Gary Rowett

[Ashley]

3 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

Enzo wouldn’t get this squad we currently have near the play offs though 

I think he probably does. 

[1972 Fox]

14 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

Enzo wouldn’t get this squad we currently have near the play offs though 

 

11 minutes ago, Ashley said:

I think he probably does. 

The poor quality and stinking attitude of this squad is nowhere near the play-offs, with Enzo or any other manager, even without the 6 point deduction.

[Foxin_Mad]

On 06/04/2026 at 17:25, CL Fox said:

Incredible 🤣 

Incredible is defending that useless ****

On 06/04/2026 at 18:09, Arriba Los Zorros said:

Should have kept Marti tbh. He was rubbish but at least he got the odd win now and then

No we shouldn't. Only thing that bloke had was a bit of luck, at best we deserved to win 2 games under him, the rest was pure luck or Jordan James/Fatawu brilliance. Take that away the useless shit head would have won **** all because he was a clueless halfwit, wed already be relegated under him. You might fluke a win then lose the next 4-0 against some shit no mark team. Clueless clown head. The worst manager every who has put us in this position we shouldn't have been in. 

[teblin]

13 hours ago, 1972 Fox said:

 

The poor quality and stinking attitude of this squad is nowhere near the play-offs, with Enzo or any other manager, even without the 6 point deduction.

Only thing I’d Enzo wouldn’t have had Ayew, BDR and Skipp is his team. As we wouldn’t have bought them. That’s on cooper. 
 

I don’t think Rowett has been terrible, we have had enough chance in the last 3 games to be well out of the bottom 3. I also don’t think he’s been great either.

 

Poor recruitment across the board.Players, managers, coaches and at board level. Simple as that really.

[Foxin_Mad]

The trouble is any manager is bound by the constraints of the clueless clowns running the show. That is largely why we end up with idiots. 

[Guppys Love Child]

13 hours ago, whoareyaaa said:

Enzo wouldn’t get this squad we currently have near the play offs though 

I agree,  partly because this squad is...well a bit sh1t.

 

This team isn't good enough to implement the technical aspects of Enzoball.

 

Added also the fact Enzoball itself as a system was "found out" in the second half of the season and now even Championship teams are clued up on how to combat and nullify it.

 

[JonnyBoy]

All the managers we have had are weak characters, RVN probably the outlier as he had the bollocks to remove people from the squad. Cooper, Marti and now Rowett are all too nice

 

I thought Rowett had some bite, but seeing his interviews he still comes across as a yes man. Afraid to make any real impactful changes

 

Just another, soft soft manager 

 

[AKCJ]

14 minutes ago, JonnyBoy said:

All the managers we have had are weak characters, RVN probably the outlier as he had the bollocks to remove people from the squad. Cooper, Marti and now Rowett are all too nice

 

I thought Rowett had some bite, but seeing his interviews he still comes across as a yes man. Afraid to make any real impactful changes

 

Just another, soft soft manager 

 

Rowett has come in with the arm around the shoulder approach and the players have walked all over him.

 

We needed someone to come in and start knocking some heads together. The players are undermining him already because he's a soft touch.

[JonnyBoy]

15 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

Rowett has come in with the arm around the shoulder approach and the players have walked all over him.

 

We needed someone to come in and start knocking some heads together. The players are undermining him already because he's a soft touch.

 

yep it is the wrong approach, absiolutely needed a Warnock type character 

 

the arm round the shoulder doesn't work with characters like ayew and mavididi, it just panders to their overinflated sense of self 

[Foxin_Mad]

32 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

Rowett has come in with the arm around the shoulder approach and the players have walked all over him.

 

We needed someone to come in and start knocking some heads together. The players are undermining him already because he's a soft touch.

I get why he’s done it, if you are going to come in all guns blazing in the middle of the season with a soft bunch of wimps you will probably make them cry and be even worse. 

 

It’s not worked either way. We will probably sink to league 2 next year if any of these clowns are still present.

[Sol thewall Bamba]

Also where has he got the stat that we've had 52 shots on goal in the last two games

[ClaphamFox]

3 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

Also where has he got the stat that we've had 52 shots on goal in the last two games

We had 28 shots against Preston and 24 against Sheff Wed. Obviously taking a shot does not mean you’ve created a decent chance, but the stat is correct.

[AKCJ]

5 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

Also where has he got the stat that we've had 52 shots on goal in the last two games

28 against PNE and 24 against Sheff Wed according to BBC.

 

Only 22 on target though.

[HankMarvin]

28 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

Also where has he got the stat that we've had 52 shots on goal in the last two games

On goal would allude to the fact that they are on target.

17 shots on target across 2 games 

8.5 per game 

meh

[Tommy Fresh]

1 hour ago, JonnyBoy said:

 

yep it is the wrong approach, absiolutely needed a Warnock type character 

 

the arm round the shoulder doesn't work with characters like ayew and mavididi, it just panders to their overinflated sense of self 

Neil Warnock let Adel Taarabt not turn up to training 

[Chrysalis]

15 hours ago, 1972 Fox said:

 

The poor quality and stinking attitude of this squad is nowhere near the play-offs, with Enzo or any other manager, even without the 6 point deduction.

Yep, I remember when KDH wasnt available, team looked torrid, Enzo got the best out players like Winks, Vesty and Ricardo, but he wouldnt have kept us up in the EPL, and we wouldnt be chasing promotion this season.

If anything he would have resigned, as we know he wasnt happy with Rudkin even when we was winning a lot.

I wish people started looking above the manager, thats where the problems are, they need fixing before the manager can be fixed.

Edited 8 April by Chrysalis

[Spanner73]

18 minutes ago, Chrysalis said:

Yep, I remember when KDH wasnt available, team looked torrid, Enzo got the best out players like Winks, Vesty and Ricardo, but he wouldnt have kept us up in the EPL, and we wouldnt be chasing promotion this season.

If anything he would have resigned, as we know he wasnt happy with Rudkin even when we was winning a lot.

I wish people started looking above the manager, thats where the problems are, they need fixing before the manager can be fixed.

Exactly ! 
You can have the best manager you could get but they’re still at the mercy of the 2 clowns 🤡 upstairs and until that totally changes we won’t get anywhere. That’s why all the managers we have had, have all failed. 

 

[inckley fox]

15 hours ago, Ashley said:

I think he probably does. 

It was the most predictable promotion in the entire history of the division. The highest wage bill. A set of players who'd done well in the PL if you went back over a season. He inherited Ndidi, KDH, the younger Pereira and the younger Vardy. He got money to spend, and with which to bring in the likes of Hermansen, Fatawu and a fully-motivated Winks.

 

And even then we were barely in top six form for the final quarter of the season. The slump in form which continues to consume us to this day arguably began in that second half of the Maresca campaign. Few if any of his players proved to be truly fine acquisitions (the profit made on Hermansen, whose ability to make the step up to EPL was nonetheless very dubious, may make him the best candidate). And it was always clear that we'd never get away with playing his brand of football if we did go up, thus necessitating a painful and ultimately disastrous transition under his successor.

 

He deserves full credit for earning a promotion, regardless of how likely it was, and how unconvincing at times. But the idea that he would have done better than he was doing towards the end of his reign with no money, no Hermansen, no Vardy, no Ndidi, no KDH, a past-it Pereira, a points deduction (with another possibly on its way) and the most poisonous of atmospheres at every level of the club, is fanciful to say the least.

 

He was a short-term fix to a long-term problem, a shoo-in for success who delivered exactly what he was expected to, but did nothing to address the things that needed addressing. Kidding ourselves otherwise gives the false impression that we need more Enzos, that this board can occasionally get things spot on, or even that these players - with the right boss - could be world-beaters. The sooner we get over all three of these delusions and focus on the glaringly obvious issues at hand, the better.

[Sol thewall Bamba]

1 hour ago, ClaphamFox said:

We had 28 shots against Preston and 24 against Sheff Wed. Obviously taking a shot does not mean you’ve created a decent chance, but the stat is correct.

 

1 hour ago, AKCJ said:

28 against PNE and 24 against Sheff Wed according to BBC.

 

Only 22 on target though.

Fair enough I go off the Google stats which only gave us 38 across the two games.

[StanSP]

2 hours ago, AKCJ said:

28 against PNE and 24 against Sheff Wed according to BBC.

 

Only 22 on target though.

That's still a lot in two games! 

 

Only scoring 3 from that is pathetic. 

[turtmcfly]

2 hours ago, JonnyBoy said:

All the managers we have had are weak characters, RVN probably the outlier as he had the bollocks to remove people from the squad. Cooper, Marti and now Rowett are all too nice

 

I thought Rowett had some bite, but seeing his interviews he still comes across as a yes man. Afraid to make any real impactful changes

 

Just another, soft soft manager 

 

 

I'm not being flippant when I say 'being a yes man' will be top of Rudkin's requirement list for any new senior personnel, now more than ever. 

 

 

[turtmcfly]

7 minutes ago, StanSP said:

That's still a lot in two games! 

 

Only scoring 3 from that is pathetic. 

 

...and at the same time, oppo teams seem to score a goal for every five attacking moves

 

 

[AKCJ]

12 minutes ago, StanSP said:

That's still a lot in two games! 

 

Only scoring 3 from that is pathetic. 

Especially considering two of them were put on a plate through terrible defending.

[SafewayFox]

14 hours ago, inckley fox said:

It was the most predictable promotion in the entire history of the division. The highest wage bill. A set of players who'd done well in the PL if you went back over a season. He inherited Ndidi, KDH, the younger Pereira and the younger Vardy. He got money to spend, and with which to bring in the likes of Hermansen, Fatawu and a fully-motivated Winks.

 

And even then we were barely in top six form for the final quarter of the season. The slump in form which continues to consume us to this day arguably began in that second half of the Maresca campaign. Few if any of his players proved to be truly fine acquisitions (the profit made on Hermansen, whose ability to make the step up to EPL was nonetheless very dubious, may make him the best candidate). And it was always clear that we'd never get away with playing his brand of football if we did go up, thus necessitating a painful and ultimately disastrous transition under his successor.

 

He deserves full credit for earning a promotion, regardless of how likely it was, and how unconvincing at times. But the idea that he would have done better than he was doing towards the end of his reign with no money, no Hermansen, no Vardy, no Ndidi, no KDH, a past-it Pereira, a points deduction (with another possibly on its way) and the most poisonous of atmospheres at every level of the club, is fanciful to say the least.

 

He was a short-term fix to a long-term problem, a shoo-in for success who delivered exactly what he was expected to, but did nothing to address the things that needed addressing. Kidding ourselves otherwise gives the false impression that we need more Enzos, that this board can occasionally get things spot on, or even that these players - with the right boss - could be world-beaters. The sooner we get over all three of these delusions and focus on the glaringly obvious issues at hand, the better.

Whilst I agree with the majority of this post, do you genuinely believe that Enzo signs Skipp, Ayew and Reid?

 

Those signings alone, made us weaker than the year before (losing our best player in KDH).

 

For me, it was so simple, replace KDH with a like for like player - don’t spunk £70m on the above and even Bilal (we had Buonanotte on loan already).

 

Search Europe for a striker who can play up top on his own and has the benefit of learning from Vardy/rotating.

 

We’d have been in such a better position, or in even simpler terms….do what Sunderland did this year….look at their signings compared to ours, hideous mis-management from our two clowns and Glover, when will he get the much deserved criticism that he deserves on here btw?

[Pliskin]

18 hours ago, AKCJ said:

Rowett has come in with the arm around the shoulder approach and the players have walked all over him.

 

We needed someone to come in and start knocking some heads together. The players are undermining him already because he's a soft touch.

Spot on. Look how Roy has got Bristol going, two wins since he came in? And they looked worse than us. 
 

Rowett, hasn’t been the authoritarian that we needed.