General News Thread

[ajthefox]

23 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

I'm just wondering who the hell do Amazon think wants to go to the cinema to watch a documentary about Donald Trump's trophy wife, outside of the USA?

 

Surely going to be a massive turkey.

It's not about what viewers want is it, it's Bezos snuggling up to Trump.

[Sampson]

33 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

I'm just wondering who the hell do Amazon think wants to go to the cinema to watch a documentary about Donald Trump's trophy wife, outside of the USA?

 

Surely going to be a massive turkey.

I don’t think they think anyone will either. The big tech bros like Bezos, Musk. Zuckerberg etc. sucker up to Trump so that he lets them do what they want with low tax, no privacy laws and unregulated technology and AI in a BioShock style Libertarian state. It’s no more complicated than that.

Edited 30 January by Sampson

[Likely Fox]

Liberty 🗽 

[Sampson]

1 hour ago, Likely Fox said:

Liberty 🗽 

Darkness at the break of noon
Shadows even the silver spoon
The handmade blade, the child’s balloon
Eclipses both the sun and moon
To understand you know too soon
There is no sense in trying

Pointed threats, they bluff with scorn
Suicide remarks are torn
From the fool’s gold mouthpiece the hollow horn
Plays wasted words, proves to warn
That he not busy being born is busy dying

Temptation’s page flies out the door
You follow, find yourself at war
Watch waterfalls of pity roar
You feel to moan but unlike before
You discover that you’d just be one more
Person crying

So don’t fear if you hear
A foreign sound to your ear
It’s alright, Ma, I’m only sighing

As some warn victory, some downfall
Private reasons great or small
Can be seen in the eyes of those that call
To make all that should be killed to crawl
While others say don’t hate nothing at all
Except hatred

Disillusioned words like bullets bark
As human gods aim for their mark
Make everything from toy guns that spark
To flesh-colored Christs that glow in the dark
It’s easy to see without looking too far
That not much is really sacred

While preachers preach of evil fates
Teachers teach that knowledge waits
Can lead to hundred-dollar plates
Goodness hides behind its gates
But even the president of the United States
Sometimes must have to stand naked

An’ though the rules of the road have been lodged
It’s only people’s games that you got to dodge
And it’s alright, Ma, I can make it

Advertising signs they con
You into thinking you’re the one
That can do what’s never been done
That can win what’s never been won
Meantime life outside goes on
All around you

You lose yourself, you reappear
You suddenly find you got nothing to fear
Alone you stand with nobody near
When a trembling distant voice, unclear
Startles your sleeping ears to hear
That somebody thinks they really found you

A question in your nerves is lit
Yet you know there is no answer fit
To satisfy, insure you not to quit
To keep it in your mind and not forget
That it is not he or she or them or it
That you belong to

Although the masters make the rules
For the wise men and the fools
I got nothing, Ma, to live up to

For them that must obey authority
That they do not respect in any degree
Who despise their jobs, their destinies
Speak jealously of them that are free
Cultivate their flowers to be
Nothing more than something they invest in

While some on principles baptized
To strict party platform ties
Social clubs in drag disguise
Outsiders they can freely criticize
Tell nothing except who to idolize
And then say God bless him

While one who sings with his tongue on fire
Gargles in the rat race choir
Bent out of shape from society’s pliers
Cares not to come up any higher
But rather get you down in the hole
That he’s in

But I mean no harm nor put fault
On anyone that lives in a vault
But it’s alright, Ma, if I can’t please him

Old lady judges watch people in pairs
Limited in sex, they dare
To push fake morals, insult and stare
While money doesn’t talk, it swears
Obscenity, who really cares
Propaganda, all is phony

While them that defend what they cannot see
With a killer’s pride, security
It blows the minds most bitterly
For them that think death’s honesty
Won’t fall upon them naturally
Life sometimes must get lonely

My eyes collide head-on with stuffed
Graveyards, false gods, I scuff
At pettiness which plays so rough
Walk upside-down inside handcuffs
Kick my legs to crash it off
Say okay, I have had enough
what else can you show me?

And if my thought-dreams could be seen
They’d probably put my head in a guillotine
But it’s alright, Ma, it’s life… and life only

[oxford blue]

Returning to the deaths on the Streets of Minneapolis this is a powerful video behind the best protest song for decades

 

 

[leicsmac]

A thought experiment, to gauge just how robust the system of "checks and balances" is right now:

 

If a matter akin to Watergate in its style and execution were to be carried out by the current US administration, would events play out in the same way as they did 50 years ago? And why or why not?

[leicsmac]

Additionally, it's interesting how the ideas of Nixons "counter government" and Trump's "deep state" are so alike. 

 

It's almost as if they are alike in thinking being President means absolutely zero accountability except from those who support them. 

[Trav Le Bleu]

More bizarreness.

 

Donald Trump sues IRS and US Treasury over leaked tax documents - BBC News

 

https://share.google/yPwjj83Lyxqf78Pxy

 

So you stand for government on a policy to reduce taxes... and then you sue the institution that runs the taxes.

 

How does this help make America great? It makes Donald richer, certainly, but surely it's just taking money raised for civil services for his own personal wealth.

 

Essentially he's a robber baron.

[MaidstoneFox]

2 hours ago, leicsmac said:

A thought experiment, to gauge just how robust the system of "checks and balances" is right now:

 

If a matter akin to Watergate in its style and execution were to be carried out by the current US administration, would events play out in the same way as they did 50 years ago? And why or why not?

Trump has no morality or sense of remorse, while his general strategy is to lie and attack the opponent with counter-claims, law suits and abuse. I expect that's how it would play out. In general he creates so much noise, distraction and chaos to exhaust the opponent, that it becomes quite difficult to organise a coherent response. He would be throwing billion-dollar lawsuits at Woodward and Bernstein.

[MaidstoneFox]

6 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

More bizarreness.

 

Donald Trump sues IRS and US Treasury over leaked tax documents - BBC News

 

https://share.google/yPwjj83Lyxqf78Pxy

 

So you stand for government on a policy to reduce taxes... and then you sue the institution that runs the taxes.

 

How does this help make America great? It makes Donald richer, certainly, but surely it's just taking money raised for civil services for his own personal wealth.

 

Essentially he's a robber baron.

A daily, crazy soap opera.

 

20 years ago if someone had told me that in the future,  old white billionaires, CEOs and the Chairman of the Fed were being sued by the President, I would have suggested that America must have voted in a socialist.

[Lionator]

When Reform politicians say that we’re going to go back to the good old days, how are they going to do it? And what were the good old days??

[st albans fox]

19 minutes ago, Lionator said:

When Reform politicians say that we’re going to go back to the good old days, how are they going to do it? And what were the good old days??

for those of a certain vintage …….

[Dahnsouff]

39 minutes ago, Lionator said:

When Reform politicians say that we’re going to go back to the good old days, how are they going to do it? And what were the good old days??

Serfdom had an old school vibe.....

[Lionator]

22 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

Serfdom had an old school vibe.....

But why do so many people seem to want that? I don’t get it? Half my family estranged with me because I had a mixed race (now ex) girlfriend. Then people complain when I say my mental health isn’t great even though they treat me like that. 

Edited 31 January by Lionator

[Robo61]

58 minutes ago, Lionator said:

When Reform politicians say that we’re going to go back to the good old days, how are they going to do it? And what were the good old days??

When we were free to spit at Black and Asian people in the street,  when landlords could advertise no dogs/blacks/Jews/Irish.  When giving a kicking to someone who appeared to be a gay was a normal saturday night out,  and when beating up the misses was part of everyday domestic life , what a what a great time to be alive it must have been. 

[leicsmac]

5 minutes ago, Lionator said:

But why do so many people seem to want that? I don’t get it? Half my family estranged with me because I had a mixed race (now ex) girlfriend. Then people complain when I say my mental health isn’t great even though they treat me like that. 

Because enough people like the idea of inbuilt hierarchy and social Darwinism, and social media has given those people extensive reach. Enough reach to be able for it to appear as things are now.

 

Quite apart from it being morally abhorrent (which they might have an counterargument for), such ideas based on division will, inevitably, doom us all. So it's death-worship dressed up in some self-serving idea of demographic supremacy. It's darkly funny how most often they choose not to see that, though.

[Trav Le Bleu]

1 hour ago, Lionator said:

When Reform politicians say that we’re going to go back to the good old days, how are they going to do it? And what were the good old days??

Introduce rationing 

Change currency to LSD (no, not that one)

Reduce TV channels to 2

Bring back hanging

Women not allowed to vote

Bomb London 

 

[Dahnsouff]

12 minutes ago, Lionator said:

But why do so many people seem to want that? I don’t get it? Half my family estranged with me because I had a mixed race (now ex) girlfriend. Then people complain when I say my mental health isn’t great even though they treat me like that. 

Because the past (Or some other time or place) is painted as success or desirability, this allows people to first recognise what they think they need,  and then to be told which actor (usually a demographic) is to blame for them not having it.

[MaidstoneFox]

2 hours ago, Lionator said:

When Reform politicians say that we’re going to go back to the good old days, how are they going to do it? And what were the good old days??

Just pushing the buttons of their demographic, who are mostly 50+. It encapsulates a return to a simpler life, or at least one where you could go to the high street and shops weren't closed down or populated with nail bars, barbers and vape shops.

[leicsmac]

46 minutes ago, MaidstoneFox said:

Just pushing the buttons of their demographic, who are mostly 50+. It encapsulates a return to a simpler life, or at least one where you could go to the high street and shops weren't closed down or populated with nail bars, barbers and vape shops.

The very idea of such stasis runs counter to the facts of evolutionary history concerning survival that Darwin codified and have only been expanded on since anyway. 

 

"It is not the strongest of the species that survives, not the most intelligent that survives. It is the one that is the most adaptable to change."

 

This has been shown to be true time and time again. 

 

Could possibly be why a lot of people who value such stasis often wrap themselves in the denial of such fact offered by organised religious or other sources. 

 

It's just unfortunate that such denial affects often far more than just them. 

[Lionator]

1 hour ago, MaidstoneFox said:

Just pushing the buttons of their demographic, who are mostly 50+. It encapsulates a return to a simpler life, or at least one where you could go to the high street and shops weren't closed down or populated with nail bars, barbers and vape shops.

None of these things are going to happen though as the world has completely changed

[leicsmac]

51 minutes ago, Lionator said:

None of these things are going to happen though as the world has completely changed

And now we are seeing just how powerful and destructive a sentiment denial can be.

[Sampson]

2 hours ago, MaidstoneFox said:

Just pushing the buttons of their demographic, who are mostly 50+. It encapsulates a return to a simpler life, or at least one where you could go to the high street and shops weren't closed down or populated with nail bars, barbers and vape shops.

Always reminds me of this 

 

 

[danny.]

1 hour ago, Lionator said:

None of these things are going to happen though as the world has completely changed

100%, and not for the better. We will never go back, but it's obvious why people would love to if it was possible. 

[leicsmac]

14 minutes ago, danny. said:

100%, and not for the better. We will never go back, but it's obvious why people would love to if it was possible. 

It is obvious. But encouraging that sentiment leads only to disaster.