funkyrobot Posted 28 January Posted 28 January 8 hours ago, dmayne7 said: He's been sacked 2 times out of 7 jobs? Lower league clubs? All in the same division we're in bar 1. And in case you forgot we were a strong PL club so obviously we wouldn't have been fishing for 'lower league' managers. Past few appointments have been great though eh? I get it you don't want him but not sure why you're ignoring facts/making your own up, trying to spin a certain narrative straight out of Top's playbook. Time to accept the new reality we're in I'm afraid. Sacked by Birmingham, Stoke and Oxford. Had his contract mutually terminated at Millwall when they were struggling. Contract at Birmingham during second spell there wasn’t renewed after he oversaw their relegation to League 1. I get you want him but not sure why you’re ignoring facts/making your own up to spin a narrative straight out of Top’s playbook. 1
markko Posted 28 January Posted 28 January 8 hours ago, Muzzy_no7 said: Oh FFS because dragging it out in 22/23 didn’t have any effect did it. F***ing w**k*rs This is what I feared would happen. Why have they not got the sporting director in place? Rudkin was moved months ago. We have now sacked a manager, have to pay him off. START giving some thought to who we bring in. In the meantime no incomings. The only bonus in all this madness is we seem to be shipping out the utter dross. If Soumare and Winks are off the wage bill by the end of the month that would be something.Rudkin can then bury his abject failure in paying the fees and wages in the first place.
Tommy Fresh Posted 28 January Posted 28 January 1 minute ago, funkyrobot said: Sacked by Birmingham, Stoke and Oxford. Had his contract mutually terminated at Millwall when they were struggling. Contract at Birmingham during second spell there wasn’t renewed after he oversaw their relegation to League 1. I get you want him but not sure why you’re ignoring facts/making your own up to spin a narrative straight out of Top’s playbook. He was interim at Birmingham the second time wasn't he? 1
MGLCFC Posted 28 January Posted 28 January It's going to be a long time before can can attract an elite manager, so what ever choice is made, a significant number on here will be disappointed. Do we take a chance with an upcoming manager from a lower league or go with experience. Personally, I'd like experience as an interim until the end of the season just to steady the ship, then look to reset in the summer.
teblin Posted 28 January Posted 28 January 8 minutes ago, funkyrobot said: Sacked by Birmingham, Stoke and Oxford. Had his contract mutually terminated at Millwall when they were struggling. Contract at Birmingham during second spell there wasn’t renewed after he oversaw their relegation to League 1. I get you want him but not sure why you’re ignoring facts/making your own up to spin a narrative straight out of Top’s playbook. The sacked by Birmingham the 1st time was uproar had them up near the play off and they brought in zola a think who was terrible. 1
funkyrobot Posted 28 January Posted 28 January Just now, Tommy Fresh said: He was interim at Birmingham the second time wasn't he? Yeh, but keeping them in the division was his task. He failed and obviously wasn’t offered the full time job!
Mickyblueeyes Posted 28 January Posted 28 January If we went for someone like Skubala I’d rather we did it in the summer. Give him a full pre season and lot of this lot out the door. He’s young, up and coming. He’ll have new ideas and he needs that pre season to implement. Coming into to a club in our current shape, mid season - trying to work out who’s got the integrity to put in a shift etc. with the pressure of having to win games - can go wrong very quickly !! 2
ClaphamFox Posted 28 January Posted 28 January Just now, Mickyblueeyes said: If we went for someone like Skubala I’d rather we did it in the summer. Give him a full pre season and lot of this lot out the door. He’s young, up and coming. He’ll have new ideas and he needs that pre season to implement. Coming into to a club in our current shape, mid season - trying to work out who’s got the integrity to put in a shift etc. with the pressure of having to win games - can go wrong very quickly !! All good points. But what would you do from now until the summer?
Mickyblueeyes Posted 28 January Posted 28 January Just now, ClaphamFox said: All good points. But what would you do from now until the summer? Can’t believe I’m saying this but the way this season has gone, we have one of two challenges. 1, we hit an extraordinary run (which happens in this league) and scrape the play offs; or 2, more realistic - we are in real danger of being dragged into a relegation fight and need someone to get enough points to keep us away from it. If 1, was to happen, the “interim” probably gets the job pass the summer. However, if 2 happens, which I think is more likely, we need a manager who knows this league and has been in this position before - someone like Rowett fits that bill. 1
FLAN Posted 28 January Posted 28 January 2 hours ago, teblin said: I think they already know who the TD is, just can’t announce yet. So they could be consulted before they are in place? It’s….Marti Cifuentes. Top had another change of heart
Outfox the Fox Posted 28 January Posted 28 January (edited) 1 hour ago, Claudio Fannieri said: Agreed and I would also add Coleman may have offered his services to the club on an interim basis and the leak has come from his side to raise his profile and get his name back out there in the public domain in the hope of securing a gig in league 1 or 2 when the opportunity arises. I think that could well be true. Kingy's 'backup'? They have obviously worked together with Wales. One other thought has crossed my mind, could Coleman be the incoming Technical Director?! Edited 28 January by Outfox the Fox
davieG Posted 28 January Posted 28 January 8 hours ago, ClaphamFox said: This is a perfect illustration of the lunacy that can occur when people trust a story on Football Insider. The most important thing to know about Football Insider is that it is purely web-based and has no subscription. In other words, it is very heavily dependent on ad revenue, which in turn means it is heavily dependent on driving traffic to the site (advertisers won’t pay to appear on a site with low traffic). Clicks are everything to Football Insider—without them, it cannot survive. To generate clicks, it has to continually publish stories that it knows will generate interest, and manager gossip stories are perfect for that because fans of manager-less clubs will always be very interested in rumours about who their next boss will be. This need to constantly generate stories means that Football Insider is far more likely to publish speculative and inventive stories than mainstream publications. They need those clicks—and what better way to generate clicks than linking a vacant manager’s position with someone they know will get the fans riled up. Hence above, Football League World have taken the Football Insider story and put it to a Leicester fan in order to generate an outraged reaction—and the fan has duly obliged, creating another story out of nothing. And on it goes… Why I publish the story rather than just the link. 4 hours ago, Muzzy_no7 said: But that means it’s probably going to be Russell Martin! For a second I thought it was Russell Martini the great Italian coach.
moore_94 Posted 28 January Posted 28 January 32 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said: If we went for someone like Skubala I’d rather we did it in the summer. Give him a full pre season and lot of this lot out the door. He’s young, up and coming. He’ll have new ideas and he needs that pre season to implement. Coming into to a club in our current shape, mid season - trying to work out who’s got the integrity to put in a shift etc. with the pressure of having to win games - can go wrong very quickly !! He probably wouldn’t want to join in the summer after they come up and we go down… 1
JayT - Always A Fox! Posted 28 January Posted 28 January (edited) 9 hours ago, BrilliantFox said: "Skubala started his coaching career whilst teaching PE at Lutterworth College in Leicestershire." Honestly just **** off, liquidate this club and burn the stadium to the ground. So, because he didn’t have a ‘playing career’ means he’s crap does it? Sarri, Nagelsmann, Mourinho to name a few ‘non-players’. Do some reading and research pal before you throw your toys out the pram. Edited 28 January by JayT - Always A Fox!
Vazman Posted 28 January Posted 28 January 7 minutes ago, JayT - Always A Fox! said: So, because he didn’t have a ‘playing career’ means he’s crap does it? Sarri, Nagelsmann, Mourinho to name a few ‘non-players’. Do some reading and research pal before you throw your toys out the pram. Calm down Skubsy... 1
Tommy Fresh Posted 28 January Posted 28 January 1 hour ago, funkyrobot said: Yeh, but keeping them in the division was his task. He failed and obviously wasn’t offered the full time job! Do you know they were ever planning on offering him it full time? He also went in after they'd taken 1 point from their previous 6 games and managed to take 11 points from 8 games, so actually had they brought him in straight after Mowbray had left they'd of likely stayed up. 1
ClaphamFox Posted 28 January Posted 28 January 45 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said: Can’t believe I’m saying this but the way this season has gone, we have one of two challenges. 1, we hit an extraordinary run (which happens in this league) and scrape the play offs; or 2, more realistic - we are in real danger of being dragged into a relegation fight and need someone to get enough points to keep us away from it. If 1, was to happen, the “interim” probably gets the job pass the summer. However, if 2 happens, which I think is more likely, we need a manager who knows this league and has been in this position before - someone like Rowett fits that bill. We’re in a tricky spot because the managerial job we need doing now is very different to the one we’ll need doing in the summer. Right now, we’re in full-blown crisis management mode—we need to avoid relegation at all costs. This means we desperately require somebody who can bring organisation and structure, improve the team’s mental strength and make them much more resilient. We need a firefighter who can get quick results, and Rowett has shown that he can do that. In the summer, whether we get relegated or not, we will be in rebuild mode. A bunch of players will be out of contract and a few others will be sold, and we’ll be starting again with a core of academy players supported, hopefully, by some decent acquisitions in a few positions. I’m not sure if Rowett is the man for this job based on his record. Would Rowett take it on an interim basis for the rest of the season if we offered him enough of a bonus for keeping us up? I have no idea. But if he would, he may well be the ideal candidate for what we need right now. Just not for the long term.
Popular Post winteriscoming Posted 28 January Author Popular Post Posted 28 January Looking at Hassenhutl’s record at Southampton in the premiership he finished 16th, 11th, and 15th. Then finished 11th with Wolfsburg in the Bundesliga. Decent without being brilliant but that’s where we are now. Certainly think he should be under consideration. Rather have him over Martin, Rowett and Coleman. 7
Parker Pen Posted 28 January Posted 28 January 13 minutes ago, winteriscoming said: Looking at Hassenhutl’s record at Southampton in the premiership he finished 16th, 11th, and 15th. Then finished 11th with Wolfsburg in the Bundesliga. Decent without being brilliant but that’s where we are now. Certainly think he should be under consideration. Rather have him over Martin, Rowett and Coleman. Not bad but his salary at Southampton was about £6 million a year so unless he fancies a pay cut then I think that would be too much for us nowadays. Maybe the names like Coleman and Martin are being banded about so when Robert is announced we are all thankful!
ClaphamFox Posted 28 January Posted 28 January (edited) 25 minutes ago, winteriscoming said: Looking at Hassenhutl’s record at Southampton in the premiership he finished 16th, 11th, and 15th. Then finished 11th with Wolfsburg in the Bundesliga. Decent without being brilliant but that’s where we are now. Certainly think he should be under consideration. Rather have him over Martin, Rowett and Coleman. I’d probably take Hassenhutl over Rowett in the summer, but I’d take Rowett over Hassenhutl right now. Rowett’s teams are built on doing simple things well—low/mid block, compact lines, fewer risky transitions. I suspect this kind of ‘back to basics’ approach would improve confidence and help us grind out enough results to survive this season. I think Hassenhutl favours a higher defensive line and press, and risk-taking transitions. Our squad’s nerves are already shot to pieces & I don’t think this would work with them, particularly we don’t really have the players for a high press. With a clean slate and a whole preseason to prepare, Hassenhutl might shape our young squad into an attractive team full of pace and aggression, but I’m sceptical that he could accomplish this in the middle of a relegation scrap with an unconfident squad of players. I would avoid both Coleman and Martin like the plague. Edited 28 January by ClaphamFox
ashbyj Posted 28 January Posted 28 January Has Graham Potters name been mentioned as I spotted him this morning leaving Nottingham train station?
indierich06 Posted 28 January Posted 28 January The more I read about Skubala the more I like what I hear to be honest. We have had great success in our recent history by taking a punt on up-and-coming coaches - Maresca and Pearson had done nothing of note particularly before they came to us. Skubala seems to have done a fantastic job given the lack of resources at Lincoln. They also seem to play very much like we did when we had Vardy, Mahrez and Kante in their pomp. Don't worry about having 60-70% possession, be effective, press, and counter. We have to get away from the Pep-lite version of football that bores us all to death. I don't think there is the desire or appetite to appoint a coach like him though, I fear we will go with some washed up Championship duffer in the name of 'experience' or just go for someone like Russell Martin to keep on with this crap possession football.
indierich06 Posted 28 January Posted 28 January Just now, ashbyj said: Has Graham Potters name been mentioned as I spotted him this morning leaving Nottingham train station? He's finished - he's back in Sweden managing their national team isn't he?
LeePhilpottsBaldSpot Posted 28 January Posted 28 January 5 minutes ago, indierich06 said: The more I read about Skubala the more I like what I hear to be honest. We have had great success in our recent history by taking a punt on up-and-coming coaches - Maresca and Pearson had done nothing of note particularly before they came to us. Skubala seems to have done a fantastic job given the lack of resources at Lincoln. They also seem to play very much like we did when we had Vardy, Mahrez and Kante in their pomp. Don't worry about having 60-70% possession, be effective, press, and counter. We have to get away from the Pep-lite version of football that bores us all to death. I don't think there is the desire or appetite to appoint a coach like him though, I fear we will go with some washed up Championship duffer in the name of 'experience' or just go for someone like Russell Martin to keep on with this crap possession football. I'd like it in the summer - not mid-season into a relegation fight with a burning dressing room. The last two managers have been prospects who drowned in the job. Let's get some experience in the dugout until the summer - then go for a longer-term option like Skubala. 2
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