Sheff Wed -10th Aug 16:30 - First up?

[LCFCJohn]

17 minutes ago, foxfanazer said:

Is that really what happens? 

I think it has. Might have been one of Bury or Bolton. Probably Bury as they went further into the shit. Pretty sure results gained against them (if it was them) were wiped but I haven’t fact checked this!

[HitchinFox]

1 hour ago, Winstonthedog said:

Worryingly.... is Sheff W ...  a mirror to our future 

Exactly. Hence anyone gloating should do so with caution. Not that any of us have here, but have seen some other clubs' fans take joy in Wednesday's plight. Leeds being one obvious one. 

[FrankieADZ]

1 hour ago, Winstonthedog said:

Worryingly.... is Sheff W ...  a mirror to our future 

yes and no, LCFC as an all around club are in a better state compared to Sheff Weds

[Sol thewall Bamba]

1 hour ago, FrankieADZ said:

yes and no, LCFC as an all around club are in a better state compared to Sheff Weds

Our position has declined every season for the last 4. If you said on here that we'd be in the position we are now after the Roma semi final you'd be laughed off the forum.

 

I personally don't think it'll get as bad as Wednesday but to brush off any thought of further decline under King Power is just delusion.

Edited 31 July 2025 by Sol thewall Bamba

[BeaumontFox]

If this doesn’t go ahead, I assume all ST holders will be awarded a partial refund by the right honourable Aiyawatt Srivaddhanaprabha? 

Edited 31 July 2025 by BeaumontFox

[ren]

14 minutes ago, BeaumontFox said:

If this doesn’t go ahead, I assume all ST holders will be awarded a partial refund by the right honourable Aiyawatt Srivaddhanaprabha? 

Free donut in the second half of the season 

[FrankieADZ]

53 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

Our position has declined every season for the last 4. If you said on here that we'd be in the position we are now after the Roma semi final you'd be laughed off the forum.

 

I personally don't think it'll get as bad as Wednesday but to brush off any thought of further decline under King Power is just delusion.

thats what I mean, i dont think it will get as bad as Wednesday, and I didnt brush it off either tbh

you can see the decline in the club, its been there for a long while, Id say even before the Roma semi

[LCFCJohn]

1 hour ago, FrankieADZ said:

yes and no, LCFC as an all around club are in a better state compared to Sheff Weds

In fairness they were doing alright a few years back and got to the play off final and another play off campaign so were close to getting promotion. They have gone on to decline massively but we have in the last 4 years since the FA Cup win.

 

If you had said after the FA cup win, in 4 years time we’ll have been relegated twice, been in a PSR cycle, threats of deductions and embargo’s and the all round apathy from the club, you’d have been laughed out the room as being mad. Even the most negative fan couldn’t have seriously thought we’d be where we are today.

 

It begs the question, where will we be 4 years from now?

 

An Thai owner who is not bothered, overly sensitive and doesn’t take criticism well, inherited a business he is not skilled to manager and has tanked it and values things too highly meaning they can’t be shifted. Is that a description of Chansiri or Aiyawatt or both?

[FrankieADZ]

1 minute ago, LCFCJohn said:

In fairness they were doing alright a few years back and got to the play off final and another play off campaign so were close to getting promotion. They have gone on to decline massively but we have in the last 4 years since the FA Cup win.

 

If you had said after the FA cup win, in 4 years time we’ll have been relegated twice, been in a PSR cycle, threats of deductions and embargo’s and the all round apathy from the club, you’d have been laughed out the room as being mad. Even the most negative fan couldn’t have seriously thought we’d be where we are today.

 

It begs the question, where will we be 4 years from now?

 

An Thai owner who is not bothered, overly sensitive and doesn’t take criticism well, inherited a business he is not skilled to manager and has tanked it and values things too highly meaning they can’t be shifted. Is that a description of Chansiri or Aiyawatt or both?

in terms of better state, Ill go into wider, we have a lot better training ground, ground, players, youth set up, looks like(very minor) they might be getting ducks in a row, trying to shift big wages etc, 

even 4 odd years ago you could see the cracks, the way form dipped and then giving Rodgers more power behind the scenes(many saw it back then too), where the club went away from the model we had previous in sell one asset a season, 

 

so looking at the whole, LCFC are in a better state in terms of a club compared to Sheff Wed

for one, at least our north stand has hot running water

[Guest Bilo]

2 hours ago, LCFCJohn said:

I think it has. Might have been one of Bury or Bolton. Probably Bury as they went further into the shit. Pretty sure results gained against them (if it was them) were wiped but I haven’t fact checked this!

It was Bury. Bolton were just about able to cobble together some youth team players for the first couple of weeks of the season, but did eventually postpone a game to protect their kids given their average age was about 18.

 

Whether Sheffield Wednesday have the capacity in their youth squad to do this at a higher level of football remains to be seen, though.

Edited 31 July 2025 by Bilo

[LCFCJohn]

10 minutes ago, FrankieADZ said:

in terms of better state, Ill go into wider, we have a lot better training ground, ground, players, youth set up, looks like(very minor) they might be getting ducks in a row, trying to shift big wages etc, 

even 4 odd years ago you could see the cracks, the way form dipped and then giving Rodgers more power behind the scenes(many saw it back then too), where the club went away from the model we had previous in sell one asset a season, 

 

so looking at the whole, LCFC are in a better state in terms of a club compared to Sheff Wed

for one, at least our north stand has hot running water

Yeah I get you. Our infrastructure is better. I mean you can see the decline around the stadium due to lack of investment but given it is a much newer stadium than Hillsborough, we shouldn’t find ourselves in that position.

 

And yeah, I could see the decline under Rodgers earlier than most did but I still wouldn’t have predicted quite the level of decline even though I thought we would be relegated if we kept him but the off the field stuff is beyond even that.

 

But it is a worry, when you see people like Chansiri and Aiyawatt cut from the same cloth really, how much could he tank us?

[Philkeavo]

2 hours ago, FrankieADZ said:

yes and no, LCFC as an all around club are in a better state compared to Sheff Weds

At the moment.

[KFS]

Waited all summer for two Thai blokes to ****ing wind me up 

[FrankieADZ]

50 minutes ago, LCFCJohn said:

Yeah I get you. Our infrastructure is better. I mean you can see the decline around the stadium due to lack of investment but given it is a much newer stadium than Hillsborough, we shouldn’t find ourselves in that position.

 

And yeah, I could see the decline under Rodgers earlier than most did but I still wouldn’t have predicted quite the level of decline even though I thought we would be relegated if we kept him but the off the field stuff is beyond even that.

 

But it is a worry, when you see people like Chansiri and Aiyawatt cut from the same cloth really, how much could he tank us?

its all what happens when a club get comfortable, football is a fluid industry in every sense, 

 

thing is I wouldnt even put Top in the same ball park as Chansiri as an owner, as Chansiri has told fans to sell their house etc to buy tickets

sad thing is with Top, he was thrown in at the deep end with being our owner, 

im by no means supporting KP and top, just look at all the angles so to speak

 

34 minutes ago, Philkeavo said:

At the moment.

of course, but it would take something incredibly spectacular for the club to end up like Wednesday

which at this time i just cant see it

[LCFCJohn]

6 minutes ago, FrankieADZ said:

its all what happens when a club get comfortable, football is a fluid industry in every sense, 

 

thing is I wouldnt even put Top in the same ball park as Chansiri as an owner, as Chansiri has told fans to sell their house etc to buy tickets

sad thing is with Top, he was thrown in at the deep end with being our owner, 

im by no means supporting KP and top, just look at all the angles so to speak

 

of course, but it would take something incredibly spectacular for the club to end up like Wednesday

which at this time i just cant see it

I suppose I am thinking what was Chansiri like a few years ago. Wednesday fans would have to answer that. He certainly was funding the side previously and wasn’t saying these things to fans. It seems like like Aiyawatt, he has inherited a business that he isn’t capable of running (the tuna business) and has not got to a point of struggling. Then the personal traits kick in, taking aim at the fans, refusing to sell for a reasonable price and basically being a thin skinned nepo baby.

 

So although we are nowhere like that level and Aiyawatt isn’t like that now, I worry that he has similar traits in that the main business is struggling and he has shown himself to be thin skinned with the way he has address criticism after relegation and we refuse to sell players below our inflated value so if that translated to a sale of the club (if KP couldn’t sustain it) and along with the emotional attachment to Vichai and general sense of apathy, you could completely see a situation where things go down the Wednesday route. He might stop short of going full Chansiri so it likely wouldn’t get as bad but there are similarly worrying patterns imo.

Edited 31 July 2025 by LCFCJohn

[filbertway]

People comparing Wednesday and us are so far off.

Chansiri has just been a genuine knobhead and is literally spite-f**king the club for his own amusement. He's stripped back expenditure as far as possible. The club is running on the least amount of money and staff that it can.

 

Top is negligent and terrible at his job, but he's absolutely nowhere near Chansiri in terms of being a pure evil character. Wednesday aren't in the position they are in due to poor decisions, they are in the position because the chairman wants the club in that position.

[SwfcHamish]

30 minutes ago, LCFCJohn said:

I suppose I am thinking what was Chansiri like a few years ago. Wednesday fans would have to answer that. He certainly was funding the side previously and wasn’t saying these things to fans. It seems like like Aiyawatt, he has inherited a business that he isn’t capable of running (the tuna business) and has not got to a point of struggling. Then the personal traits kick in, taking aim at the fans, refusing to sell for a reasonable price and basically being a thin skinned nepo baby.

 

So although we are nowhere like that level and Aiyawatt isn’t like that now, I worry that he has similar traits in that the main business is struggling and he has shown himself to be thin skinned with the way he has address criticism after relegation and we refuse to sell players below our inflated value so if that translated to a sale of the club (if KP couldn’t sustain it) and along with the emotional attachment to Vichai and general sense of apathy, you could completely see a situation where things go down the Wednesday route. He might stop short of going full Chansiri so it likely wouldn’t get as bad but there are similarly worrying patterns imo.

 

Chansiri has funded very little for 8 years or so. As proven with our trust doing extensive financial research. I don't think I could even begin to list the hundreds of unbelievable things hes done and said in that time. The crazy thing is that because as a club we had been starved of any investment at all for decades his initial 2 year spend (which got us into ffp issues) was treated as if he loved us and was genuinely committed. Little did we know how sinisterly unprepared, unworkable and villainous he would become. Its taken years for some fans to wake up. We are too loyal, nobody wanted to protest. Weve been through such crap for so long that I dont think many really realised we were being run into the ground. 

[tcrofts]

Pederson officially announced as their new manager

[SwfcHamish]

Just so you can get an idea of the guy. Its come to light this week that instead of using money to repair our stand that was at risk of closing he instead used the money to install facial recognition cameras. Members of our supporters trust (responsible for protests) have been followed around the stadium by stewards and harassed for handing out leaflets and flags being taken off people illegally. This chairman is a dictator, straight out of the old school. If he was the leader of a country it'd be North Korea esque. Almost everything that happens at the club is secretive, censored, never told to the fans, twisted, lied about. Senior members of staff dont exist. He's pretty much run the club fully himself with 1 or 2 of his pals who in 10 years have never interacted with a single fan of our club. I can't even begin to imagine what other sinister surprised lay in wait. 

 

 

[Guest worth_the_wait]

7 minutes ago, SwfcHamish said:

Just so you can get an idea of the guy. Its come to light this week that instead of using money to repair our stand that was at risk of closing he instead used the money to install facial recognition cameras. Members of our supporters trust (responsible for protests) have been followed around the stadium by stewards and harassed for handing out leaflets and flags being taken off people illegally. This chairman is a dictator, straight out of the old school. If he was the leader of a country it'd be North Korea esque. Almost everything that happens at the club is secretive, censored, never told to the fans, twisted, lied about. Senior members of staff dont exist. He's pretty much run the club fully himself with 1 or 2 of his pals who in 10 years have never interacted with a single fan of our club. I can't even begin to imagine what other sinister surprised lay in wait. 

 

 

Unfortunately .... many of us would say that part of that applies to our club too.

[FrankieADZ]

 

[Raj]

49 minutes ago, SwfcHamish said:

Just so you can get an idea of the guy. Its come to light this week that instead of using money to repair our stand that was at risk of closing he instead used the money to install facial recognition cameras. Members of our supporters trust (responsible for protests) have been followed around the stadium by stewards and harassed for handing out leaflets and flags being taken off people illegally. This chairman is a dictator, straight out of the old school. If he was the leader of a country it'd be North Korea esque. Almost everything that happens at the club is secretive, censored, never told to the fans, twisted, lied about. Senior members of staff dont exist. He's pretty much run the club fully himself with 1 or 2 of his pals who in 10 years have never interacted with a single fan of our club. I can't even begin to imagine what other sinister surprised lay in wait. 

 

 

How the fvck did he get through the vetting process by the FA?

 

Dont new owners have to be checked etc?

 

 

[CosbehFox]

1 hour ago, Raj said:

How the fvck did he get through the vetting process by the FA?

 

Dont new owners have to be checked etc?

 

 

To start with Chansiri was spending millions. They were in playoffs twice in his first two seasons. It was when he found that was unsustainable and then Wednesday got deducted points, that's where it started to go wrong. He's been there over 10 years. 

[Raj]

Just now, CosbehFox said:

To start with Chansiri was spending millions. They were in playoffs twice in his first two seasons. It was when he found that was unsustainable and then Wednesday got deducted points, that's where it started to go wrong. He's been there over 10 years. 

Ah ok thanks didnt realise he'd been there years.

Surely FA can do something to help the club and its fans- not their fault the guys a know and ruining them?

 

[Sol thewall Bamba]

1 hour ago, Raj said:

How the fvck did he get through the vetting process by the FA?

 

Dont new owners have to be checked etc?

 

 

Wednesday fans loved him until a few seasons ago. He's just a big baby that's lost interest but too proud to sell (doesn't want the embarrassment in Thailand).