Charlton post match

[evil jack]

[Death by Football]

I turned the game on just in time to see Okoli sent off. Watched the rest and thought that this is genuinely match-fixing levels of shit ness. Is this part of our dodgy gambling sponsor arrangement because I truly struggle to understand how our players can contrive to be this poor. 

Edited 1 February by Death by Football

[Parafox]

2 hours ago, Raj said:

Like I said all those cumming all over King like hes the saviour of this club and all that wank.

THE PLAYERS are the problem here.

Even Jose Mourinho  or Antonio conte would struggle with these tossers.

 

See after Chatlton scored the 1st, all our little fairies walking to the centre circle, no leadership, no one going mad, no direction.

Wheres our Wes, wheres our Schmeichel,  Walshy, Elliot??

 

Rudderless from Top to bottom.

 

We are going down

Resigned to their fate.

 

And it's almost entirely of their own making. If any of them had the bollox to stand up against Cooper and subsequently Cifuentes and tell them they were wrong in their tactics and training, then they might come out of this debacle with  little bit of credit but they're coward in the dressing room and on the pitch.

 

If the rumours are true that Winks was dropped for criticising MC and his tactics as well his weak, underperforming teammates, then that instils fear of speaking out amongst the rest of the squad. 

 

I imagine the likes of Schmeichel, Vardy, Walsh etc would be chucking their boots at Cooper and Cif.

 

(By the way, I wish we were "Rudderless")

 

 

Edited 31 January by Parafox

[Parafox]

1 hour ago, Foxin_Mad said:

KPFC have driven out the real fans deliberately, filled the stadium with KPFC worshippers

ffs. This makes no sense. 

 

People have a choice to go or not.

 

The stadium is not the Red Square or Beijing.

 

 

Edited 31 January by Parafox

[fox_favourite]

19 minutes ago, evil jack said:

That sums us up perfectly @Loxm 

[Langton fox]

1 hour ago, LichesterRedSoxSoccerBall said:

Didn't watch or follow the game. Don't care that we lost. Don't care if we go down. Completely emotionless towards the club for the first time in 40 years. 

They why post on here? Up to you if you follow the club or not 

[Parafox]

24 minutes ago, Death by Football said:

I turned the game on just in time to see Okoli sent off. Watched the rest and thought that this is genuinely matching fixing levels of shit ness. Is this part of our dodgy gambling sponsor arrangement because I truly struggle to understand how our players can contrive to be this poor. 

They don't "contrive" to be poor, they just are.

 

They could be improved but not while we have such poor coaching, sadly a part of which involves Andy King.

[justfoxes]

What a bunch of PrimaFuchingDonnas only ones who really got some credit worthy comments are page & Aluko who played well today, also thought Winks steadied the midfield when he came on fed the ball through well, okoli what the Fuch was that Tw@ thinking pulling his shirt you knew he’d go down easily  which gave the ref an easy decision for the red card.

 

Andy King had his hands tied with the schitt team he had to pick his starting 11 from which got worse after the Cockwomble Okoli saw Red, thought his use of Substitutions were rather late being introduced when we had tired players having gone down to 10 men early on I was thinking he should have introduced them 10-15 minutes earlier than he did, this bunch of Fuchwits are going to get us relegated if Top doesn’t sort this schitt out 

[Foxin_Mad]

26 minutes ago, Parafox said:

ffs. This makes no sense. 

 

People have a choice to go or not.

 

The stadium is not the Red Square or Beijing.

 

 

Not if they are banned. King power have banned standers and singers over the years. They don’t like people who go against them. They have deliberately tried to suppress atmosphere and create and experience for day trippers, that’s why it’s one of the most soulless grounds in football. 

[Corky]

Nothing new to say. This happens every week. Occasionally we win but it is now the defeats we have deserved we are getting.

[Foxin_Mad]

16 minutes ago, Parafox said:

They don't "contrive" to be poor, they just are.

 

They could be improved but not while we have such poor coaching, sadly a part of which involves Andy King.

I’m not sure anyone can coach players giving a crap,  having some spine, some pride in their own performances. They have pathetic spineless gutless mentality, the club has for whatever reason decided to bring in a group of players with a poor mentality and no fight or pride. If any of that lot can honestly stand there and say they gave their all today or most of this season they are lying. The need an old school manager but most of them would probably cry off. 

[Parafox]

1 minute ago, Foxin_Mad said:

I’m not sure anyone can coach players giving a crap,  having some spine, some pride in their own performances. They have pathetic spineless gutless mentality, the club has for whatever reason decided to bring in a group of players with a poor mentality and no fight or pride. If any of that lot can honestly stand there and say they gave their all today or most of this season they are lying. The need an old school manager but most of them would probably cry off. 

What the Fk are you talking about. Stay of the booze,

[Foxin_Mad]

2 minutes ago, Parafox said:

What the Fk are you talking about. Stay of the booze,

Can you not read? It’s perfectly clear. What do you think the club did? It’s clearly Rudkins plan to assemble this excuse of a team as football director. T total fella. 
 

If you think this is a well crafted team of grafters I’d suggest it’s you on the booze 

Edited 31 January by Foxin_Mad

[Parafox]

6 minutes ago, Foxin_Mad said:

Can you not read? It’s perfectly clear. What do you think the club did? It’s clearly Rudkins plan to assemble this excuse of a team as football director. T total fella. 
 

If you think this is a well crafted team of grafters I’d suggest it’s you on the booze 

 

Explain this POV, please.

 

I dislike the man and he's nowhere near good enough to be our DoF but why would he deliberately sabotage his own position?

 

I don't think this is anything like a team of grafters, they're weak and uninspiring but who's motivating them? 

Edited 31 January by Parafox

[Foxin_Mad]

6 minutes ago, Parafox said:

 

Explain this POV, please.

 

I dislike the man and he's nowhere near good enough to be our DoF but why would he deliberately sabotage his own position?

 

I don't think this is anything like a team of grafters, they're weak and uninspiring but who's motivating them? 

I don’t think his deliberately sabotaging his own position he’s just so incompetent and stubborn that he genuinely believes this pass it out from the back tippy tappy pep light style is the way this club should play. Unfortunately we can not afford the quality of players to play that way, and in a way even pep has been found out playing that way as football evolves. We have brought defenders based on their supposed passing ability as opposed to their ability to defend, and then wonder why we can’t defend!!
 

There is no motivation or leadership but in a way I feel that’s by design, whether that’s as a result of the stronger characters who supposedly influenced dressing rooms I don’t know. A player needs to have a certain amount of belief, confidence and pride in their own performance. A manager can give an inspiring team talk but it’s up to the players on the pitch or at least the group. 

 

I don’t think we have strong voices in the club, but is that because certain people don’t want to be questioned?! We do need a big personality as manager to try and drag something out of these players although I think a lot of them would just fall out with whoever. 

[Parafox]

Just now, Foxin_Mad said:

I don’t think his deliberately sabotaging his own position he’s just so incompetent and stubborn that he genuinely believes this pass it out from the back tippy tappy pep light style is the way this club should play. Unfortunately we can not afford the quality of players to play that way, and in a way even pep has been found out playing that way as football evolves. We have brought defenders based on their supposed passing ability as opposed to their ability to defend, and then wonder why we can’t defend!!
 

There is no motivation or leadership but in a way I feel that’s by design, whether that’s as a result of the stronger characters who supposedly influenced dressing rooms I don’t know. A player needs to have a certain amount of belief, confidence and pride in their own performance. A manager can give an inspiring team talk but it’s up to the players on the pitch or at least the group. 

 

I don’t think we have strong voices in the club, but is that because certain people don’t want to be questioned?! We do need a big personality as manager to try and drag something out of these players although I think a lot of them would just fall out with whoever. 

 

That's a more balanced and reasonable response, thank you. 

 

Respect. 

[Loxm]

2 hours ago, fox_favourite said:

That sums us up perfectly @Loxm 

Very true 

[walkerleeds]

6 hours ago, em9999 said:

By the way we are 100% getting relegated 

 

It's the only outcome I see 

 

Look at the form table at the bottom, we're  not getting relegated (unless it is something in the region of a 9 point deduction). A couple of wins is probably enough and we've somehow managed 10 of those so far this season. 

[HP1]

8 hours ago, Fox92 said:

I said pre game Charlton would be to strong for us. It’s been like it all season, any team that want to come and battle us will beat us because we crumble.

 

Same boring team selection again. Players offer nothing. We need a strong manager.

 

Danger of relegation. Charlton, Oxford, Blackburn, Sheff Utd have all beat us at home ffs.

We also drew with wrexham and portsmouth and were lucky to beat West brom and sheff Wednesday 

[Pliskin]

Are they the worst team ever to win at the KP? 
 

It was an absolutely hideous game of football? And I can’t actually remember anything good about Charlton at all….. the two goals may as well have been own goals…..

[filbertway]

4 hours ago, evil jack said:

My god. watching people watch Leicester play has got to be a massive low point. Like thats a look in the mirror and evaluate your life job

 

Surely nobody does this

 

[HP1]

5 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

Are they the worst team ever to win at the KP? 
 

It was an absolutely hideous game of football? And I can’t actually remember anything good about Charlton at all….. the two goals may as well have been own goals…..

We lost to a poor Brighton team around 2005 1-0. Adam Virgo was the goalscorer 

[Wymsey]

10 hours ago, Blue-fox said:

Where was Vestergaard today?

Tried controlling his dog..

 

 

Edited 1 February by Wymsey

[Wizerud]

Maybe I'm being overly optimistic but I don't think we are going down. I also don't think yesterday's game is representative of where we're at due to the sending off. Even in the second half it didn't seem like it was 10 vs 11 and on another day we'd still have got something.

 

Ultimately I still believe we have a playoff-calibre squad who are massively underperforming due to a variety of reasons. They look under pressure, nervous. The off-the-field stuff is having an impact. But that can be solved if we can get a manager in who can get what resembles a tune out of them. 17 games, 51 points available. Even if our points deduction is 9 points, I'd still have confidence we'd comfortably avoid relegation. IF we can get a manager in who the players will respect.

 

In the meantime, Kingy and the players deserve another chance next week under normal playing conditions before we completely throw them under the bus 

[fox_favourite]

21 minutes ago, Wizerud said:

Maybe I'm being overly optimistic but I don't think we are going down. I also don't think yesterday's game is representative of where we're at due to the sending off. Even in the second half it didn't seem like it was 10 vs 11 and on another day we'd still have got something.

 

Ultimately I still believe we have a playoff-calibre squad who are massively underperforming due to a variety of reasons. They look under pressure, nervous. The off-the-field stuff is having an impact. But that can be solved if we can get a manager in who can get what resembles a tune out of them. 17 games, 51 points available. Even if our points deduction is 9 points, I'd still have confidence we'd comfortably avoid relegation. IF we can get a manager in who the players will respect.

 

In the meantime, Kingy and the players deserve another chance next week under normal playing conditions before we completely throw them under the bus 

Have you not seen that we have lost to a lot of teams below us? Have you not seen us v Oxford, Charlton, Blackburn Sheffield Utd twice, QPR, etc....we haven't kept a cleansheet since September etc....

 

We are horrendous, we have e players that don't want to be here. This is the relegation season after Rodgers all over again. We can go down and we will if we continue the way we are. 9pt deduction put us in the relegation zone. Portsmouth have 2 games in hand!

 

Do you really think this group of thick self indulgent wet wipes have the mental strength to get out of a relegation battle? We had the most expensive squad to ever be relegated from.the premier league, we shouldn't have e gone down that season. 

 

Like your optimism, but there's are too many red flags for us not to take relegation as a real and highly possible outcome. We are a mess. 

Edited 1 February by fox_favourite