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16 minutes ago, RYM said:

Too many degrees and not enough football supporters in the game is the problem. You need a balance for sure but I still stand by the fact that you shouldn’t be anywhere near a supporter facing role if you haven’t served an apprenticeship of paying your way through supporting a club on a cold terrace losing away from home on a Wednesday night and then done it again and again  (so to speak). Not many have of course, which is why so many clubs get it wrong.

 

I'd actually say, and tread carefully when I say it as It's not the be all and end all, that we have too few degrees in senior positions at the club. 


You're right though, i've said on here a few times in the past I got told my application for the club as a graduate 13 years ago was too passionate about my love for the club and that they make a point in hiring of trying not to bring this into the club as it can 'cloud judgement'.....

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22 minutes ago, AjcW said:

I'd actually say, and tread carefully when I say it as It's not the be all and end all, that we have too few degrees in senior positions at the club. 


You're right though, i've said on here a few times in the past I got told my application for the club as a graduate 13 years ago was too passionate about my love for the club and that they make a point in hiring of trying not to bring this into the club as it can 'cloud judgement'.....

TBH I think it can cloud judgement as I’ve seen it in clubs a lot. Heart over head decisions all the time.

I once had Alan Burrows CEO of Aberdeen now but then Motherwell actually crying on me because he couldn’t sack Mark McGhee as he felt too close to him. That’s extreme and wild as anything but that’s a fan in a role they shouldn’t have been in.
 

It’s easier in FE if you’ve attended games supporting other clubs but understand the addiction behind supporting a club. The best out there Tom Gorringe started at Pompey (a fan) in marketing / FE , went to Brighton and Bristol Rovers and is now COO at Swansea, Anthony Emmerson Hartlepool fan doing wonders at Stoke (he is incredible and I’ve advised the FT to talk to him), a guy called Julian Jenkins was a Cardiff fan but he did absolutely incredible stuff there when that crazy owner took over despite all of that. Being a fan actually helped him as he needed to make some massive decisions to get rid of the troublemakers (little angels he called them).

However in our case we just get it wrong.
 

Based on what they’ve said to you, how can you also have Jim (a Rangers fan) an SLO being made into a gif celebrating, if that’s not too close then what is? 
Jim is actually the right type of person to have at a club but kind of in the wrong role. SLO’s should be recruited from the terraces of your own club.

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Posted
6 minutes ago, CosbehFox said:

Notable that Dan Bartlett (not convinced he was any good) whom left the club over the summer to take a position at Hibernian has done a full interview video this week. 
 

So it can be done. Just we have a top tier of directors who don’t want to 

It's amazing how little we hear from our CEO, any other firm of this size and the CEO is incredibly visible. Ours is waiting (and has been for years) for retirement because she doesn't have to drive anything 

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6 minutes ago, CosbehFox said:

Notable that Dan Bartlett (not convinced he was any good) whom left the club over the summer to take a position at Hibernian has done a full interview video this week. 
 

So it can be done. Just we have a top tier of directors who don’t want to 

But why though? Why is there such a reluctance to speak? They used to do it prior to 2016 but something changed. 

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On 06/08/2025 at 09:38, AjcW said:

I'd actually say, and tread carefully when I say it as It's not the be all and end all, that we have too few degrees in senior positions at the club. 


You're right though, i've said on here a few times in the past I got told my application for the club as a graduate 13 years ago was too passionate about my love for the club and that they make a point in hiring of trying not to bring this into the club as it can 'cloud judgement'.....

That's so frustrating to read **** how do you not just support Burton Albion 

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Posted (edited)
9 minutes ago, Nolucklcfc said:

But why though? Why is there such a reluctance to speak? They used to do it prior to 2016 but something changed. 

Because there is no strategy, no plan and therefore nothing to talk about. 
 

If there was any sort of vision or plan you can communicate around that, talk about your decisions and the why’s and relate it back. We have nothing, it’s all reactive and chasing our tails, battling with fans and releasing statements to justify their existence.

 

Transparency comes with accountability and that’s the last thing Tony et al want.

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12 minutes ago, RYM said:

Transparency comes with accountability and that’s the last thing Tony et al want.

Exactly a commitment to talk with a clear reference point for accountability. 
 

Don’t say think anything, there’s never any measure. 
 

We run communications like a geopolitical organisation rather than a football club 

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8 minutes ago, CosbehFox said:

Exactly a commitment to talk with a clear reference point for accountability. 
 

Don’t say think anything, there’s never any measure. 
 

We run communications like a geopolitical organisation rather than a football club 

It’s bonkers mate. No one can say anything because there’s no point of reference.

 

If they came out and said we have a 3,5,10 year plan and here it is, people would have the choice to buy in or not, but it would be clear. It buys the club time. 

 

When you have that vision as we did at Brentford, everyone knows what to say if questioned. Same mentality as the cleaners job at NASA being “helping to get a man on the moon”.

 

Some fans hated the fact they didn’t sign big names and that they were ok losing 1 in 3, but that plan worked and look at them now (could go tits up this season mind).

 

I have no idea what it must be like to work at Tony Towers or what people are doing apart from to fire fight. The only thing they communicate is that FEF which is purely there to toss off the equally useless FSA and to enhance Tony and Immy’s CV’s.

Posted
3 minutes ago, RedSoxUK said:

Can some **** of a sports journalist ask Martì where BDR is...

They can and did on Monday, when the answer was he got injured on international duty and will be out for "some weeks". It seems unlikely the situation will have changed a great deal since then

Posted
5 minutes ago, RedSoxUK said:

Can some **** of a sports journalist ask Martì where BDR is...

As long as he is far away from LE2 im not sure many care where he is 

Posted
8 minutes ago, Guest said:

They can and did on Monday, when the answer was he got injured on international duty and will be out for "some weeks". It seems unlikely the situation will have changed a great deal since then

Oh

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It may have been communicated somewhere, but we seemed to have a goalkeeper coach last Sunday who I’ve never seen before? I foolishly thought that Begavic had been signed with the dual role? But no, who is he? 

Posted
40 minutes ago, ceebeefox said:

It may have been communicated somewhere, but we seemed to have a goalkeeper coach last Sunday who I’ve never seen before? I foolishly thought that Begavic had been signed with the dual role? But no, who is he? 

Academy coaches are still helping out with the goalkeeping. No noise about a new appointment in that department - but said coaches haven't been listed on the website as now first team coaches either. 

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3 hours ago, Guest said:

They can and did on Monday, when the answer was he got injured on international duty and will be out for "some weeks". It seems unlikely the situation will have changed a great deal since then

At least the insurer will be paying his wages.

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Part of this clowns role is to ensure there is a consistent message across the club. That anyone talking to the media or to the public is saying the same things, the same message. 

 

To do this successfully you need a strong relationship with the manager, media team and the players. You need an element of control. It’s brutal but it’s necessary, and tbf it’s really difficult, but it’s doable, most clubs do it correctly. 
 

Yesterday’s defeat shows you where he is at with this type of thing. Nowhere. Not respected and totally void of any control or strategy.
 

Manager saying one thing, a player saying something contradictory.

 


 

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2 minutes ago, RYM said:

Part of this clowns role is to ensure there is a consistent message across the club. That anyone talking to the media or to the public is saying the same things, the same message. 

 

To do this successfully you need a strong relationship with the manager, media team and the players. You need an element of control. It’s brutal but it’s necessary, and tbf it’s really difficult, but it’s doable, most clubs do it correctly. 
 

Yesterday’s defeat shows you where he is at with this type of thing. Nowhere. Not respected and totally void of any control or strategy.
 

Manager saying one thing, a player saying something contradictory.

 


 

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My first initial thought was that the club had identified Abdul as our most popular player  and asked him to post a social media message asking for unity and fans to be 100% behind the team. 

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15 minutes ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

My first initial thought was that the club had identified Abdul as our most popular player  and asked him to post a social media message asking for unity and fans to be 100% behind the team. 

Possibly yeah, whenever I see that horrendous FOXES NEVER QUIT it stinks of management input. A statement that was launched to assure us fans the players would sweat for us, it’s now used as a “gotcha” to say ha, you can’t hate us because FNQ remember?

 

Utter shite also on Tony’s watch. 

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3 minutes ago, RYM said:

Possibly yeah, whenever I see that horrendous FOXES NEVER QUIT its stinks of management input. A statement that was launched to assure us fans the players would sweat for us, it’s now used as a “gotcha” to say ha, you can’t hate us because FNQ remember?

 

Utter shite also on Tony’s watch. 

Thank you for the comms analysis.


My personal view is Abdul’s post about fans leaving early is ill-conceived, especially after a match where one could argue the players failed to turn up!

As you have commented RYM, contrast that with Marti’s humble acknowledgement that fans have the right to be disappointed at the result and performance.

 

The club is so dysfunctional on so many levels now.

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