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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, MaidstoneFox said:

Hopefully this is the low point of the season. By next weekend, we'll have shifted a few of the 'want aways' and the new Bruno Fernandes will have two assists and a goal.

Wishful thinking. By next weekend we will have lost another player and have signed no one. 

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2 hours ago, Bert said:

Unfortunately for some of you, it’s quite clear that Faes is our best centre half. Again we improved when he came on which is strange considering he’s a centre half. I think he has to start against Charlton, alongside Nelson. 

I was mulling this over earlier and came to the same conclusion. He's the first name on the teamsheet for me at the moment. 

 

That does not make me happy but it is the reality we are occupying.   I also agree that we need to be giving Nelson a run alongside him, if we want to do any long-term planning.

 

That's CB sorted, now onto CM and CF....

 

Nope, I have no answers for these two conundrums as frankly all of the current options are too hideous to contemplate.

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I've just seen the highlights. On the 2nd goal Faes reaction to the goal is a disgrace. Running back with his arms out, then when the goal goes in, watch his hand movement and the fact he turns away. 

 

What an unlikeable guy. 

 

 

 

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Spent a lot of time trying to work out where the rot set in on the supporter side of the equation. Was it just after the FA Cup and parts of our fanbase thinking we were bigger than we were? 

 

I only say that because whilst the end of Rodgers reign was painful to watch, Maresca team was a breath of fresh air (mostly). And yet still, the fans didn't gel with him, despite cantering to the title. The appointment of Cooper really seemed to nail the cross in the door and now it's very obvious that we have a large, very toxic element to our fanbase. Not saying that's WHY we're where we are, but it definitely explains part of it. 

 

I then spent a lot of time thinking back to my first games at Filbert Street and really, the supporters weren't much different, so maybe it's just an 'us' thing...

Posted
8 minutes ago, Chief Keef said:

Maybe I’m just delusional but sometimes I feel as a fanbase we are a part of the problem. The team is low on confidence and it certainly can’t help if you know the crowd will react negatively to any misjudgment, rightly or wrongly it kills the appetite for taking risk in some of our players. 
 

We’ve seen before how a supportive fan base can help spur a damaged team on. People will hate to be reminded of this but I distinctly remember the shift in atmosphere when clappers were introduced vs. West Ham in the game which kicked off our great escape. Perhaps it was the performance inspiring the fans, but could equally be the other way around. 
 

I know a lot on here will say our discontent with our decline should be more vocal, and I agree. But it can still go hand in hand with supporting the team. Just look at Wolves fans when they came away to us last season. 

I don't think it's delusional, it's exactly the way I feel too. 
 

There's just barely any goodwill with any of the players, any mistake is catastrophised. 

 

There are ways to vocalise discontent about the decline, we do it in the worst possible way imo. 
 

Even the best manager in the world would struggle here.

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19 minutes ago, Chief Keef said:

Maybe I’m just delusional but sometimes I feel as a fanbase we are a part of the problem. The team is low on confidence and it certainly can’t help if you know the crowd will react negatively to any misjudgment, rightly or wrongly it kills the appetite for taking risk in some of our players. 
 

We’ve seen before how a supportive fan base can help spur a damaged team on. People will hate to be reminded of this but I distinctly remember the shift in atmosphere when clappers were introduced vs. West Ham in the game which kicked off our great escape. Perhaps it was the performance inspiring the fans, but could equally be the other way around. 
 

I know a lot on here will say our discontent with our decline should be more vocal, and I agree. But it can still go hand in hand with supporting the team. Just look at Wolves fans when they came away to us last season. 

Yes, our fans singing ‘We’re f**king sh*t” during the first half today on the first league away game will have done wonders for morale :appl:

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5 minutes ago, Rodney Fern_8 said:

I have returned from Deepdale, also endured the awful display at Huddersfield and will be at The Valley on Saturday but, the worst performance today was not on the pitch. In my opinion, that dubious ‘honour’ goes to our ‘fans’ in the Bill Shankly Kop.

 

When the loudest, and most frequent song heard from that stand, was not a chant giving much-needed support for our players on the pitch, but was an obscene song about Rudkin, then I agree, our fanbase we are a part of the problem, a big part.

 

The Sheffield Wednesday showed us, last Sunday, how real fans support their team, and their plight is far, far worse than ours!


I'd rather those individuals would just stay away. Embarrassing! 


   
 

Plonker 

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6 minutes ago, Rodney Fern_8 said:

I have returned from Deepdale, also endured the awful display at Huddersfield and will be at The Valley on Saturday but, the worst performance today was not on the pitch. In my opinion, that dubious ‘honour’ goes to our ‘fans’ in the Bill Shankly Kop.

 

When the loudest, and most frequent song heard from that stand, was not a chant giving much-needed support for our players on the pitch, but was an obscene song about Rudkin, then I agree, our fanbase we are a part of the problem, a big part.

 

The Sheffield Wednesday showed us, last Sunday, how real fans support their team, and their plight is far, far worse than ours!


I'd rather those individuals would just stay away. Embarrassing! 


   
 

What is this?

Posted
3 minutes ago, stu said:

Yes, our fans singing ‘We’re f**king sh*t” during the first half today on the first league away game will have done wonders for morale :appl:

How do you think it went?

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14 minutes ago, Rodney Fern_8 said:

I have returned from Deepdale, also endured the awful display at Huddersfield and will be at The Valley on Saturday but, the worst performance today was not on the pitch. In my opinion, that dubious ‘honour’ goes to our ‘fans’ in the Bill Shankly Kop.

 

When the loudest, and most frequent song heard from that stand, was not a chant giving much-needed support for our players on the pitch, but was an obscene song about Rudkin, then I agree, our fanbase we are a part of the problem, a big part.

 

The Sheffield Wednesday showed us, last Sunday, how real fans support their team, and their plight is far, far worse than ours!


I'd rather those individuals would just stay away. Embarrassing! 


   
 

Let me guess.

 

You live in  Market Harborough don't you?

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Until we employ footballers who genuinely care and want to play for LCFC there ls nonpoky wasting time on these losers as there not aligned with us as supporters....there's zero passion, zero urgency, zero determination....nothing it's like a watching a dead fish try to swim

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Just now, tickler28 said:

Until we employ footballers who genuinely care and want to play for LCFC there ls nonpoky wasting time on these losers as there not aligned with us as supporters....there's zero passion, zero urgency, zero determination....nothing it's like a watching a dead fish try to swim

True enough, but the attitude of our players is a symptom, not the cause of our problems. Regime change needed

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17 minutes ago, Rodney Fern_8 said:

I have returned from Deepdale, also endured the awful display at Huddersfield and will be at The Valley on Saturday but, the worst performance today was not on the pitch. In my opinion, that dubious ‘honour’ goes to our ‘fans’ in the Bill Shankly Kop.

 

When the loudest, and most frequent song heard from that stand, was not a chant giving much-needed support for our players on the pitch, but was an obscene song about Rudkin, then I agree, our fanbase we are a part of the problem, a big part.

 

The Sheffield Wednesday showed us, last Sunday, how real fans support their team, and their plight is far, far worse than ours!


I'd rather those individuals would just stay away. Embarrassing! 


   
 

On reflection it is both funny and encouraging that "an obscene song about Rudkin" was "the loudest, and most frequent song heard from that stand"! Keep it up lads, more of the same required

Posted
4 minutes ago, Clogger_ said:

How do you think it went?

I saw how it went.

 

The irony and fickleness of our fanbase cannot be more apparent by singing that in one half and then “In good times and the bad, we always back the lads……….”

 

By all means express your views after the half or game, but during the game when the team for whatever reason is low on confidence and/or unity is surely counter productive.


What possible good can come of it?

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46 minutes ago, fox_favourite said:

I've just seen the highlights. On the 2nd goal Faes reaction to the goal is a disgrace. Running back with his arms out, then when the goal goes in, watch his hand movement and the fact he turns away. 

 

What an unlikeable guy. 

 

 

 

That is such a depressing 2 minutes to watch.

 

Jakub's unfathomable ****up

Ayew failing to cut it back

The defending

 

But by far the worst thing was the complete lack of celebration with Monga. Daka just ****ing blanked him. It's disgusting, absolutely disgusting.

 

This team has NO SPINE. 

 

God, what an unlikeable bunch of twats. 

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21 minutes ago, sbfox said:

Spent a lot of time trying to work out where the rot set in on the supporter side of the equation. Was it just after the FA Cup and parts of our fanbase thinking we were bigger than we were? 

 

I only say that because whilst the end of Rodgers reign was painful to watch, Maresca team was a breath of fresh air (mostly). And yet still, the fans didn't gel with him, despite cantering to the title. The appointment of Cooper really seemed to nail the cross in the door and now it's very obvious that we have a large, very toxic element to our fanbase. Not saying that's WHY we're where we are, but it definitely explains part of it. 

 

I then spent a lot of time thinking back to my first games at Filbert Street and really, the supporters weren't much different, so maybe it's just an 'us' thing...

I don't agree with booing your own players but to start blaming the fans for the situation we find ourselves is really sweeping under the carpet the real truth.

Fans cannot be blamed for the gross financial mismanagement of the past few years, a mismanagement that has seen us sign an unfortunate shirt sponsorship deal, that sees us without a shirt sponsor for the start of this season, for the disingenuous statements that the board were confident that we would not be in breach of PSR rules when we clearly were, they can't be blamed for the outrageous deals players have received which have made our financial situation so bad, cannot be blamed for the, on the whole, terrible standard of player recruitment, for the appointment of managers who were clearly wrong for the job, for the apparent total lack of communication between the club and fans. These are just some of the things that have led us to where we are today.

I too recall the days at Filbert Street and I've been watching us for over 50 years. Of course there have always been fans who were disgruntled and showed their feelings whilst at the ground. But there were very few times and seasons where the players didn't appear to be giving their all even though they were not that good. Now we have a squad with a good number of overpaid charlatans who are essentially stealing a living.  Paid a fortune to basically underperform week after week match after match.

It isn't an "us" situation, our fans are no different to other supporters who basically want to see, first a team that tires its best and want to play for the club they support and then hopefully, one that brings some success to the club too. Fans respond to what they see on the pitch and if what they see on a consistent basis is players who don't seem to care, who  off the pitch make statements through their agents that they want to leave the club when we are relegated then I'm afraid they have to expect something in return. I tend to find that goodwill is a two way street.

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3 minutes ago, stu said:

I saw how it went.

 

The irony and fickleness of our fanbase cannot be more apparent by singing that in one half and then “In good times and the bad, we always back the lads……….”

 

By all means express your views after the half or game, but during the game when the team for whatever reason is low on confidence and/or unity is surely counter productive.


What possible good can come of it?

Getting KP and minions out is a heavy lift, but we have to start somewhere. If not, be certain that the future is bleak

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