Our fans are also to blame

[MaidstoneFox]

Fans have complained since the birth of the game, it's just amplified now. It's the nature of the game that it generates debate and opinion, what do footballers expect? Alternative careers are available, but they are nowhere near as generously rewarded. Some of them need to look at N'Golo Kante, what a humble individual he was.

[LCFCJohn]

1 hour ago, goog said:

I really don't understand this poster.

 

You have gone onto say you have not been for years and watch non league football.

 

So basically you are not a Leicester City Fan.

 

Then why come into a forum of a team you don't support and moan  like hell about a team you don't give a toss for? 

 

And your headline is you blame the fans?! 

 

If you don't support Leicester City, Stay away and leave the forum? 

 

Go and moan somewhere else. 

So the only fans are those that attend each week? 
 

What about those who live too far away?
 

What about those who can’t afford what top level football has become to follow and go to non league because it’s cheaper?

What about those who have attended for years/decades and found that football at this level has become all together too stale and find lower level football more authentic as well as affordable? 

[goog]

8 minutes ago, jayfox26 said:

The forum is here for people to have opinions. Why should I leave the forum because you don't agree with me? 

 

By all means come back at me with your views and opinions and we can chat, but don't tell me who I can and can't support and which forums I can and can't go on. 

 

For the record, I do support LCFC, I just don't support KPFC and won't give a penny of my money to this useless owner and board. 

 

I hope one day that I can get back to going to games again but it won't happen until there is huge change at the club. That's my choice, as it is yours to attend games, if you do.

 

My post was just another way of saying the fans need to try and do more to reset the club and that won't happen whilst the owner and his board think everything is OK because only a small section of the fanbase have shown discontent. 

But you choose to go and watch other teams and not watch Leicester? 

 

But you still call yourself a Leicester Fan? 

 

Hum...

If we ever repeat 2015-16 I bet you will be amongst the first in the quee at the club shop buying a shirt.

 

Then boldly strutting the streets puffing out yoir pigeon chest stating you are a lifelong fan.

 

Fans dont switch on and off and change clubs when they want.

They are fans Through the good and the bad. 

Things were bad when we had Shipman and Pleat but we still went everyweek knowing we were crap but still stood,  singing our hearts out, those of us that lasted. 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 17 August 2025 by goog

[sylofox]

3 minutes ago, LCFCJohn said:

 

I think we have a group of players that you could roar on for 90 minutes, and they have so little drive and desire to put the effort in, we would not see anything different. We are so many years into this apathy that is served up, it has drained even those who would usually be more positive and vocal. Obviously we have a high proportion of hanger on types anyway which doesn’t help. I also believe the stale type of football we have been served up for many years isn’t conducive to getting the crowd fired up.

 

Give where we are now, if you ask what it takes to break the rot and staleness of it all, I would say it needs the players to show they are serious about the task in hand and put a shift in. The reaction of the crowd will quickly follow in my opinion of course.

Yes I agree with what you are saying. I come from a different time not sure how old you are. 70's and 80's in the pens is my time. When it went flat pen 4 might sing pen 2 give us a song and that would start it up. Even heard most of the top sing main stand give us a song and they replied and got a cheer.

 

Like I say different time different people. But I still see it as our job to lift them not the otherway around.

 

I guess it helped having the loudest ground in the country. That low roof made it sound awesome.

[goog]

6 minutes ago, LCFCJohn said:

So the only fans are those that attend each week? 
 

What about those who live too far away?
 

What about those who can’t afford what top level football has become to follow and go to non league because it’s cheaper?

What about those who have attended for years/decades and found that football at this level has become all together too stale and find lower level football more authentic as well as affordable? 

The poster never said he was any of them. Keep up.....

[jayfox26]

56 minutes ago, Osavo said:

I don't think people care anymore, and tbh I'm in that group. People are genuinely in the stands just having a giggle at the so called 'footballers' playing for us.

 

I only go nowadays for the social aspect, a day out and a few pints with the old man and my mates. Does that make me part of the problem?

No I get it I do, and I know my post has come across as I'm slating all the fans, I'm not at all. I just want to see change at the club and feel is as fans can try to push for that if enough people show their discontent. As long as the stadium is full, most are clapping/cheering and people are buying merch from the shop, it's just business as usual for Top and co. The only time they will actually take notice is if the stadium numbers drop drastically and merch sales etc drop drastically. 

[cropstonfox]

1 hour ago, Fear Of The Fox said:

It's the same people who will go to the pub and complain their pint has exactly 1mm more head than they prefer. But they're happy to pay £80 (or whatever) for a shirt. 

I'm more cynical. Had happy days following the club, bad days, amazing days but in the end this is a private company. If the product I'm paying for is rubbish, I demand change and improvement. Until then they're not getting a pence from me. I'm not going back to a restaurant which poisoned me twice. 

Tbh I'm not enjoying modern football with the odd exception here and there. I find myself having more fun watching baseball and American football nowadays. 

Each to his own, but I'd rather watch city's lazy deluded shite players than the USA only,

"World series" etc

Owners have changed over the years and it will no doubt change again.

[jayfox26]

2 minutes ago, goog said:

But you choose to go and watch other teams and not watch Leicester? 

 

But you still call yourself a Leicester Fan? 

 

Hum...

If we ever repeat 2015-16 I bet you will be amongst the first in the quee at the club shop buying a shirt.

 

Then boldly strutting the streets puffing out yoir pigeon chest stating you are a lifelong fan.

 

Fans dont switch on and off and change clubs when they want.

They are fans Through the good and the bad. 

Things were bad when we had Shipman and Pleat but we still went everyweek knowing we were crap but still stood,  singing our hearts out, those of us that lasted. 

 

 

 

 

 

You just either haven't read my post properly or you just don't get it so let's just agree to disagree, ill not reply to you and you don't reply to me anymore. 

 

Ps, you can block me if you find my posts so offensive 👍

[LCFCJohn]

1 minute ago, sylofox said:

Yes I agree with what you are saying. I come from a different time not sure how old you are. 70's and 80's in the pens is my time. When it went flat pen 4 might sing pen 2 give us a song and that would start it up. Even heard most of the top sing main stand give us a song and they replied and got a cheer.

 

Like I say different time different people. But I still see it as our job to lift them not the otherway around.

 

I guess it helped having the loudest ground in the country. That low roof made it sound awesome.

I started at 8 years old in 2001. Not my fault I am not older haha! 

 

But yeah, I guess was a different game back then. I must admit, I often find I get so absorbed in the game, I can be quiet but due to being engrossed. I don’t know if that makes me a problem or not. I suppose I would join in with the atmosphere but wouldn’t be an instigator. 

[goog]

Just now, jayfox26 said:

You just either haven't read my post properly or you just don't get it so let's just agree to disagree, ill not reply to you and you don't reply to me anymore. 

 

Ps, you can block me if you find my posts so offensive 👍

Love 🤣🤣it when people Gaslight themselves 😂😂

[LCFCJohn]

3 minutes ago, goog said:

The poster never said he was any of them. Keep up.....

I would say he fits the 3rd one? Disillusioned and started following non-league to get that enjoyment back.

 

It doesn’t mean you are suddenly not an LCFC supporter.

[goog]

Just now, LCFCJohn said:

I would say he fits the 3rd one? Disillusioned and started following non-league to get that enjoyment back.

 

It doesn’t mean you are suddenly not an LCFC supporter.

Disillusioned and started following non-league to get that enjoyment back.

 

Or.......

He will come back  onboard we are good again. 👍 

[LCFCJohn]

Just now, goog said:

Disillusioned and started following non-league to get that enjoyment back.

 

Or.......

He will come back  onboard we are good again. 👍 

Missing the point completely with that last jibe there.

 

It’s not about being good. Do you think if that’s all people cared about they’d be watching non-league where the quality is lower? No, people would follow non-league because it is authentic, enjoyable and a throw back to how the game was before money infected it.

 

People are fed up because of the culture around this club, not the fact we are in the second division FFS!

[Clogger_]

7 minutes ago, LCFCJohn said:

Missing the point completely with that last jibe there.

 

It’s not about being good. Do you think if that’s all people cared about they’d be watching non-league where the quality is lower? No, people would follow non-league because it is authentic, enjoyable and a throw back to how the game was before money infected it.

 

People are fed up because of the culture around this club, not the fact we are in the second division FFS!

Beautifully put. "Culture" is a great word for it

[LCFCJohn]

5 hours ago, Wolfox said:

Don’t mistake my view for apathy…. Why would I not care about our future?
 

I may have exaggerated…. I’m 52 and went to my first match at 7 and have had a season ticket more often than not…. Tenure as a supporter doesn’t and shouldn’t have a baring on how much you care…. There are just far more things in the world I can get upset about than a win and loss in our first two league games (yes yes, I understand there are broader questions)…. But you’d be making a mistake if you felt I was a smiley, can’t be bothered, happy clapper…
 

Are we really in a position where we need to be as outraged as many appear to be?  Nah, I’m not having it…. If I were a Wednesday fan, fair enough…. There is a lot of false bravado on here and I personally find it tiresome… it’s a case of shit or get off the pot….   But stop whining!!!

 

I can assure I’m not a troll…. Most of my posts on here are quite mild mannered…. I really enjoy this forum in the main, but the hyperbolic nonsense some spout is deeply tiring for me and many others I suspect…

 

Remember football forums across the world are, in the main, a reflection of your last result…. I like to believe I’m relatively well balanced person

 

but, your responses seem sensible enough, so I’m happy to respond and suspect we’d have an interesting conversation on this topic over a pint…. Cheers 🍻 

Excellent reply to be fair as you could have risen to my tone 

 

Appreciate the context of when you started out. Sometimes it feels like some people chuck 50 years as an arbitrary number to justify being a better supporter than those younger but obviously not always and not the case with yourself. I often think, everything that could have happened to us has since 2000. So you can have supported this club 25 years and seen it all, and for 50 and not really seen anything different!

 

I don’t believe the frustration is based on these last two results. It is as you allude to, the broader issues. I think it is frustrating for people who are venting anger to be accused of being entitled and results driven when it really isn’t the case (for most). 
 

I agree about their being more important things to get upset about or indeed spend time on. I have just spent most of the day with my wife and daughter at a local food festival, a great way to spend a Sunday 

 

I wouldn’t really agree with the paragraph you mention bravado and Wednesday in that I do think the situation at this club is getting serious and it is up to supporters to fight for that. We have fallen so far in the last 5 years, if the same happens again in the next 5, a Wednesday situation here is scarily likely. 
 

I do agree the forum can by hyperbolic and like you say, reactive to the last name although the frustration around the handling of the club is a constant now regardless of results. I also class myself as a mild mannered and balanced poster although certain topics or posts can get my goat and cause a reaction. I can’t say I have every seen anything from your handle that stands out as being really out their so I believe you are the same as you have said. 
 

I appreciate that despite my tone toward you, you have still classed me as sensible enough to have a pint with 🍻

[funkyrobot]

3 hours ago, AKCJ said:

The stream I was watching kept panning to the away end showing old biddies sat there silent with their brand new Leicester tops on.

 

Absolutely a key factor as to why we're in the shit. Too many people too quick to give King Power their cash without questioning anything that is happening on the pitch.

We are struggling because we have a poor team, a poor director of football who has mismanaged this poor team and an owner who has taken his eye off the ball and has not invested in continually improving the first team squad.  Having some loyal fans that are older than you’d personally like is definitely not a key factor. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[sylofox]

1 hour ago, LCFCJohn said:

I started at 8 years old in 2001. Not my fault I am not older haha! 

 

But yeah, I guess was a different game back then. I must admit, I often find I get so absorbed in the game, I can be quiet but due to being engrossed. I don’t know if that makes me a problem or not. I suppose I would join in with the atmosphere but wouldn’t be an instigator. 

Hey I'm not having a go I'm not right and you're not wrong. We all support our team.

 

I've not lived in Leicester for 20 odd yrs and with work can't  take on a season ticket. But I get tickets last minute. In the main stand for sheff weds in our relegation to div 1. 1-0 and it's going wrong so I'm stood up trying to get people to show some support. Next minute coppers, sit down and shut up else you're out. 10 mins from the end I'm thrown out and we lost 3-1. The players need us and the ground was flat. Win that we stay up 70% of the ground offered fvck all. Sadly that's what we have become.  

 

Ask anyone about Tony James goal against Oxford and that game. All four sides singing and supporting us.lost and div three win and we stay up. Any player that day will tell you WE was the difference.

 

Not saying you but our fans now. We was div one (3) once. They gave us the title. I'm OK I've got my flask.

 

Not for me sorry.

 

So fvcking sad what we've become.

 

 

[Winstonthedog]

This is true .... we had a great future in our own hands and never thought to make long term plans .... instead reward average players with longer contracts and mega wages ... not investing in youth and better coaching staff and having a long term vision for the club ... I have been following the city for 50+ years .... and in no way does it make me right or an authority on them .... however it does give me a knowledge of them .... and yes we have totally wasted a golden opportunity to establish ourselves as a Premier league club 

[LCFCJohn]

30 minutes ago, sylofox said:

Hey I'm not having a go I'm not right and you're not wrong. We all support our team.

 

I've not lived in Leicester for 20 odd yrs and with work can't  take on a season ticket. But I get tickets last minute. In the main stand for sheff weds in our relegation to div 1. 1-0 and it's going wrong so I'm stood up trying to get people to show some support. Next minute coppers, sit down and shut up else you're out. 10 mins from the end I'm thrown out and we lost 3-1. The players need us and the ground was flat. Win that we stay up 70% of the ground offered fvck all. Sadly that's what we have become.  

 

Ask anyone about Tony James goal against Oxford and that game. All four sides singing and supporting us.lost and div three win and we stay up. Any player that day will tell you WE was the difference.

 

Not saying you but our fans now. We was div one (3) once. They gave us the title. I'm OK I've got my flask.

 

Not for me sorry.

 

So fvcking sad what we've become.

 

 

100%. I think in many ways, modern football is just sterile. The club as you have alluded to (although your example is pre-KP) actively try to discourage an atmosphere and prefer the day tripper, hobbiest types.

 

I think there is a difference between fans who won’t be the up for 90 minutes, singing non-stop, because they are also watching the game, but will add to the atmosphere when the players need it, and many of what makes up our crowd now, KP disciples, coming in late, leaving earlier, moaning at fans trying to create an atmosphere, well moaning at anyone but the only time they show the slightest bit of passion is to attack fans who question the owner…..

 

It’s why I am happy just to catch games on TV now. The purpose of going to the stadium is for the atmosphere. But given that is none existent, it adds nothing. It was fine up to 2016, then the fanbase just got divided, as above, KP sycophants and sterile style of football served up at the owners request.

[Manwell Pablo]

2 hours ago, sylofox said:

I get the blaming the premier league though. They've picked on Everton Forest and us. Yet Man C and Chelsea are bending and breaking rules left right and centre. I talk to other fans and get one of two answers. You've broke the rules so tuff. Or you've broke the rules but it's totally wrong City and Chelsea have not been done and they've been doing it for years.

 

Yes they all think we should be done but think it's wrong that two clubs have got away with it for years. Most also agree the prem is either slanted or corrupt towards the big 6.

 

 

But our owner is totally to blame for the mess we are in. To a point I don't blame Whelan or Rudkin Top has allowed them to fvck it all up and done nothing about it. The fact he see's no wrong in what they've done to our club to me say's he's the only one to blame.

 

I also wonder if he has the final say in everything and tells them what to do and who to buy on what salary.

 

And again, this is an ill informed point of view because the PL have charged Manchester City with 115 charges and they have a hearing in October, and Chelsea haven't actually broken any rules. 

 

We are no different from Manchester City we are both process pending potential final verdict/punishment and both cases it's been going on for seasons and in both cases no sanction, as of yet, has been imposed on either club. 

 

 

[James and his giant peach]

17 hours ago, jayfox26 said:

Not going to games and not spending money at the club shop

Isn't what makes a supporter someone who supports the club? Supporting the club means turning up and watching, even if we end up in the vanarama, you go and support the team. I'm the first one to call Soumare a lazy cvnt but it's my religion to go each week, so I'm not stopping that. Spending in the shop is not really my things, it's all overpriced, but it's also about showing pride in your team and wearing your teams badge and colours. Everyone who supports us wants us to be better and wants is to win, but either not turning up or just turning up to protest, boo etc doesn't really help things at all. 

 

I've just seen Fatawu critising the support now, it must be a topic among the squad, players being booed etc, and clearly isn't helping anything at all on or off the pitch. Maybe if we create a cauldron of noise and support we can do something positive. Doubtful I know but you never know. 

[HighPeakFox]

If you had a pie chart of 'who's to blame?' , the fans would be a sliver. 

 

We aren't important, and your mental health will be improved for realising. 

Edited 17 August 2025 by HighPeakFox

[JonnyBoy]

18 hours ago, jayfox26 said:

Not going to games and not spending money at the club shop

The problem is mate, a lot of people who moan on here have a season ticket, go to games, buy the beer, buy the shirts. 
 

As a fanbase we are weak as piss people quite literally don’t understand that by turning up week in week out they are a massive part of the problem. We have a huge blame culture and a lot of our fan base need to look at themselves 

[Pliskin]

First point, king power didn’t get us back into the premier league. Nigel Pearson did. They took over, and he left, we were a mess, and then they had to get him back in to sort the mess out. 
 

Yes KP initially offered an increased financial boost, but that was overseen by Nigel, it was him and his team that set the club up to be successful…. King Power benefited from this period massively. 
 

Again they didn’t deliver us the premier league title, they didn’t go out a buy the players they didn’t set the team up….. again, they and Ranieri massively benefited from how the club was in operation at the time. It was a glorious one off, that will never be repeated again. After a bit of PL mediocrity Brendan Rodgers came in, and arguably took us to another level, he inherited an incredible squad, and produced some of the best football I’ve ever seen us play. 
 

But even then he called out the fact the squad needed refreshing, he was part of the issue at the time, but he wasn’t wrong with stating that though…. Because it was true. 
 

 

Our demise has accelerated since the loss of Vichai, but there were mistakes made even under him, the difference was he had the ability to correct them, and the foresight to change things when things started to go wrong. 
 

Top has none of those things. He’s proven that he’s a petulant man child who doesn’t understand how to run a football club. He has over seen some tragic transfer windows, and he has allowed Rudkin without any accountability offer ridiculous and unsustainable wages….. 

 

Top and his team are entirely to blame, plenty of other premier league clubs, smaller than us manage to operate competently without breaching the rules, and we have done now, on more than one occasion… I don’t like the PL and how they apply the rules, but we’ve only ourselves to blame for breaching them. 
 

The fact some fans can’t see that what is happening here is unacceptable and frankly embarrassing is alarming….. we’ve had close to half a billion £ pass through this club since we won the PL, and we’re breaching FFP, and are now a million miles away from the likes of Nottingham Forest. 
 

We’re in this position because of incompetence, and negligence at the board level, and nothing else. 
 

Top and King Power are done here, he can’t run the football club, and we’re another bad mistake away from being Sheffield Wednesday. 
 

But I guess a free beer and cake will make all the problems disappear? 

[JonnyBoy]

8 minutes ago, James and his giant peach said:

Isn't what makes a supporter someone who supports the club? Supporting the club means turning up and watching, even if we end up in the vanarama, you go and support the team. I'm the first one to call Soumare a lazy cvnt but it's my religion to go each week, so I'm not stopping that. Spending in the shop is not really my things, it's all overpriced, but it's also about showing pride in your team and wearing your teams badge and colours. Everyone who supports us wants us to be better and wants is to win, but either not turning up or just turning up to protest, boo etc doesn't really help things at all. 

 

I've just seen Fatawu critising the support now, it must be a topic among the squad, players being booed etc, and clearly isn't helping anything at all on or off the pitch. Maybe if we create a cauldron of noise and support we can do something positive. Doubtful I know but you never know. 

With all due respect mate, the last thing I want to do on a Saturday is get stuck on abbey lane traffic to support Harry Winks who quite literally, hates the club. 
 

turning up to protest would help, attending games and lining the owners pockets isn’t helping. I genuinely think a lot of what the original poster is trying to say is completely lost on a lot of fans, like you just don’t get it 

Edited 17 August 2025 by JonnyBoy