BrilliantFox Posted 1 February Posted 1 February 39 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said: I am doing no such thing. Us, as much as anyone, should be aware of the value to be found off the beaten track. Would go as far as to say that it was our decision to cease to look at perceived lesser markets or locations, that actual contributed to our inglorious decline. Our two last succeses were Bilal El Khannous and Fatawu. BEK a player with experience in European competitions and the U21 World Cups. Promising talent. Fatawu a player from Sporting CP, a Champions League team. A club that is also known for churning out talent. The harsh reality is the hit rate on finding an absolute gem for the price of a house in Beaumont Leys in 2026 is a lot lower than it was a decade ago.
Dahnsouff Posted 1 February Posted 1 February Just now, BrilliantFox said: Our two last succeses were Bilal El Khannous and Fatawu. BEK a player with experience in European competitions and the U21 World Cups. Promising talent. Fatawu a player from Sporting CP, a Champions League team. A club that is also known for churning out talent. The harsh reality is the hit rate on finding an absolute gem for the price of a house in Beaumont Leys in 2026 is a lot lower than it was a decade ago. Oh no doubt, and I am not sure what makes BEK a success tbh, at least for us, but perhaps that was just because he arrived when we so very poor. Agree that there is definitely not quite the same availability of prospects to us for sure, but there could still be the odd player who are felt not good enough for true prospect farmers like Brighton, but could become nearly that good. And due to our recent "successes" we do likely need to look beneath that quality and this may mean looking under less desirable rocks.
BrilliantFox Posted 1 February Posted 1 February 20 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said: I am not sure what makes BEK a success Success as in good player, not literally a success. In terms of your second point, the next problem that arises when it comes to unearthing gems is in todays day and age you must operate on a data driven model. So its really a non-starter under our structure, I'm not sure Rudkin can even operate the newest version of his Windows PC. When it comes to club structure and recruitment, the times have moved on and Leicester City is still stuck in the medieval times, decisions being made like its an italian mafia. 1
Dahnsouff Posted 1 February Posted 1 February Just now, BrilliantFox said: Success as in good player, not literally a success. In terms of your second point, the next problem that arises when it comes to unearthing gems is in todays day and age you must operate on a data driven model. So its really a non-starter under our structure, I'm not sure Rudkin can even operate the newest version of his Windows PC. When it comes to club structure and recruitment, the times have moved on and Leicester City is still stuck in the medieval times, decisions being made like its an italian mafia. No arguments there, we have utterly failed to adapt. 1
LCFCJohn Posted 1 February Posted 1 February 55 minutes ago, BrilliantFox said: I absolutely don't want to sign players on big wages. Nor do I say we should only buy from Big 6 clubs. I believe in looking at a variety of markets, HOWEVER in this case specifically Sheffield Wednesday is not the market we should be looking at. If said player had the potential to go to the top, he would have been scooped up a few years ago. I remember seeing him play the last time we were in the Championship. Regarding Cifuentes, it wasn't just the fact he was from QPR. It was also what exactly did he do there that was deserving of this job? I'm asking these questions because our owner and board of directors clearly don't ask themselves these same questions before buying players or hiring managers. If this is your view then, a word of advice. Consider how you word things. You make sweeping statements like ‘bring in a QPR manager, turn into QPR’ or ‘just what we need, Sheffield Wednesday players’. By that logic, you’d have never signed a certain striker from non-league Fleetwood Town. I have no issue not wanting to sign Cadamarteri or feeling that Cifuentes was not good enough based on what he had shown. It’s the sweeping statements that seem to write anybody treading a similar path off. I don’t disagree about Cadamarteri by the way. Given Wednesday have been in the mess they have, you’d especially expect players to have been poached if they were up to much, given they’d be available for a pittance. 1
BrilliantFox Posted 1 February Posted 1 February 1 minute ago, LCFCJohn said: I have no issue not wanting to sign Cadamarteri or feeling that Cifuentes was not good enough based on what he had shown. It’s the sweeping statements that seem to write anybody treading a similar path off. I don’t disagree about Cadamarteri by the way. Given Wednesday have been in the mess they have, you’d especially expect players to have been poached if they were up to much, given they’d be available for a pittance. Yes, this is exactly my point. Though sometimes I like to keep it short and concise. The thing with Cifuentes and QPR was also about dealing with the pressure and expectations. Some of the statements he was making in press conferences was as if he was still at QPR.
FoxinNotts Posted 2 February Posted 2 February Chido Obi on loan from united would be absolutely mint!
tickler28 Posted 2 February Posted 2 February Danny Ings? Do Sheffield Utd really need Campbell, Bamford, Cannon and Ings!?
Lambert09 Posted 2 February Posted 2 February We got carranza gone at the start of the month….. it is beyond a joke that we don’t have a striker lined up. 4
LCFCCKEANO Posted 2 February Posted 2 February Longer the three deals we currently have in the pipeline take the bigger the concern that we are just waiting on these and plan on nothing more happening
FoxinNotts Posted 2 February Posted 2 February 7 minutes ago, mod hero said: STRIKER or we are going down. It’s ****ing simple. Down we go then
Ric Flair Posted 2 February Posted 2 February Still think Antonio signs in a few weeks and play twice before getting injured again. 1 1
ClaphamFox Posted 2 February Posted 2 February 7 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: Still think Antonio signs in a few weeks and play twice before getting injured again. I strongly suspect that's the plan (the bringing Antonio back bit, not the bit about him getting injured again). 1
Loxm Posted 2 February Posted 2 February 6 hours ago, moore_94 said: Stephen Odey is available on free @Loxm@GLC 😅😅😅
Dan Posted 2 February Posted 2 February Three top priorities for sure were: Left back Defensive midfielder Striker Looks like it's two attacking midfielders (taking us to four - pretty much locking us into a system that has yielded nothing but garbage all season), a centre back and a young striker without a senior appearance. Thomas pretty much has the keys at left back. Frightening. Expect Richards makes under 5 starts for us. I fear Ayew also has the keys. Also frightening. Midfield totally neglected = desperation for a dickhead who has shown contempt for the club for the majority of his time here. Appalling. So we've scrambled around as per usual on deadline day, taken the lost property and have probably fixed 0.5 of our 3 issues. Truly appalling. But par for this regime. 1
brookfox Posted 3 February Posted 3 February 10 hours ago, Dan said: Three top priorities for sure were: Left back Defensive midfielder Striker Looks like it's two attacking midfielders (taking us to four - pretty much locking us into a system that has yielded nothing but garbage all season), a centre back and a young striker without a senior appearance. Thomas pretty much has the keys at left back. Frightening. Expect Richards makes under 5 starts for us. I fear Ayew also has the keys. Also frightening. Midfield totally neglected = desperation for a dickhead who has shown contempt for the club for the majority of his time here. Appalling. So we've scrambled around as per usual on deadline day, taken the lost property and have probably fixed 0.5 of our 3 issues. Truly appalling. But par for this regime. Not sure I agree with your priorities sorry. Left back we have Thomas, Aluko and VK who is coming back from injury. Unless we moved one on (probably the plan with VK but he got injured) who is going to come here to compete with that. CDM we already have Skipp, Winks and Hamza. What we lack with JJ out is any form of creativity or goal threat from midfield. So an 8 and competition for Page and BDCR is welcome imo. Then with Souttar seemingly out and Faes leaving we have essentially three CBs; Nelson, Vesty and Okoli. None of which have any leadership qualities and can also be frail defending. Striker, agreed!! We’re also a very small team (or look it) who frequently seem to get bullied. Of the four potential signings Mukasa is the shortest at 5’11”. Are they the right players? Will they work out? Who knows until they play, but I can see the logic behind them. 4
GLC Posted 3 February Posted 3 February 17 hours ago, moore_94 said: Stephen Odey is available on free @Loxm@GLC Get him in! I hear he’s awkward at LB/RB/CB/LWB/RWB/CDM 1
LCFCCKEANO Posted 3 February Posted 3 February Explore the free market for a full back, another striker as Richards looks to be more of a winger and if we have the cash a right back or a defensive midfielder
FosseSpark Posted 3 February Posted 3 February Are we getting these three stragglers then or what? Lascelles, Richards and Hermansen?
TheGoldenGod Posted 3 February Posted 3 February 9 minutes ago, FosseSpark said: Are we getting these three stragglers then or what? Lascelles, Richards and Hermansen? It's not Hermansen mate hahah, its Mukasa, a Man City academy attacker!
Dan Posted 3 February Posted 3 February 2 hours ago, brookfox said: Not sure I agree with your priorities sorry. Left back we have Thomas, Aluko and VK who is coming back from injury. Unless we moved one on (probably the plan with VK but he got injured) who is going to come here to compete with that. CDM we already have Skipp, Winks and Hamza. What we lack with JJ out is any form of creativity or goal threat from midfield. So an 8 and competition for Page and BDCR is welcome imo. Then with Souttar seemingly out and Faes leaving we have essentially three CBs; Nelson, Vesty and Okoli. None of which have any leadership qualities and can also be frail defending. Striker, agreed!! We’re also a very small team (or look it) who frequently seem to get bullied. Of the four potential signings Mukasa is the shortest at 5’11”. Are they the right players? Will they work out? Who knows until they play, but I can see the logic behind them. Full backs are a massive problem. I would seriously think now about putting Aluko in at right back - we're simply too slow as a team and Ricardo I'm sorry to say just cannot hack it anymore. Thomas is simply nowhere near good enough and shouldn't be considered for selection. Have a couple of round pegs in those round holes and I think you see improvement pretty much all over. Defensive midfield - again, huge problem. But I'm saying this again as somebody who would have Winks completely isolated. Skipp is injured, I've no idea how long for, Choudhury is now injured as well and it sounds like a long one. People are pointing to the clean sheet record for a need for centre backs but I've seen suggestions of a midfield of James, Mukasa and Aribo to sit in front of them. That record won't be going away any time soon if that's the answer. Skipp has improved but I think the odds get completely stacked against him as James' attacking is leaving him pretty isolated. In my ideal world I'm probably dropping the number 10 (which is never happening now we've got four!) and playing Skipp, new DM and James in a 4-3-3. The main reason we aren't keeping the goals out is because our full backs are hopeless and there's virtually no protection in midfield. I'm not convinced by the centre backs but I don't think they're in a good place in our current set up, yet we seem to have just doubled down on it. Lascelles will flop for the same reason the other CBs are struggling. If our team was... Goalkeeper* Aluko - Nelson - Vestergaard - NEW NEW James - Skipp Fatawu - NEW* - Mavididi I don't think we become 'good' but I don't think we're relegated. I still think it's totally plausible after this recruitment. Goalkeeper I'd been backing Stolarczyk but it's becoming impossible to now. Striker I think of Ayew, Daka and Richards, your best bet is still likely to be Daka, and I expect Ayew will still start. I agree with you about the physicality - it's a massive collective problem in the team, and it has been for years.
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