Cifuentes OUT

[funkyrobot]

4 minutes ago, studentofthegame said:

Jesus christ

 

Yes I know he is not the answer, as I have already stated multiple times

 

The point is that he at least bothers to put some effort in, both of them are shit, but I would rather play the one who actually tries to do something as opposed to the one who can't be ****ed to even bother running

 

I don't want EITHER of them on the pitch, I am not sure how much clearer I need to be for people to understand that

You said

 

‘Skipp is a better player than Soumare.’ 
 

He isn’t.

[whoareyaaa]

4 minutes ago, Parafox said:

What did he achieve at QPR?

 

Nothing important. He's vacuous. As empty of ideas as a beached whale.

 

We're ****ed, no matter who manages us.

 

 

Pearson was amazing here but shit everywhere else.

[Claridge]

5 minutes ago, studentofthegame said:

Jesus christ

 

Yes I know he is not the answer, as I have already stated multiple times

 

The point is that he at least bothers to put some effort in, both of them are shit, but I would rather play the one who actually tries to do something as opposed to the one who can't be ****ed to even bother running

 

I don't want EITHER of them on the pitch, I am not sure how much clearer I need to be for people to understand that

Miles better than Soumare, still crap, but at least he tries

[whoareyaaa]

Just now, Claridge said:

Miles better than Soumare, still crap, but at least he tries

Cause he's white and ugly.

[Parafox]

7 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

Sure everything will work out.

What?

[Parafox]

8 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

Pearson was amazing here but shit everywhere else.

Where did I mention Pearson.?

 

Get out the pub and get some sleep. You might make more sense in the morning.

 

Although I doubt it.

Edited 1 November 2025 by Parafox

[whoareyaaa]

Just now, Parafox said:

Where did I mention Pearson.?

 

Get out the pub and get some sleep. You might more sense in the morning.

 

[The Doctor]

1 hour ago, Jazzy_Jeff said:

Ricardo and Fatawu.

 

Aluko, Thomas, VK, Choudhury and BDCR could all play there if needed. These are professional footballers paid obscene money - they should all be able to play where they’re told. 

Choudhury is not a wingback come off it. 

[studentofthegame]

8 minutes ago, funkyrobot said:

You said

 

‘Skipp is a better player than Soumare.’ 
 

He isn’t.

Yes he is.

 

Soumare is legitimately one of the worst players I have ever seen wear the shirt, when we go down to League 1 he still won't be good enough

 

He is ****ing dire. He can't pass, he can't tackle, he can't run, he doesn't track back, he can't read the game. He is a complete waste of space. He offers nothing going forward, nothing defensively and our midfield is a gaping maw whenever he is "playing"

[funkyrobot]

Just now, studentofthegame said:

Yes he is.

 

Soumare is legitimately one of the worst players I have ever seen wear the shirt, when we go down to League 1 he still won't be good enough

 

He is ****ing dire. He can't pass, he can't tackle, he can't run, he doesn't track back, he can't read the game. He is a complete waste of space. He offers nothing going forward, nothing defensively and our midfield is a gaping maw whenever he is "playing"

That last paragraph also describes Skipp ffs. 

[studentofthegame]

11 minutes ago, Claridge said:

Miles better than Soumare, still crap, but at least he tries

When the bar is Soumare I would even go as far as to say "still dog shit, but at least he tries" would be a marked improvement

[Pliskin]

8 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

Didn't Martin O'Neil have a bad start ? that didn't turn out to bad 

We’ve got to stop drawing these kind of comparisons…….. this is a completely different scenario, there were signs under O’Neil that things may turn…..  here, there are only more red flags every week…… we’re regressing and getting worse game by game. 

[studentofthegame]

Just now, funkyrobot said:

That last paragraph also describes Skipp ffs. 

Skipp is shit

 

Soumare is shitter

 

I am not vociferously defending Skipp here, he is NOT a good player

 

The fact still remains that he is better than the alternative if Cifuentes insists on playing one of them and forcing James out of position

 

It is more a damning indictment of a recruitment than anything

[studentofthegame]

Just now, Pliskin said:

We’ve got to stop drawing these kind of comparisons…….. this is a completely different scenario, there were signs under O’Neil that things may turn…..  here, there are only more red flags every week…… we’re regressing and getting worse game by game. 

This is the issue, I am yet to see anybody actually tell me a single thing that gives them reason to be positive that things will improve

 

He has shown nothing to suggest that we will do anything other than regress

[funkyrobot]

2 minutes ago, studentofthegame said:

Skipp is shit

 

Soumare is shitter

 

I am not vociferously defending Skipp here, he is NOT a good player

 

The fact still remains that he is better than the alternative if Cifuentes insists on playing one of them and forcing James out of position

 

It is more a damning indictment of a recruitment than anything

I wouldn’t play either and I don’t agree he’s better than Soumare. 

[Vazman]

4 minutes ago, studentofthegame said:

Yes he is.

 

Soumare is legitimately one of the worst players I have ever seen wear the shirt, when we go down to League 1 he still won't be good enough

 

He is ****ing dire. He can't pass, he can't tackle, he can't run, he doesn't track back, he can't read the game. He is a complete waste of space. He offers nothing going forward, nothing defensively and our midfield is a gaping maw whenever he is "playing"

Most of the team fit into that description in some way shape or form

[The Doctor]

3 minutes ago, studentofthegame said:

Skipp is shit

 

Soumare is shitter

 

I am not vociferously defending Skipp here, he is NOT a good player

 

The fact still remains that he is better than the alternative if Cifuentes insists on playing one of them and forcing James out of position

 

It is more a damning indictment of a recruitment than anything

no he isn't. both are shit, Soumare can manage 5 minutes once every 10 games where he looks like a professional footballer. Skipp can't 

[Fox92]

32 minutes ago, indierich06 said:

Can't think of one good performance we've had under him. 

We haven’t. We’ve played good in a couple of halves (first half against Portsmouth) as an example but not for a full match. Usually relying on wonder goals to bail us out of games too. Today was the worse performance of them all though.

[honeybradger]

23 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

Pearson was amazing here but shit everywhere else.

Did a decent job at Bristol clearing out their high wage underperformers and had a decent crack at keeping Watford up that one time including beating Liverpool who were unbeaten so far that season.

[Tommy Fresh]

1 minute ago, Fox92 said:

We haven’t. We’ve played good in a couple of halves (first half against Portsmouth) as an example but not for a full match. Usually relying on wonder goals to bail us out of games too. Today was the worse performance of them all though.

Yeah, we looked okay up until the goal, but looked absolutely rattled for the rest of the match, never had any real control either, today was probably the most worrying performance I've seen from us.

[whoareyaaa]

14 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

We’ve got to stop drawing these kind of comparisons…….. this is a completely different scenario, there were signs under O’Neil that things may turn…..  here, there are only more red flags every week…… we’re regressing and getting worse game by game. 

It's been the same under the previous two managers and nothing will change until the bad eggs are out and players in there last year of contracts have expired. 

 

Any new manager will play the same players and get the same results, the problems run much deeper.

 

Let's not forget how Winks was acting prior to the window closing and you think the manager is the problem.

Edited 1 November 2025 by whoareyaaa

[Pliskin]

3 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

It's been the same under the previous two managers and nothing will change until the bad eggs are out and players in there last year of contracts have expired. 

 

Any new manager will play the same players and get the same results, the problems run much deeper.

 

Let's not forget how Winks was acting prior to the window closing and you think the manager is the problem.

I totally agree with you. 
 

The problem we have is we can’t get rid of all of the players in one go….

[Tommy Fresh]

30 minutes ago, Claridge said:

Miles better than Soumare, still crap, but at least he tries

Does Skipp try  hate to see him chucking it in then

[Pliskin]

20 minutes ago, studentofthegame said:

Yes he is.

 

Soumare is legitimately one of the worst players I have ever seen wear the shirt, when we go down to League 1 he still won't be good enough

 

He is ****ing dire. He can't pass, he can't tackle, he can't run, he doesn't track back, he can't read the game. He is a complete waste of space. He offers nothing going forward, nothing defensively and our midfield is a gaping maw whenever he is "playing"

He just can’t cope with the pace of English football, at all. 

[Blanchflower78]

This is most certainly Levein level squad... how weve managed to achieve that is absolutely criminal from what we had a few years back. Heads should roll.