Bert Posted 14 September 2009 Posted 14 September 2009 Eh?He was getting shit before and during the game wasn't he? The looks on the faces of some of those Arsenal fans made me laugh. What the fuck is wrong with people that makes them act like animals just because a player gives a bit back. Wankers. 3 match ban for the stamp, no action for the celebration. The End. Bang on mate. How thick are some people? If you're prepared to give out some stick, then be prepared to take the fucker back.
StanSP Posted 14 September 2009 Posted 14 September 2009 Is that the truth? I don't know. Hence the 'apparently' . If it is the truth, I don't know what to make of it. The FA have to make a stand, not question about that and I'm happy about it. But something tells me 6 matches is too much. Although the 6 matches is a combination of the stamping and celebration.
Joe. Posted 14 September 2009 Posted 14 September 2009 Adebayor should get a three match for the stamp without a doubt. No excuses for that. As for the celebration, the booking was necessary in my opinion, but I don't think it needs to go any further than that.
morris1234 Posted 14 September 2009 Posted 14 September 2009 Adebayor should get a three match for the stamp without a doubt. No excuses for that. As for the celebration, the booking was necessary in my opinion, but I don't think it needs to go any further than that. id agree with that! some bloke on ssn made a good point about the adebayor and the fact when he celebrated he stayed on the pitch and was well away from the arsenal fans, its not like he jumped into the crowd (not that he would want to after the fans reaction) or over celebrated which usually warrants a booking. he had been getting stick left right and centre from fans, the press etc so i dont blame him for the reaction, i would have done exactly the same!!! ....just not stamp on my former team mate/friends face!
sdb Posted 14 September 2009 Posted 14 September 2009 Adebayor should get a three match for the stamp without a doubt. No excuses for that. As for the celebration, the booking was necessary in my opinion, but I don't think it needs to go any further than that. i think that's the most sensible option, and actually what i think will be done too
Edmund Posted 14 September 2009 Posted 14 September 2009 I can't believe people are actually getting "angry" about his celebration. Were talking about non Arsenal fans on a Leicester city forum getting angry behind there computer screens over a emotional celebration. Jeez get a grip.
breadandcheese Posted 14 September 2009 Posted 14 September 2009 To be honest, I'd back the FA if they gave Adebayor a 3 match ban for his celebration. There's no denying it was ill-thought and there's no denying it was provocative. There's also no denying that the celebration was extremely funny. I guess the question in my mind is at what point does something become too prevocative that it should be punishable. Should there even be such a thing as "too provocative"? He could have celebrated in so many ways, for example standing where he was and kissing his Man City badge, or standing where he was and waving to the arsenal fans. All of these would have got the same message across without provoking the reaction that led to a steward getting knocked on conscious. Instead, he chose to run the full length of the field and proverbially flick the V's right in the Arsenal fans faces, which put the stewards in that area at risk. This shouldn't be construed as me exonerating the Arsenal fans. I'm not defending them, especially those who threw things onto the pitch, or tried to rush the stewards. They should receive banning orders.
StanSP Posted 14 September 2009 Posted 14 September 2009 Wasn't his excuse something like his mum or sister was in that part of the crowd??
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davieG Posted 14 September 2009 Posted 14 September 2009 To be honest, I'd back the FA if they gave Adebayor a 3 match ban for his celebration. There's no denying it was ill-thought and there's no denying it was provocative. There's also no denying that the celebration was extremely funny. I guess the question in my mind is at what point does something become too prevocative that it should be punishable. Should there even be such a thing as "too provocative"?He could have celebrated in so many ways, for example standing where he was and kissing his Man City badge, or standing where he was and waving to the arsenal fans. All of these would have got the same message across without provoking the reaction that led to a steward getting knocked on conscious. Instead, he chose to run the full length of the field and proverbially flick the V's right in the Arsenal fans faces, which put the stewards in that area at risk. This shouldn't be construed as me exonerating the Arsenal fans. I'm not defending them, especially those who threw things onto the pitch, or tried to rush the stewards. They should receive banning orders. You suggest a 3 match ban and then question where does provocation start and finish , I suspect the mood the Arsenal fans were in they would have over reacted just as much to a badge kiss as the run. Next people will be advocating amendments to the rules of football on how people can celebrate a goal. To my mind there's simply no justification for the Arsenal fans or any other fans that get all uppity with this type of thing. If they hadn't have over reacted no one would be talking about the way he celebrated. All attention should be on his violent attack not some airy fairy goal celebration.
Wilkesy Posted 14 September 2009 Posted 14 September 2009 That's what football is all about, a local lad heading a late winner in a derby match in front of a packed away end. Fantastic stuff. Spot on, the stuff that dreams are made of
Edmund Posted 14 September 2009 Posted 14 September 2009 You suggest a 3 match ban and then question where does provocation start and finish , I suspect the mood the Arsenal fans were in they would have over reacted just as much to a badge kiss as the run. Next people will be advocating amendments to the rules of football on how people can celebrate a goal.To my mind there's simply no justification for the Arsenal fans or any other fans that get all uppity with this type of thing. If they hadn't have over reacted no one would be talking about the way he celebrated. All attention should be on his violent attack not some airy fairy goal celebration. Spot on
breadandcheese Posted 14 September 2009 Posted 14 September 2009 You suggest a 3 match ban and then question where does provocation start and finish , I suspect the mood the Arsenal fans were in they would have over reacted just as much to a badge kiss as the run. Next people will be advocating amendments to the rules of football on how people can celebrate a goal.To my mind there's simply no justification for the Arsenal fans or any other fans that get all uppity with this type of thing. If they hadn't have over reacted no one would be talking about the way he celebrated. All attention should be on his violent attack not some airy fairy goal celebration. Sorry, I'd already asked the question whether his celebration was too provocative and come up with the answer of a 3 match ban. I just didn't post my point correctly. The fact is, there are already rules in place from FIFA for how you can celebrate a goal. Whip your shirt off after scoring, yellow card. Display a T-shirt with a political message, punishment is to be expected. The rules are in place. There is no justification for the Arsenal fans reaction, but the two should be punished equally. I do believe that if Adebayor had kissed the Man City badge where he was, rather than run 90 yards, they wouldn't have thrown things onto the pitch, nor tried to rush the stewards. Yes, they would have booed, they would have chanted, but no violence. The difficulty in articulating either position on this issue is that it can seem like you're exonerating the other side, which I'm not seeking to do. Either way, the issue of provocation needs to be discussed more, not just in football, as to what constitutes a punishable offence in itself.
davieG Posted 14 September 2009 Posted 14 September 2009 Sorry, I'd already asked the question whether his celebration was too provocative and come up with the answer of a 3 match ban. I just didn't post my point correctly.The fact is, there are already rules in place from FIFA for how you can celebrate a goal. Whip your shirt off after scoring, yellow card. Display a T-shirt with a political message, punishment is to be expected. The rules are in place. There is no justification for the Arsenal fans reaction, but the two should be punished equally. I do believe that if Adebayor had kissed the Man City badge where he was, rather than run 90 yards, they wouldn't have thrown things onto the pitch, nor tried to rush the stewards. Yes, they would have booed, they would have chanted, but no violence. The difficulty in articulating either position on this issue is that it can seem like you're exonerating the other side, which I'm not seeking to do. Either way, the issue of provocation needs to be discussed more, not just in football, as to what constitutes a punishable offence in itself. Besides the run it wasn't provocative at all just exuberant, he didn't gesture in an aggressive way. That being the case for all those who feel it was wrong we'd need to legislate how far someone can run and where they can ran to as a measure of how provocative they're being. The punishable actions you listed are all definable this isn't, kissing a badge has been deemed provocative by many should that go on the list? The solution is for fans to get real, if they can't take this type of celebration after all the shit they dish out then they should stop going.
Edmund Posted 14 September 2009 Posted 14 September 2009 There is no justification for the Arsenal fans reaction, but the two should be punished equally. I do believe that if Adebayor had kissed the Man City badge where he was, rather than run 90 yards, they wouldn't have thrown things onto the pitch, nor tried to rush the stewards. Yes, they would have booed, they would have chanted, but no violence. The difficulty in articulating either position on this issue is that it can seem like you're exonerating the other side, which I'm not seeking to do. At the end of the day it's only football. The celebration wasn't malicious and is nothing new. See Henry above, Neville, Rooney, im sure the list goes on. Put yourself in his shoes. You have just scored for your new team against your ex in front of thousands to make it 3-1 after being taunted with chants throughout the game. Emotions got the better of him and he is only human. How can somebody sliding on there knees want you to be violent. Ive said it once and Il say it again you should not be at football if it angers you to see an ex player celebrating in front of you no matter the circumstances IT IS ONLY A GAME. If the FA ban him for the celebration then they've just about sucked out the last of any emotion the game has left.
Bryn Posted 14 September 2009 Posted 14 September 2009 It's inconceivable that Adebayor can be banned for the celebration, what a load of fuss about nothing. Deserved a booking, got a booking, end of. The stamp, on the other hand, was appalling. 5 match ban.
Hugo Sanchez Posted 14 September 2009 Posted 14 September 2009 Ban the c**t for a season, i hate the way he's came out and tried to make Arsenal look like fools. They made his career, wasn't for them taking a chance on him. He'd still be playing his football in France.
Fox92 Posted 14 September 2009 Posted 14 September 2009 Ban the c**t for a season, i hate the way he's came out and tried to make Arsenal look like fools. They made his career, wasn't for them taking a chance on him. He'd still be playing his football in France. Agreed. I can't believe people are actually getting "angry" about his celebration. Were talking about non Arsenal fans on a Leicester city forum getting angry behind there computer screens over a emotional celebration.Jeez get a grip. Whats the point in having a match of the day thread then? This is a thread about all 20 Premiership clubs, none of which are Leicester City F.C. Jeez delete the thread then.
Edmund Posted 14 September 2009 Posted 14 September 2009 Whats the point in having a match of the day thread then? This is a thread about all 20 Premiership clubs, none of which are Leicester City F.C.Jeez delete the thread then. Well obviously this is a match of the day thread thanks for pointing that out Sherlock but I just find it laughable how angry you are getting over nothing.
StanSP Posted 14 September 2009 Posted 14 September 2009 Well obviously this is a match of the day thread thanks for pointing that out Sherlock but I just find it laughable how angry you are getting over nothing. To you it's nothing. For others it may mean more
Samilktray Posted 14 September 2009 Posted 14 September 2009 Catching feelings over this. Its pretty damn fucking funny.
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