After International Break - Clueless as ever?

[Tommy G]

Blokes gone for a weekend away with his Mrs for a few days and Foxestalk meltdown, absolute classic. 

[AKCJ]

23 hours ago, Guppys Love Child said:

Do you proof read your posts before submitting?

 

Actually go back and read this out aloud and see how, IMO, silly it sounds.

 

There are no matches, so why risk over training at the weekend  just to fulfil "the remit of keeping us in this division and he should be spending every hour he can to ensure we do so"

 

Also.  Your point above in bold.

 

We have more away than you think, both at senior and youth level who are currently involved with the match day squad and potentially could make the bench.

( see bottom)

So I'll ask you this,  how would Rowett get anything meaningful out of training with the remaining players that could make it to Seagrave?  

 

Total LCFC Players on International Duty: 13

Senior Call-Ups

| Jordan James | Wales |
| Hamza Choudhury | Bangladesh |
| Bobby De Cordova‑Reid | Jamaica |
| Abdul Fatawu | Ghana |
| Jordan Ayew | Ghana |
| Patson Daka | Zambia |

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🧒 Youth International Call-Ups

U21
- Ben Nelson – England U21  
 

U20
- Bade Aluko – England U20

U19
- Divine Mukasa – England U19

U18
- Louis Page – England U18  
- Jeremy Monga – England U18  
- Lorenz Hutchinson – England U18

U17
- Hugo De Lisle – England U17

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✔️ Total Count
- 6 senior internationals
- 7 youth internationals
- = 13 total players away

 

 I count the bottom two of Lorenz and Hugo as not realistically being involved in the match day squad  unlike the remainder of the list, who play in key areas. 

 

Let the bloke have is weekend off with his Mrs, 

 

 

How many of those are realistically going to be involved in the first team? In terms of undisputed starters i'm counting two but then you've probably got to play one of the two strikers.

 

I'd say that 4 of those players would start in what Rowett would see as our best 11.

[Phil Mitchell]

Fresh Gifs on standby for one last month of carnage, at least I’ve prepped. Phil

[Les-TA-Jon]

30 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

How many of those are realistically going to be involved in the first team? In terms of undisputed starters i'm counting two but then you've probably got to play one of the two strikers.

 

I'd say that 4 of those players would start in what Rowett would see as our best 11.

10 of those players have been in and out of the lineup under Rowett and in (probably) each of his squads. 

Edited 1 April by Les-TA-Jon

[PaulW]

On 30/03/2026 at 18:21, AKCJ said:

I think a man with his responsibilities and pay should be able to go 1 month and a half without sunning himself. Especially when he's in charge of a team that is massively underperforming.

 

He's not some admin-level office worker that should just clock off at 5pm and forget about work when he's not there. He's taken a job with the remit of keeping us in this division and he should be spending every hour he can to ensure we do so.

 

We've got very few players away with their countries. I'd expect them to have been working hard this last week. The big holiday comes when we're sure we're not going down.

 

Taking time off when he's had very little time on the training ground and we've got arguably our two biggest games since our relegation in 2022/23 and he's just come off the back of 8 weeks between jobs is ridiculous to be honest and wouldn't be accepted at a serious club.

Players don't train at the weekend, what would you want him to do, go to Seagrave and play FIFA Manager for 12 hours a day?

[CornwallFox]

2 hours ago, AKCJ said:

How many of those are realistically going to be involved in the first team? In terms of undisputed starters i'm counting two but then you've probably got to play one of the two strikers.

 

I'd say that 4 of those players would start in what Rowett would see as our best 11.

Out of interest, what exactly do you think they do on the training field that doing more of it would have any meaningful effect on the next match?

They're professional footballers. They aren't going in and learning new skills. 

They train specific tactics for an opposition. How much of that do you think you can do? 

Presenteeism is not a basis for good managerial decisions. 

[Sol thewall Bamba]

19 hours ago, Tommy G said:

Blokes gone for a weekend away with his Mrs for a few days and Foxestalk meltdown, absolute classic. 

3 comments is hardly a meltdown. 3 pages of crying about said "meltdown" is though

[AKCJ]

29 minutes ago, CornwallFox said:

Out of interest, what exactly do you think they do on the training field that doing more of it would have any meaningful effect on the next match?

They're professional footballers. They aren't going in and learning new skills. 

They train specific tactics for an opposition. How much of that do you think you can do? 

Presenteeism is not a basis for good managerial decisions. 

The fact that you think it would be presenteeism means we can't have a good debate on it.

 

I firmly believe that he does not need a weekend away after being in the job for a little over a month and having previously been out of work for around two months. Especially considering the current situation the club is in and the fact he can go for a months long holiday in a few weeks time should he wish to. He's paid more than well enough for us to expect his full attention during this period of the season.

 

He's been in the job for exactly 42 days. In which time we've played 7 games. Assuming they don't train on the day of a game or the day after, plus an extra day off in the week, it means he's spent 21 days with the squad on the training ground doing his job.

 

This week was a perfect opportunity to use the ~17/18 first team players he has available to him to really get his ideas down before two of the biggest games we've had in years given the potential consequences of relegation.

 

I'm not asking him to sit at Seagrave for 20 hours a day. I'm asking the manager of the club to forego a long weekend in the sun in order to maximise the chances of success in those two games. His full attention should be on PNE and Sheffield Wednesday, not his tan.

 

For me, this is in keeping with the soft touch the club has developed over the last few years where there are no standards or pride in a strong work ethic. Seagrave is a collection of people here solely for the money we dish out and not the collective aims and ambitions of the supporters. We're in the bottom three with a handful of games to go in April and our manager is going on holidays and posting it on social media. It'd be funny if it were Forest, Cov or Derby. 

[Tommy G]

1 minute ago, AKCJ said:

The fact that you think it would be presenteeism means we can't have a good debate on it.

 

I firmly believe that he does not need a weekend away after being in the job for a little over a month and having previously been out of work for around two months. Especially considering the current situation the club is in and the fact he can go for a months long holiday in a few weeks time should he wish to. He's paid more than well enough for us to expect his full attention during this period of the season.

 

He's been in the job for exactly 42 days. In which time we've played 7 games. Assuming they don't train on the day of a game or the day after, plus an extra day off in the week, it means he's spent 21 days with the squad on the training ground doing his job.

 

This week was a perfect opportunity to use the ~17/18 first team players he has available to him to really get his ideas down before two of the biggest games we've had in years given the potential consequences of relegation.

 

I'm not asking him to sit at Seagrave for 20 hours a day. I'm asking the manager of the club to forego a long weekend in the sun in order to maximise the chances of success in those two games. His full attention should be on PNE and Sheffield Wednesday, not his tan.

 

For me, this is in keeping with the soft touch the club has developed over the last few years where there are no standards or pride in a strong work ethic. Seagrave is a collection of people here solely for the money we dish out and not the collective aims and ambitions of the supporters. We're in the bottom three with a handful of games to go in April and our manager is going on holidays and posting it on social media. It'd be funny if it were Forest, Cov or Derby. 

Do you go into work on your days off btw?

[AKCJ]

Just now, Tommy G said:

Do you go into work on your days off btw?

I'm not on millions a year as the figurehead of a company that is failing massively but yes, I do occasionally give up my spare time to get myself ahead during busy periods of the year in order to meet deadlines.

[Tommy G]

37 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

I'm not on millions a year as the figurehead of a company that is failing massively but yes, I do occasionally give up my spare time to get myself ahead during busy periods of the year in order to meet deadlines.

Rowett isn't on millions a year FWIW. 

 

It's a bit of a 1990s view that overtime or being present at your workplace is seen as a good thing - you are also linking pay to the number of extra hours you should work. Most people in my experience that are paid a ''lot of money'' are very good at managing their time and others within their team very effectively to achieve good results, not just head down working 70 hours a week - in my experience they are typically the least effective people and will procrastinate and never reach the top of the tree because of those weaknesses.

[Les-TA-Jon]

55 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

The fact that you think it would be presenteeism means we can't have a good debate on it.

 

I firmly believe that he does not need a weekend away after being in the job for a little over a month and having previously been out of work for around two months. Especially considering the current situation the club is in and the fact he can go for a months long holiday in a few weeks time should he wish to. He's paid more than well enough for us to expect his full attention during this period of the season.

 

He's been in the job for exactly 42 days. In which time we've played 7 games. Assuming they don't train on the day of a game or the day after, plus an extra day off in the week, it means he's spent 21 days with the squad on the training ground doing his job.

 

This week was a perfect opportunity to use the ~17/18 first team players he has available to him to really get his ideas down before two of the biggest games we've had in years given the potential consequences of relegation.

 

I'm not asking him to sit at Seagrave for 20 hours a day. I'm asking the manager of the club to forego a long weekend in the sun in order to maximise the chances of success in those two games. His full attention should be on PNE and Sheffield Wednesday, not his tan.

 

For me, this is in keeping with the soft touch the club has developed over the last few years where there are no standards or pride in a strong work ethic. Seagrave is a collection of people here solely for the money we dish out and not the collective aims and ambitions of the supporters. We're in the bottom three with a handful of games to go in April and our manager is going on holidays and posting it on social media. It'd be funny if it were Forest, Cov or Derby. 

Are you equally annoyed about the other non-working days Rowett must have had since he started?

Or is your expectation that he should have worked 42 days straight?

And what does 'work' look like in this context, on those days when the players are not there? 

[CornwallFox]

1 hour ago, AKCJ said:

The fact that you think it would be presenteeism means we can't have a good debate on it.

 

I firmly believe that he does not need a weekend away after being in the job for a little over a month and having previously been out of work for around two months. Especially considering the current situation the club is in and the fact he can go for a months long holiday in a few weeks time should he wish to. He's paid more than well enough for us to expect his full attention during this period of the season.

 

He's been in the job for exactly 42 days. In which time we've played 7 games. Assuming they don't train on the day of a game or the day after, plus an extra day off in the week, it means he's spent 21 days with the squad on the training ground doing his job.

 

This week was a perfect opportunity to use the ~17/18 first team players he has available to him to really get his ideas down before two of the biggest games we've had in years given the potential consequences of relegation.

 

I'm not asking him to sit at Seagrave for 20 hours a day. I'm asking the manager of the club to forego a long weekend in the sun in order to maximise the chances of success in those two games. His full attention should be on PNE and Sheffield Wednesday, not his tan.

 

For me, this is in keeping with the soft touch the club has developed over the last few years where there are no standards or pride in a strong work ethic. Seagrave is a collection of people here solely for the money we dish out and not the collective aims and ambitions of the supporters. We're in the bottom three with a handful of games to go in April and our manager is going on holidays and posting it on social media. It'd be funny if it were Forest, Cov or Derby. 

Again, you entirely missing the point. 

Exactly what is it you think they'd be doing? 

 

Getting his ideas across? He has a pretty straightforward tactical set up. Anything game specific is done in a relatively short space of time. 

 

Honestly, you just appear to be moaning for the sake of moaning.

 

I'm sure if he thought there was value in additional training he'd be doing it. Clearly he sees more value in rest and recuperation. Given our performances have generally improved a little under him, I think that's a fair assessment, particularly when you consider it's generally an assessment managers arrive at during the final part of the season.

 

You don't appear to have much support on here and aren't able to describe any reason why you know better than the manager, so perhaps you should consider whether you're really an authority on this.

[AKCJ]

9 minutes ago, CornwallFox said:

Again, you entirely missing the point. 

Exactly what is it you think they'd be doing? 

 

Getting his ideas across? He has a pretty straightforward tactical set up. Anything game specific is done in a relatively short space of time. 

 

Honestly, you just appear to be moaning for the sake of moaning.

 

I'm sure if he thought there was value in additional training he'd be doing it. Clearly he sees more value in rest and recuperation. Given our performances have generally improved a little under him, I think that's a fair assessment, particularly when you consider it's generally an assessment managers arrive at during the final part of the season.

 

You don't appear to have much support on here and aren't able to describe any reason why you know better than the manager, so perhaps you should consider whether you're really an authority on this.

Calm down big head. Who claimed I was an authority on football management? If this is the route you want to go down, what gives your opinions a greater weight to mine?

 

He's been here for 10 minutes and the first chance of spending time with his squad he takes a holiday despite the position we are in and then plastered it on social media. All well and good until we're 20 minutes in on Friday and 2-0 down with the squad looking as clueless as ever.

 

Saying that, he's won 1 game in 7 here in his 42 days so perhaps you're right. Spending as little time as possible with the squad is probably beneficial.

 

Edited 1 April by AKCJ

[AKCJ]

33 minutes ago, Les-TA-Jon said:

Are you equally annoyed about the other non-working days Rowett must have had since he started?

Or is your expectation that he should have worked 42 days straight?

And what does 'work' look like in this context, on those days when the players are not there? 

I'd expect the manager to have used this opportunity to work on ensuring we give ourselves the best chance possible to win the next two games over the Easter weekend.

 

Given he's barely had any time with the squad (granted a small handful are away on internationals) I would have thought he'd use that opportunity to his advantage and not to spend it on holiday so soon after a huge break.

 

That is all.

[Katy]

People on ‘millions of pounds a year’ are allowed days off too. Shocking I know 🙄

[Samilktray]

Gary Rowett clearly not a fan of Huel or Steven Bartlett's podcast with that attitude to taking his days off 

[Cincinnati Fox]

On 30/03/2026 at 11:57, AKCJ said:

https://www.instagram.com/garyrowett1/p/DWep-I9jtdl/

I hate the club as much as the next man. But a weekend in Portugal during the international break is ok

[AKCJ]

12 minutes ago, Katy said:

People on ‘millions of pounds a year’ are allowed days off too. Shocking I know 🙄

He's just had 8 weeks off and will probably have a similar number of weeks off in a month and a couple of months time btw.

[CosbehFox]

Joe Aribo, Jamaal Lascelles, Stephy Mavididi, Caleb Okoli, Ricardo Pereira, Oliver Skipp, Jakub Stolarczyk, Luke Thomas, Jannik Vestergaard, Fran Vieites, Harry Winks, Dujuan Richards, Silko Thomas 

 

13 first-teams in full fitness for training at the moment including two keepers 

 

Begovic, Aaron Ramsey, Harry Souttar

 

3 in process of injury recovery and Kristiansen long-term injured 

 

 

[Fox92]

Hope Gary enjoyed Lisbon. He can enjoy more time there after he's kept us up too.

[Fox92]

On 31/03/2026 at 09:26, TheGoldenGod said:

Rowatt not had much of an impact anyway if we're being completely honest. Not all his fault of course, these players let all their previous managers down but he can take a week or two off, won't make a jot of difference to where we're heading!

Aside from the fact he's got us 2 clean sheets in 7 games. When was the last time we had that, September?

[Samilktray]

1 minute ago, Fox92 said:

Aside from the fact he's got us 2 clean sheets in 7 games. When was the last time we had that, September?

Look how far the bar has fallen for us, good grief

[TheGoldenGod]

6 minutes ago, Samilktray said:

Look how far the bar has fallen for us, good grief

I know...its almost not worth replying to but I'll bite anyway!

8 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

Aside from the fact he's got us 2 clean sheets in 7 games. When was the last time we had that, September?

He's taken us from 14th to 22nd btw... WARRA manager! Miss me with that clean sheet nonsense. It's like talking to an NPC, we haven't improved, he's got the 2nd worst PPG of our last 5 managers and if anything we look more toothless upfront!

[VG Fox]

On 30/03/2026 at 16:57, AKCJ said:

https://www.instagram.com/garyrowett1/p/DWep-I9jtdl/

We better not lose both over easter Gary,  we're in the sh*t if you remember