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You are kiddin Allen, his colour had nothing to do with it, it was the fact that PT paid £5 mill for him as an accomplished striker and Heskeys replacement and the fact that his finishing was very poor and so was his overall play especially his first touch!!! Now, I beleive he couldn't handle the pressure of the £5 mill tag!!!

I'm not saying that was the only reason but you have to admit he was certainly never given the time we've allowed Fryatt and I wish people wouldn't keep calling AA accomplished he had played at the top level on a few occasions we were taking a risk when we bought him, maybe you are right the price tags was too heavy a burden for him.

I don't want people to think I'm accusing the Leicester fans of racism I just think conciously or subconciously the fans have more patience with white players then they do with white players.

The one that will always stick in my mind the most was Mark Bright he was treated appallingly(and that was racism at it's worse) by the city fans.

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The one that will always stick in my mind the most was Mark Bright he was treated appallingly(and that was racism at it's worse) by the city fans.

I think a lot of that was down to the fact that Bright was the one to replace Lineker in the side as much as anything as I recall more than any other considerations (and did it rather badly)

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Sorry Allen but I think you're way off the mark with the conscious/subconscious racism mark. The reason why many fans are giving Fryatt more time than Akinbiyi is because of the way Fryatt performed last season. He was a sensation in my opinion, and everytime I saw him play I was more than impressed by his skill, touch, movement and technique. He also scored some vital goals for us.

Akinbiyi, on the other hand, was pretty dismal from his very first match. He was here more than a season and was shocking for pretty much all that time. That's why fans got on his back so much. Yes, it was harder for Akinbiyi because he was playing in the Prem whereas Fryatt is only in the Championship, but fans aren't too concerned about that - it's the level of performance delivered regardless of the division we're in.

Besides, Fryatt has been slated on this forum by quite a few people- and justifiably so by the sounds of it.

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Conciously or subconciously and I'm not for one minute suggesting anything untoward regarding why he wasn't given enough time by the fans but I'm sure if he'd had say more of an Anglo Saxon look about him he may have been given a little more time :ph34r:

Can anyone remember les ferdinand being booed?

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Matty Fryatt needs confidence i believe like any other striker does. I don't understand how people are even having akinbiyis name next to Fryatt. Just remember not so long ago people were saying he was the only thing we had decent at the club. I don't think any of our players are hitting form at the moment

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Matty Fryatt needs confidence i believe like any other striker does. I don't understand how people are even having akinbiyis name next to Fryatt. Just remember not so long ago people were saying he was the only thing we had decent at the club. I don't think any of our players are hitting form at the moment

I don't know if Fryatt needs confidence any more than any other player in an under-pressure side.

The problem for Fryatt is that we've all seen him play reasonably well and score a few goals but this season he turned up unfit, never justified being selected for the opening games in my view, got injured, and doesn't seem to have got himself particularly fit or sharp since.

Result is we're paying good money for a striker who's never given himself the best chance of playing to the best of his ability.

And Leicester can't afford to pick players like that. A fit, sharp, keen Fryatt maybe but for now, it's time to give Dodds a long deserved chance that he should have had months ago. Assuming, of course, that he's still fit cos I'm never convinced about anything at Leicester these days.

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I don't know if Fryatt needs confidence any more than any other player in an under-pressure side.

The problem for Fryatt is that we've all seen him play reasonably well and score a few goals but this season he turned up unfit, never justified being selected for the opening games in my view, got injured, and doesn't seem to have got himself particularly fit or sharp since.

Result is we're paying good money for a striker who's never given himself the best chance of playing to the best of his ability.

And Leicester can't afford to pick players like that. A fit, sharp, keen Fryatt maybe but for now, it's time to give Dodds a long deserved chance that he should have had months ago. Assuming, of course, that he's still fit cos I'm never convinced about anything at Leicester these days.

To be fair, your absolutely spot on here. Fryatt may well be suffering from piss poor service, but he also looks un-fit and not took his chances when they've fell to him, even if he's not had many.

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To be fair, your absolutely spot on here. Fryatt may well be suffering from piss poor service, but he also looks un-fit and not took his chances when they've fell to him, even if he's not had many.

Wow.

I agree too!

Flair/TPH/Thracian approval.

It's a winner, surely?

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I don't know if Fryatt needs confidence any more than any other player in an under-pressure side.

The problem for Fryatt is that we've all seen him play reasonably well and score a few goals but this season he turned up unfit, never justified being selected for the opening games in my view, got injured, and doesn't seem to have got himself particularly fit or sharp since.

Result is we're paying good money for a striker who's never given himself the best chance of playing to the best of his ability.

And Leicester can't afford to pick players like that. A fit, sharp, keen Fryatt maybe but for now, it's time to give Dodds a long deserved chance that he should have had months ago. Assuming, of course, that he's still fit cos I'm never convinced about anything at Leicester these days.

I would agree with that. Especially giving somebody else a chance if it is for a couple of games, what would be the harm in that.

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currently patently unfit.

Needs reserve team football which he can't get and unable to regain form/fitness. having to play because of the ineptitude of the other strikers.

long term

needs proper service from wide players who can pull the ball back from the byline so he can attack the near post. do we have any such players no.

he has skill but unfortunately lacks the one real weapon of a top quality striker: pace. without this once a strikers confidence is low he has nothing to fall back on. being surrounded by players of very little ability is not his fault but it doesn't help him either.

without doubt one of the real sufferers from not having a proper reserve structure.

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Fryatt's been treated very poorly in my opinion by the fans. You could say he is on bad form but I disagree. Yes he hasn't been scoring goals like good strikers should but its only because he doesn't get any service whatsoever, as has already been said:

The way we are going we are turning him into a bad player.

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Fryatt's been treated very poorly in my opinion by the fans. You could say he is on bad form but I disagree. Yes he hasn't been scoring goals like good strikers should but its only because he doesn't get any service whatsoever, as has already been said:

The way we are going we are turning him into a bad player.

Something seems wrong. Someone on TB said had a bit of a bust up with Kelly - which made me wonder if he just wants to feel "in" with everyone else cos it's getting hard to think of anyone who hasn't crossed swords with Kelly - at least according to the chat.

Nor do I think it's just Fryatt. There are just too many people, young and older, who are not on the top of their game.

These bust ups that have been mentioned are unhealthy. Every club has them but they blow over in no time. Here it's almost like the midnight knock. People disappear as if they've been transported to the gulag - and not a word.

O'Grady, Maybury, Sylla, Nils, Porter, Dodds really, Ryan Smith and Sheehan before that ... and barely a word on any of them.

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Something seems wrong. Someone on TB said had a bit of a bust up with Kelly - which made me wonder if he just wants to feel "in" with everyone else cos it's getting hard to think of anyone who hasn't crossed swords with Kelly - at least according to the chat.

Nor do I think it's just Fryatt. There are just too many people, young and older, who are not on the top of their game.

These bust ups that have been mentioned are unhealthy. Every club has them but they blow over in no time. Here it's almost like the midnight knock. People disappear as if they've been transported to the gulag - and not a word.

O'Grady, Maybury, Sylla, Nils, Porter, Dodds really, Ryan Smith and Sheehan before that ... and barely a word on any of them.

To me Fryatt does look like an outcast, like the loner of the club.

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He's just had a bad season. Been out of form at the same time the club has a mini crisis.

Cant believe some fans want to get rid of him. We have much bigger problems to deal with.

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He's just had a bad season. Been out of form at the same time the club has a mini crisis.

Cant believe some fans want to get rid of him. We have much bigger problems to deal with.

That's a relief! :thumbup:

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Wow.

I agree too!

Flair/TPH/Thracian approval.

It's a winner, surely?

The Flair/TPH part actually makes me sad. He's 20, So fickel, you both know what he is capable of.

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I've forgotten what I was posting about but my opinion is now in the hands on Jon Blue Fox.

I can't be arsed to have an opinion on this shower anymore.

Manwell - get the football manager going please. I need my fix.

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The Flair/TPH part actually makes me sad. He's 20, So fickel, you both know what he is capable of.

Oi you! Don't put me down as a Fryatt basher, I rate the man big time. I have got to the point though were i'm not going to make excuses up for him. It's time he delivered and if he doesn't then the criticism he gets will probably be valid. If he doesn't succeed here then he will do elsewhere, he's got the minerals.

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Oi you! Don't put me down as a Fryatt basher, I rate the man big time. I have got to the point though were i'm not going to make excuses up for him. It's time he delivered and if he doesn't then the criticism he gets will probably be valid. If he doesn't succeed here then he will do elsewhere, he's got the minerals.

I dunno how's he going to get any kind of confidence or fitness without regular reserve fixtures, hopefully he will play in midweek. Because until he finds his old form we're stuck with Elvis scoreing one goal every 8 games.

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I dunno how's he going to get any kind of confidence or fitness without regular reserve fixtures, hopefully he will play in midweek. Because until he finds his old form we're stuck with Elvis scoreing one goal every 8 games.

That's a bit optimistic - expecting to convert EVERY decent ball from midfield. :D:D

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I feel sorry for the lad. He is clearly unfit, and has put on a bit of weight, which won't help. He needs games to build up his fitness and his confidence, but we can't afford to carry him.

Would it not be unreasonable to loan him out for a month? Given the absence of any other option, surely this must be considered?

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I feel sorry for the lad. He is clearly unfit, and has put on a bit of weight, which won't help. He needs games to build up his fitness and his confidence, but we can't afford to carry him.

Would it not be unreasonable to loan him out for a month? Given the absence of any other option, surely this must be considered?

Possibly, I don't think it needs to come to that though. I can almost guarantee (well I can't, but I can predict) that if we get down to the root of the cause then it can be sorted. Rob Kelly is the main reason for most of our failings. A new manager, a new era and a new confident Matty Fryatt will invariably be born. Send him on an intense fitness programme up until christmas and with a new manager and owner in the new year, I think we'd have back our most lethal attacker.

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I feel sorry for the lad. He is clearly unfit, and has put on a bit of weight, which won't help. He needs games to build up his fitness and his confidence, but we can't afford to carry him.

Would it not be unreasonable to loan him out for a month? Given the absence of any other option, surely this must be considered?

In normal circumstances an excellent idea except:

Dodds was loaned out for the purpose of getting him fit but was then recalled and left to rot. So he'll have lost his edge.

O'Grady seems to have become the latest player to be placed in the Leicester City disappearing capsule and will probably be surplus to requirements when he resurfaces.

Fatty Fryup didn't even get 20 minutes Saturday ... So, we're in the ridiculous situation of having just the two match-ready centre-forwards.

You can just imagine that one of them's about to get injured....

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