CosbehFox Posted 7 August Posted 7 August 20 hours ago, hackneyfox said: Interesting that people are saying we can't afford to pay £2m for a player and yet here we are turning down offers on Souttar. Perhaps there is a bit more to spend than people think. No, Nelson injured. Can’t afford to let him go yet
CosbehFox Posted 7 August Posted 7 August (edited) 11 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said: We've been rejecting Sheffield Utd's bids for Souttar to the extent that they've almost given up on him. It doesn't appear that we ever really intended to sell him, and we definitely won't now unless we get at least two more in. West Ham interested as well. We are playing this right. Nelson was always a risk of transfer, let alone injury Edited 7 August by CosbehFox 1
kingpowerout Posted 7 August Posted 7 August sounds like Cov are closing in on Gus Hamer. Might give Sheff U the neccessary funds to do the Souttar deal.
kenny Posted 7 August Posted 7 August 8 minutes ago, CosbehFox said: No, Nelson injured. Can’t afford to let him go yet We know Soutter is going, we are just trying to drive the price up. 1
AKCJ Posted 7 August Posted 7 August Yep club captain for me. Clearly got leadership skills and should be a step above anything in League 1. He owes us a season IMO. Only 27 too so it's not like his career is over. He should have another 6/7 years in him.
HowardsBulletHeader Posted 7 August Posted 7 August 19 hours ago, RowlattsFox said: Given we've paid his wages for best part of 3 years for him to be injured the most of it, I think it would be pretty shitty of him to force a move with a transfer request. I understand your point, but from his point of view he was in the Premier League with us and now through our incompetence we are in League One. If your employer was that incompetent, you knew they were perhaps in significant financial difficulty, you'd see the signs you see every day and find another job, right? I don't blame any player that goes, forcing our hands or otherwise. We made this mess.
JimJams Posted 7 August Posted 7 August People saying we need to keep him now moreso because Nelson has a long term injury. Isn't that just as good a reason to suggest we absolutely MUST get him out the door now. Nelson has had bad injuries in recent seasons, looked fit and boom his ACL is fuct. So given Souttars previous injury and it's reoccurence during recovery, should we be taking the risk on him given he's only played a handful of games since returning? Are we not risking the same thing as with Nelson? If he gets injured given his wage and potential market value that's a monumental fxxk up if it comes to fruition. Is he that good that we should risk it? We probably aren't getting Faes and Okoli out the door so like it or not they might be the safer bet. Just been sick in my mouth a bit... 1
slymunn Posted 7 August Posted 7 August 1 minute ago, JimJams said: People saying we need to keep him now moreso because Nelson has a long term injury. Isn't that just as good a reason to suggest we absolutely MUST get him out the door now. Nelson has had bad injuries in recent seasons, looked fit and boom his ACL is fuct. So given Souttars previous injury and it's reoccurence during recovery, should we be taking the risk on him given he's only played a handful of games since returning? Are we not risking the same thing as with Nelson? If he gets injured given his wage and potential market value that's a monumental fxxk up if it comes to fruition. Is he that good that we should risk it? We probably aren't getting Faes and Okoli out the door so like it or not they might be the safer bet. Just been sick in my mouth a bit... I agree with this. The only two seasons where you can say Souttars played a good amount of games was 6/7 years ago. If the money is right I think it would be the right decision to accept it and move on. I would love this to be wrong and he stays, captains and plays 40 plus games but I cannot see it happening.
Jimmy Posted 7 August Posted 7 August If anyone in their last year has an acceptable offer sell, we need to stop losing sellable assets for free, it's a massive part the reason we are in this mess 1
ClaphamFox Posted 7 August Posted 7 August 9 minutes ago, Jimmy said: If anyone in their last year has an acceptable offer sell, we need to stop losing sellable assets for free, it's a massive part the reason we are in this mess Souttar isn't in his last year. 1
LCFCCKEANO Posted 7 August Posted 7 August 1 hour ago, AKCJ said: Yep club captain for me. Clearly got leadership skills and should be a step above anything in League 1. He owes us a season IMO. Only 27 too so it's not like his career is over. He should have another 6/7 years in him. And if the club starts moving in the right direction with momentum we could be a better bet next year in the championship then a lot of teams potentially including Sheff Utd, who seem to be doing a slower version of what we have done. Wouldn’t harm him to do half a year and if it’s all gone tits up go in January 1
coolhandfox Posted 7 August Posted 7 August 49 minutes ago, JimJams said: People saying we need to keep him now moreso because Nelson has a long term injury. Isn't that just as good a reason to suggest we absolutely MUST get him out the door now. Nelson has had bad injuries in recent seasons, looked fit and boom his ACL is fuct. So given Souttars previous injury and it's reoccurence during recovery, should we be taking the risk on him given he's only played a handful of games since returning? Are we not risking the same thing as with Nelson? If he gets injured given his wage and potential market value that's a monumental fxxk up if it comes to fruition. Is he that good that we should risk it? We probably aren't getting Faes and Okoli out the door so like it or not they might be the safer bet. Just been sick in my mouth a bit... Faes is 100% going to go on loan before the close of the window.
Lambert09 Posted 7 August Posted 7 August Genuinely think we might sign his brother as a way to keep him and I don’t hate it.
Scotch Posted 7 August Posted 7 August 5 minutes ago, Lambert09 said: Genuinely think we might sign his brother as a way to keep him and I don’t hate it. That's like buying a nice big lock for your front door and leaving the back one open. 1
Tiny earl Posted 7 August Posted 7 August 14 minutes ago, coolhandfox said: Faes is 100% going to go on loan before the close of the window. Probably not.
AyewJoking Posted 7 August Posted 7 August 2 hours ago, HowardsBulletHeader said: I understand your point, but from his point of view he was in the Premier League with us and now through our incompetence we are in League One. If your employer was that incompetent, you knew they were perhaps in significant financial difficulty, you'd see the signs you see every day and find another job, right? I don't blame any player that goes, forcing our hands or otherwise. We made this mess. if your employer was paying you considerably more than any prospective owners.....
Claridge Posted 7 August Posted 7 August 2 minutes ago, Scotch said: That's like buying a nice big lock for your front door and leaving the back one open. Not if big harrys at the back door
coolhandfox Posted 7 August Posted 7 August 9 minutes ago, Tiny earl said: Probably not. We will see.
Jimmy Posted 7 August Posted 7 August 50 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said: Souttar isn't in his last year. Thought we'd only given him a 3 & half year deal not 5 & half. In that case play hard ball all we want to unless we sign a CB to replace him first
slymunn Posted 7 August Posted 7 August 26 minutes ago, Jimmy said: Thought we'd only given him a 3 & half year deal not 5 & half. In that case play hard ball all we want to unless we sign a CB to replace him first
Scotch Posted 7 August Posted 7 August 36 minutes ago, Claridge said: Not if big harrys at the back door Can't be at the front AND back door you have to have a partner to look out for one of them and I wouldn't trust John Souttar to look out the window.
Popular Post LCFCCKEANO Posted 7 August Popular Post Posted 7 August 8 minutes ago, moore_94 said: Correct stance, very good. If they want to pay muck prices they can take the muck players like Faes and Okoli 6
Popular Post jv1 Posted 7 August Popular Post Posted 7 August (edited) 14 minutes ago, moore_94 said: Love every single word of that the tide is turning on our Russel isn’t it - the abuse he got on here was absolutely horrendous- comes across as a proper decent guy and someone who absolutely knows his football - success or failure will define anyone and everyone but I’m with him and souttar will be an absolute monster in this league and the next one - make him club captain - show him all the love and pray he stays fit - if those things happen he will definitely be one of the difference makers on promotion Edited 7 August by jv1 7
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