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Posted
1 minute ago, st albans fox said:

As expected 

is there any significance in the timing re the sabre rattling ongoing across the European continent ??

Good question, there might be but wouldn't be sure on that one.

Posted
46 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c63d7lexyym1o

 

Rehashing what is essentially an existing deal and selling it as a win. How very on brand for the used car salesman con artist ethos currently prevalent over there.

With the fact that the Americans had drastically reduced their own military presence there over recent decades by choice entirely missing from the discourse.

 

A golden age of people not knowing anything or even wanting to

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Posted
57 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

The "and all other things" part is a little worrying.

It is, but seeing as the man and everyone around him/who backs him lie as easily as most people breathe, I'm willing to wait a little to see how this plays out.

 

One would think and hope that the Danes, at least, have been sensible. 

Posted
4 hours ago, leicsmac said:

It is, but seeing as the man and everyone around him/who backs him lie as easily as most people breathe, I'm willing to wait a little to see how this plays out.

 

One would think and hope that the Danes, at least, have been sensible. 

@shen, do you have a sensible government?

Posted
2 hours ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

@shen, do you have a sensible government?

Meh, not as sensible as what we used to have. Hopefully they didn't give Trump more than what his aggression deserves. 

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Posted
2 hours ago, leicsmac said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c54g7jdmw032o

 

Interesting that the juror decided to waive his right to anonymity. And it goes to show jury nullification is free to cut in all directions.

I think that proving anything, even things we largely take for granted, beyond reasonable doubt, to everyone, is nigh on impossible.

 

I think the hold out juror doesn't understand what beyond reasonable doubt means.

Posted (edited)
14 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

I think that proving anything, even things we largely take for granted, beyond reasonable doubt, to everyone, is nigh on impossible.

 

I think the hold out juror doesn't understand what beyond reasonable doubt means.

I think it's an extreme probability that you're right, and/or the juror is making a decision based on his own personal conscience and prejudices, rather than the strict application of the law as it should be. 

 

Be that as it may in this particular case, I do however think the right to nullify a jury verdict based on such principles is an important one that merits protection, as it acts as an additional check and balance against overzealous judiciary and governments passing overzealous legislation. Which, IMO, is sometimes very much necessary. 

 

In short, while I think the bloke had it wrong in this case (for the same reason as you), I'm going to agree with his right to be wrong and act upon it here.  

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Posted
44 minutes ago, TeamRocket said:

Anyone seen some news about stocking up on tinned items? A friend at work just said to me its all over the news. Other than BBC and telegraph not really seen much.

Just standard government advice on stocking up on certain long life essential food/drink, if the supply change was interrupted by climate change, disease, cyber attacks or conflict. Nothing sensationalist. A standard message that is repeated every so often.

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Posted
1 hour ago, TeamRocket said:

Anyone seen some news about stocking up on tinned items? A friend at work just said to me its all over the news. Other than BBC and telegraph not really seen much.

 

52 minutes ago, westernpark said:

Just standard government advice on stocking up on certain long life essential food/drink, if the supply change was interrupted by climate change, disease, cyber attacks or conflict. Nothing sensationalist. A standard message that is repeated every so often.



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c20veglyjp8o 

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Posted

We changed the things we keep in stock after the 24 hour power outage in Spain. Our charged power bank was invaluable, we shared it between 4 of us and it kept us all going.

 

Our gas bbq also proved worthwhile, no electricity and we could still make a cup of tea lol and cook dinner. Also candles and a means to light them when it got dark. 

 

We just found we had to be a bit inventive with the things we already had in, but it sharpened our minds a little to remind us not to take power for granted, and to have a bit of a plan. 

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Posted
8 minutes ago, FoxesDeb said:

We changed the things we keep in stock after the 24 hour power outage in Spain. Our charged power bank was invaluable, we shared it between 4 of us and it kept us all going.

 

Our gas bbq also proved worthwhile, no electricity and we could still make a cup of tea lol and cook dinner. Also candles and a means to light them when it got dark. 

 

We just found we had to be a bit inventive with the things we already had in, but it sharpened our minds a little to remind us not to take power for granted, and to have a bit of a plan. 

First reading of someone making a cuppa on a BBQ, kudos!

 

Wind up radio is my only genuine zombie apocalypse purchase.

Posted
2 hours ago, westernpark said:

Just standard government advice on stocking up on certain long life essential food/drink, if the supply change was interrupted by climate change, disease, cyber attacks or conflict. Nothing sensationalist. A standard message that is repeated every so often.

Ohh okay then was abit worried to be honest with everything thats happening in the world. 

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We regularly had power outages in the winter when we lived in Northern Ireland, which could be quite long. When we had an Aga we were sorted for cooking and hot drinks, the first time after we got rid of it we realised how much another fuel type was useful. We invested in a gas camping stove. 

It was always quite normal to keep a selection of emergency items, long life milk, soup etc. A phone that plugged in. 

It's something we've not done since moving back but I might reinstate the emergency section of the cupboard. 

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Posted
1 hour ago, FoyleFox said:

We regularly had power outages in the winter when we lived in Northern Ireland, which could be quite long. When we had an Aga we were sorted for cooking and hot drinks, the first time after we got rid of it we realised how much another fuel type was useful. We invested in a gas camping stove. 

It was always quite normal to keep a selection of emergency items, long life milk, soup etc. A phone that plugged in. 

It's something we've not done since moving back but I might reinstate the emergency section of the cupboard. 

Aren't all Landlines being phased out?

 

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Posted
1 hour ago, davieG said:

Aren't all Landlines being phased out?

 

Yes and no. The copper ones are, but you can get a filter for your landline so it can use the Fibre Optic network that you plug in between your socket and the phone. Only thing is if the internet network goes down, it takes the phone line out too. They recommended to my grandad to have a mobile charged in case he needed the emergency services during an outage. He needed a phone in case his phone stopped working. 

 

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Posted
32 minutes ago, ramboacdc said:

Yes and no. The copper ones are, but you can get a filter for your landline so it can use the Fibre Optic network that you plug in between your socket and the phone. Only thing is if the internet network goes down, it takes the phone line out too. They recommended to my grandad to have a mobile charged in case he needed the emergency services during an outage. He needed a phone in case his phone stopped working. 

 

That's what I thought we got an 'internet phone' and as you said it's no good if the internet crashes.

Posted (edited)
46 minutes ago, ramboacdc said:

Yes and no. The copper ones are, but you can get a filter for your landline so it can use the Fibre Optic network that you plug in between your socket and the phone. Only thing is if the internet network goes down, it takes the phone line out too. They recommended to my grandad to have a mobile charged in case he needed the emergency services during an outage. He needed a phone in case his phone stopped working. 

 

I was recently forced to change internet providers to EE, because Plusnet couldn't or wouldn't continue providing my landline phone service. This meant having a new hub, into which my old pulse-tone phone is plugged, and the original phone number carries on as before. Any local calls I make now need the 0116 code to be included. Even though Plusnet instigated the (unwanted) transfer to EE, that hasn't stopped them from charging me a cancellation fee and sending various text messages saying how sorry they are to lose me as a customer!

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Well, I can understand the complaints being made here, but I do feel compelled to make the point that should the kak really hit the fan, the old landlines will be no more robust than the fibre-optic or mobile Internet networks. 

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