Cifuentes OUT

[Guppys Love Child]

2 hours ago, Blue-fox said:

I know we were absolutely terrible under him, but at least Ruud was trying to deal with the players and try and drive a better standard at the club. 
 

 

it’s got to be more on the players than the manager I think. 

I think it's s bit of both really with a heavy dose of the incompetent nepo baby owner and his shambles of LCFC hierarchy.

 

Yes IMO the manager is a bit duff, but if there are disruptive players causing friction he needs to grow a pair and sort it at training ground level. Drop them, and send them to train with the under 21s to sheild the 1st team from the toxic influance  thus sending out a clear message, behave......

 

Ultimately he chooses the match day playing squad so if his selection fails then he should own the failure.  The same goes with the tactics, match day subs and training again he owns any failures on this front.

 

We are 13 games in and its obviously not working, so logic dictates he asks the question of his new analyst from Barcelona  What's am I missing, why are my tactic being undone, whats not working in the real match environment, do individual players stand out as problematic ( cough, cough, Soumare, cough, Wout Garfunkel) If he can't answer these two simple questions ( we as fans seem to be able too) then what is he employed for?

 

Act upon the findings.

 

Swapping problematic/ duff players back and forth with another duff /problematic player, then back again a match or so later from the same selection pool  of dross is madness, and deploying logic again leads you to select and swap from a different "pool" of untried options. (Hint,hint Marti your youth set up,  it's not done Monga any damage and at least you'll get players who will try and be interested) 

 

As I opened with, "the powers that be" at the Top and their incompetence with recruitment, finances, interacting and communication with the fans  and inability to learn from their mistakes have not and certainly do not help, but Marti does have options, all be it small, yet to be explored, especially at squad level,  its a case of is he willing to be self critical, ask the questions over himself and take the advise from the other "specialists" and act upon it all.....if not then on his head be it.

[studentofthegame]

2 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

These sides are settled and on the up we have a bunch of players with contracts expiring and have been part of two relegations.

Yes, so why do we keep playing those players, if we were sat in 14th but had banished the likes of Faes and Soumare and been integrating youth and actually taking a look towards the future then I could live with that, what I can't stand is playing the same old shit who have no future here and expecting things to just magically change

[whoareyaaa]

1 minute ago, studentofthegame said:

I would argue that a lot of that falls on the manager, a good manager gets the best out of his players, gets the best out of his system and gets the players working hard

 

if he isn't up to the task then find someone who is, we aren't a charity, he is paid to do a job and is incapable of doing it to the expected standard

the last two managers failed at that as well though and now we have lost half of the first team including Vardy we are no longer a threat and it's not down to the manager

[Vardyshardy]

1 hour ago, Blue-fox said:

Sauce?

Depends what I’m having. Usually tomato but sometimes treat myself to BBQ

[Dahnsouff]

Just now, studentofthegame said:

I would argue that a lot of that falls on the manager, a good manager gets the best out of his players, gets the best out of his system and gets the players working hard

 

if he isn't up to the task then find someone who is, we aren't a charity, he is paid to do a job and is incapable of doing it to the expected standard

Oh no dispute here but this is the type of manager KP want, a technical continental style manager who Barca leanings. We want someone to come and and grab the club by the scruff of the neck. We won’t get that type though.

[whoareyaaa]

1 minute ago, studentofthegame said:

Yes, so why do we keep playing those players, if we were sat in 14th but had banished the likes of Faes and Soumare and been integrating youth and actually taking a look towards the future then I could live with that, what I can't stand is playing the same old shit who have no future here and expecting things to just magically change

Rome wasn't built in a day or 13 games in this case

Edited 1 November 2025 by whoareyaaa

[Chelmofox]

3 minutes ago, studentofthegame said:

I mean ultimately regardless of what people think of Skipp, he is miles clear of Soumare and always has been, at least he can be arsed to try and run around a bit

 

Page is away now but wasn't for the previous 8 games he has been banished for, he started twice, we won twice, he got an assist in one of them, and has not seen the bench since 

 

Evans might have been way off it in pre season but Daka has about 1 goal in 50 and Ayew last had a 10 goal season over a decade ago, the competition isn't exactly strong, there is no excuse whatsoever for Evans to have 0 minutes when our strikers are this bad

Is Evans smashing it in the U21's right now? I think there is a balance between chucking them in there and developing them. 

 

And we are at the stage where Skipp is the solution again (because hes not been played for a few games). Skipp was a complete plonker when he came on against Wrexham. They are as shite as each other.

[EnderbyFox]

This clown gone yet? I reckon we give Soumare the job as it appears it’s the only way to get the donkey off the pitch 

[studentofthegame]

Just now, whoareyaaa said:

Rome wasn't built in a day or 13 games in this case

Rome probably isn't the best example seen as they had a habit of dispensing of their leaders violently when they weren't up to the job

[DezFox]

On 27/10/2025 at 11:54, Chelmofox said:

Did Robins achieve it after 12 games in the Championship? It took him time.

What did he achieve? 

[whoareyaaa]

Just now, studentofthegame said:

Rome probably isn't the best example seen as they had a habit of dispensing of their leaders violently when they weren't up to the job

It's true though we can't keep expecting instant results when we have lost half of first team and Vardy.

[studentofthegame]

Just now, Chelmofox said:

Is Evans smashing it in the U21's right now? I think there is a balance between chucking them in there and developing them. 

 

And we are at the stage where Skipp is the solution again (because hes not been played for a few games). Skipp was a complete plonker when he came on against Wrexham. They are as shite as each other.

I'm not sure if this is rhetorical but he has 5 goals in 7 games, 3 in 6 in the league

 

Had 11 in 1300 minutes last season 

 

I think if you put current Daka in the U21s he would get a quarter of that at best

[FoxinNotts]

Doing the same thing over and over, gets you the same results. Change it up.

 

                         Begovic.

 

Ricardo.     Faes.      Nelson      Aluko

 

                   Winks.     James.

 Fatawu.            BDCR.              Monga

 

                        Mavididi

[foxer]

I'm quite up for giving managers time, especially with the state of our hierarchy and our squad of mercenaries. 

 

It's his selection of the same of mercenary sh1t every week that concerns me most. 

[Tielemans63]

The only argument I've heard for keeping him is that the issues run deeper than just his management. While that's definitely true, that's not really a reason to keep him. He's not what we need right now IMHO. 

[jv1]

Got to go hasn’t he 

[Dahnsouff]

Regarding the booing during the match, Matt Elliot on comme was discussing it today, and he was very assertive in saying it absolutely does not help the players during he match, it is a large negative, but he also said he saw why and the fans should be allowed to air their discontent at how the club is performing.

So yeah, boo, as they need to hear it, but also recognise we then contribute to the problem.

Eggs and omelettes.

[kingfox]

Leicester, West Brom, Norwich, Southampton and Sheff Utd all with over 60% possession in their games today, 0 wins between them. 
 

A lot of teams who sit in the top 8 of the possession charts this season have had average to shit starts. 
 

Nothing changes until Leicester wake up and get with the times. 

[Dahnsouff]

1 minute ago, kingfox said:

Leicester, West Brom, Norwich, Southampton and Sheff Utd all with over 60% possession in their games today, 0 wins between them. 
 

A lot of teams who sit in the top 8 of the possession charts this season have had average to shit starts. 
 

Nothing changes until Leicester wake up and get with the times. 

Take that to its natural conclusion. Not every team can have less than 50% possession can they?

[coolhandfox]

We look what we are poorly coached.

 

 

[nnfox]

This forum is actually nuts.

 

The club is in a terrible place and fans calling for the manager to go is frankly making the situation even worse.

 

22/23 - relegated with a squad that should have been competing for European football and then we lose Kasper, Maddison, Barnes, Tielemans, Evans, Soyuncu.  They are replaced by Hermansen, Winks, Coady, Fatawu and Mavididi

23/24 - promoted, but lose KDH and Maresca and we are SKINT. 

24/25 - We buy Skipp(?), BEK and Ayew and bring in Cooper as manager - we were always going to be up against it.  Cooper goes.  RVN comes in - another zero cost manager.  Results are terrible all season, players bereft of any confidence.  Relegated

25/26 - Another manager - Marti.  He PAYS HIS OWN COMPENSATION to join us late in pre-season.  Sees BEK, Vardy, Mads, Justin, Ndidi and McAteer leave.  We spend ZERO money on bringing players in.

 

Fans believe that we have some kind of golden generation of youth players that can somehow dismantle one of the toughest leagues in football.  This season we've seen Monga quite a bit - he has a long way to go to fulfil his potential and I'm not convinced he strengthens the team right now.  Page looked decent in one game and out of his depth in the other, Nelson looked extremely shaky, Alves is a way off yet.  As for Evans, Aluko and others - maybe, just maybe, they're not quite ready yet and everybody needs to be patient with the core of a youth team that finished 10th in their youth league last season. These players are not about to set the Championship on fire, even if their potential is high.

 

The squad is dire but there's NO MONEY to buy anyone.  We demonstrated we have no money yet we're suggesting that before we're even half way through the season we should sack a manger and therefore have even LESS MONEY to improve the squad.

 

It's plainly obvious that we are in desperate need of a proper striker that can actually score goals.  It's plainly obvious that we need some creativity in the middle of the park.  It's plainly obvious that we need to move more than a couple of players on.  It's plainly obvious that the DoF is incompetent.  It's plainly obvious that the owner is clueless.  It's plainly obvious that we are desperately short of cash.

 

Believe me...  We have 99 problems, but Marti ain't one.

 

 

[Dahnsouff]

Just now, coolhandfox said:

We look what we are poorly coached.

 

Agree. Our pressing and movement is not good.

[winteriscoming]

We need a Pearson type bastard who doesn’t give a shit and will say how it is. 
Sadly these type of managers are a dying breed. 
I really don’t think Marti is what we need right now. He’s a yes man. 

[blueharmie]

He's working with vermin quite simply.

[TamuffFox]

14 minutes ago, FoxinNotts said:

Doing the same thing over and over, gets you the same results. Change it up.

 

                         Begovic.

 

Ricardo.     Faes.      Nelson      Aluko

 

                   Winks.     James.

 Fatawu.            BDCR.              Monga

 

                        Mavididi

That's it...drop Vesty and Jakub but bring in BDCR!!! Ffs