Football League (EFL), clubs entering administration receive an automatic 12-point deduction. This penalty aims to maintain sporting integrity while the club undergoes financial restructuring. Additional penalties may apply if the club fails to meet specific financial obligations, such as paying creditors. Key Details Regarding Administration Penalties: Automatic 12 Points: This is the standard penalty applied to clubs in the Championship, League One, or League Two, according to BBC. Timing: The deduction is applied immediately, potentially leading to immediate relegation for struggling teams, notes Whitesides Chartered Accountants. Context: Recent examples include Sheffield Wednesday in 2025 and Derby County in 2021, say reports from ESPN and BBC. Further Deductions: Additional points can be deducted for failure to pay "football creditors" (such as players or staff) or failure to comply with league regulations, note sources like STAR – Supporters Trust At Reading and Sky Sports. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/articles/c891gjlxpv1o Edited 2 February by Permafrost 1
LCFCCKEANO Posted 2 February Posted 2 February Could swear I saw something saying the initial will be around 4 points and any extra deduction will be for not assisting in the investigation, think it lands between 4-7, don’t think the prem or EFL will want another loud and potentially embarrassing saga here, think they will want something severe but also something that our lot will accept
Terraloon Posted 2 February Posted 2 February 42 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said: I'm pretty sure the IC was only looking into one charge. Although we were originally charged for 22/23 the case was never heard because an appeal board accepted our argument that the PL didn't have jurisdiction. A tribunal later said they disagreed with the appeal board's decision, but the threshold was too great for them to consider a reversal (ie, the PL couldn't punish us for that period). So I think the IC is only looking at 23/24. @Terraloon may be able to confirm. Yep that’s correct in terms of an FFP charge but of course there are 3 charges. Of course however the excesses of 21/2 &22/23 irrespective will be factored in and had there been a deduction in respect of the earlier two years , bearing in mind the EFL rules around double jeopardy then any sanction being faced for 23/4 would be nothing. I can’t get my mind clear re the other two charges but the rule change which enables punishments handed down following a PL charge may give grounds to argue that the offence/ s were prior to that rule change but without seeing time lines it’s impossible to even get a perspective 2
foxfanazer Posted 2 February Posted 2 February I'd rather we just take the hit on everything now and at least start with a clean slate going forward. The club needs a major reset in almost every aspect and yes it might be painful for the next few years but so be it. Nothing can be worse than the last few years
Les-TA-Jon Posted 2 February Posted 2 February 13 minutes ago, foxfanazer said: I'd rather we just take the hit on everything now and at least start with a clean slate going forward. The club needs a major reset in almost every aspect and yes it might be painful for the next few years but so be it. Nothing can be worse than the last few years It gets worse than the last few years if we get relegated, so... 1
Spanner73 Posted 2 February Posted 2 February 16 hours ago, VLC86 said: Nothing screams learning your lesson quite like when we signed Winks and Coady by paying them about £150k a week at this level, or signing Skipp for £25m. It amazes me how people plead like we are being treated unfairly. We’ve got the biggest wage bill in the league and are shit, because we signed shit and we don’t have a clear pathway to clearing the money we owe elsewhere. That is not the league or authorities, that’s us. Exactly !!! stop talking about how unfair it is and look at Man City etc etc We deserve what we get !!!! Unfortunately Dumb & Dumber will blame everyone else, instead of looking in the mirror, stick their fingers in their ears like 2 four olds na nah nah I’m not listening!!! Instead of taking any responsibility whatsoever so you reap what you sow We deserve to be relegated !!! 1
foxfanazer Posted 2 February Posted 2 February 9 minutes ago, Les-TA-Jon said: It gets worse than the last few years if we get relegated, so... Not necessarily, if it forces change in the club then I'd take it. The last time we went down to league one didn't do us any harm in the grand scheme of things. Carrying on as we are is doing nobody any good and the apathy from the fanbase is the worst I've known it 1
Spanner73 Posted 2 February Posted 2 February 4 minutes ago, foxfanazer said: Not necessarily, if it forces change in the club then I'd take it. The last time we went down to league one didn't do us any harm in the grand scheme of things. Carrying on as we are is doing nobody any good and the apathy from the fanbase is the worst I've known it Exactly !! I’d like to say it’ll change something in them in terms of punishment but it won’t
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