Samilktray Posted 8 April 2007 Share Posted 8 April 2007 According to the news of the world (dont know hwo true this is going to be) Milans lined up Paul Ince as the man to take over from kelly. Thougths.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geo V Posted 8 April 2007 Share Posted 8 April 2007 Please god no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potter3 Posted 8 April 2007 Share Posted 8 April 2007 Thracian works for the NOTW? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilworthfox Posted 8 April 2007 Share Posted 8 April 2007 According to the news of the world (dont know hwo true this is going to be) Milans lined up Paul Ince as the man to take over from kelly.Thougths.... Bang on! thats what the word is up the pub also! could be a nasty rumor but he has done a cracking job at Macclesfield, I would have him just because i'm not thrilled about any other name mentioned, not that i'm thrilled about ince as he missed that pen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nath Posted 8 April 2007 Share Posted 8 April 2007 I would rather keep Kelly than have Ince Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted 8 April 2007 Share Posted 8 April 2007 According to the news of the world (dont know hwo true this is going to be) Milans lined up Paul Ince as the man to take over from kelly.Thougths.... IMO he'd do no better! And this is the main fear for me, Yes Kelly needs to go but i'm worried were not going to attract anyone decent. There's noone decent availiable (IMO) so thats means buying someone out of a contract, thats leads to asking clubs, clubs will no doubt turn us down, and if we do get past the clubs we have to make a more than decent offer to the manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynny Posted 8 April 2007 Share Posted 8 April 2007 Fucking brilliant! It's a gamble, but a well calculated one and in my opinion one that could pay off very, very nicely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted 8 April 2007 Share Posted 8 April 2007 Bang on! thats what the word is up the pub also! could be a nasty rumor but he has done a cracking job at Macclesfield, I would have him just because i'm not thrilled about any other name mentioned, not that i'm thrilled about ince as he missed that pen! I said this last week I think. So basically he's done a good job a Macclesfield, well done to him, its his first job, However Peter Taylor does a good job at lower level clubs FFS! Another point and this is the point I mention last week...You happy for a the short term fix like we've gone for, for the past 4 or 5 fooking years are you?! He'll come in do an ok job at first then go downhill no doubt, but its ok because Milans got the money now I wish people would stop looking at the short term fix! FFS! P.S - Correct Paul Ince or any other manager may turn out to be the man for us he may be a good manager who knows? But who knew RK wasn't the man for us when he first started and IMO its too risky for us to give that kind of chance to a fairly unexperience manager! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted 8 April 2007 Share Posted 8 April 2007 one thing that Ince has over Kelly and that is RESPECT. he is respected as a player amongst fellow pros and has a reputation as a winner, I would imagine much like Keane at Sunderland that when he speaks fellow footballers sit back, listen and take in what he is saying. he has always had the mentality of a winner and has been there and done it at the highest level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted 8 April 2007 Share Posted 8 April 2007 I'd have him in a heartbeat. I'd like to see Keegan overseeing in some kind of Director of Football role but I'm not sure thats likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STUHILL Posted 8 April 2007 Share Posted 8 April 2007 NO!! Not a gamble i would be willing to take! I would prefer someone with more experience and not a lower league manager! Rumour is Chris Coleman could be out in Summer, doubt it BUT would like him here! Otherwise I would prefer Newell even though he is such a WHINGER!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 8 April 2007 Share Posted 8 April 2007 I said this last week I think.So basically he's done a good job a Macclesfield, well done to him, its his first job, However Peter Taylor does a good job at lower level clubs FFS! Another point and this is the point I mention last week...You happy for a the short term fix like we've gone for, for the past 4 or 5 fooking years are you?! He'll come in do an ok job at first then go downhill no doubt, but its ok because Milans got the money now I wish people would stop looking at the short term fix! FFS! P.S - Correct Paul Ince or any other manager may turn out to be the man for us he may be a good manager who knows? But who knew RK wasn't the man for us when he first started and IMO its too risky for us to give that kind of chance to a fairly unexperience manager! Might as well not hire any manager then. No manager out there that we can get has a 100% track record, and none of them are guaranteed to do a good job. Wonder if Sunderland fans said the same when Keanes name was mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted 8 April 2007 Share Posted 8 April 2007 Might as well not hire any manager then. No manager out there that we can get has a 100% track record, and none of them are guaranteed to do a good job.Wonder if Sunderland fans said the same when Keanes name was mentioned. Thing is if I was a footballer i'd be scared of Keane and I wouldn't of Ince! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevosevic Posted 8 April 2007 Share Posted 8 April 2007 At least Ince would be able to attract some players of quality, he would also have the ambition to go and get them, unlike RK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mort Posted 8 April 2007 Share Posted 8 April 2007 I’m indifferent about Ince really… he’s as qualified as Kean IMHO and could do a job, he’s miles better than what we have at the moment but that’s not saying much (!). Overall I’d probably prefer Newell from what options are available… but I wouldn’t be dead set against Ince as I think he’s competent but still something of an unknown quantity. I would rather keep Kelly than have Ince No you wouldn’t!... and if you would you clearly like the unfit, unmotivated, incompetent excuse for a football team RK seems to specialise in! At least Ince would be able to attract some players of quality, he would also have the ambition to go and get them, unlike RK Very much like Kean... still think it says somthing that Kean could walk into a job at Sunderland and yet Ince had to take a job at the bottom of League 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geo V Posted 8 April 2007 Share Posted 8 April 2007 Bang on! thats what the word is up the pub also! could be a nasty rumor but he has done a cracking job at Macclesfield, I would have him just because i'm not thrilled about any other name mentioned, not that i'm thrilled about ince as he missed that pen! Macclesfield finished 17th last season and started this season poorly but had a decent squad at that level and were under-achieving. Ince has done well in taking them from bottom to 4th bottom with 6 games to go and looks odds-on to save them from relegation. How is that a cracking job???!! Its a good job but he has hardly done a Dowie and guided a club from the lower end of the table to the play-offs! Its a decent/good job, thats all and all this stuff about him as a manager are premature to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mort Posted 8 April 2007 Share Posted 8 April 2007 Macclesfield finished 17th last season and started this season poorly but had a decent squad at that level and were under-achieving. Ince has done well in taking them from bottom to 4th bottom with 6 games to go and looks odds-on to save them from relegation. How is that a cracking job???!! Its a good job but he has hardly done a Dowie and guided a club from the lower end of the table to the play-offs! Its a decent/good job, thats all and all this stuff about him as a manager are premature to say the least. In all fairness, didnt Macclesfield have a 15 point deduction at the start of the season for going in admin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geo V Posted 8 April 2007 Share Posted 8 April 2007 In all fairness, didnt Macclesfield have a 15 point deduction at the start of the season for going in admin? I dont think so. I can remember them being 8 or 9 points off safety when Ince took over so they had an uphill task but with 3/4s of the season to go it was hardly impossible. All you have to do is to look at the top and bottom ends of the table in the Premiership to know that things change quickly if results go your way over a week or two! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
escape2victory Posted 8 April 2007 Share Posted 8 April 2007 Macclesfield finished 17th last season and started this season poorly but had a decent squad at that level and were under-achieving. Ince has done well in taking them from bottom to 4th bottom with 6 games to go and looks odds-on to save them from relegation. How is that a cracking job???!! Its a good job but he has hardly done a Dowie and guided a club from the lower end of the table to the play-offs! Its a decent/good job, thats all and all this stuff about him as a manager are premature to say the least. When he took over Macclesfield they were marooned at the foot of the table, i think 12 points adrift of the nearest team. So he has basically transformed their form from relegation certs to now looking odds on to stay up, which constitutes doing a "cracking job". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilworthfox Posted 8 April 2007 Share Posted 8 April 2007 Macclesfield finished 17th last season and started this season poorly but had a decent squad at that level and were under-achieving. Ince has done well in taking them from bottom to 4th bottom with 6 games to go and looks odds-on to save them from relegation. How is that a cracking job???!! Its a good job but he has hardly done a Dowie and guided a club from the lower end of the table to the play-offs! Its a decent/good job, thats all and all this stuff about him as a manager are premature to say the least. Saving a club from relegation in any circumstance is a cracking job! Ask Macclesfield fans if they want him to go? He has done a good job as you say, its all about amounts of praise i suppose is one mans cracking anothers good if so we agree! if not have another bite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geo V Posted 8 April 2007 Share Posted 8 April 2007 When he took over Macclesfield they were marooned at the foot of the table, i think 12 points adrift of the nearest team. So he has basically transformed their form from relegation certs to now looking odds on to stay up, which constitutes doing a "cracking job". You can look at it how you like and have your own definition of a "cracking" job but I dont think that he has done enough or has enough about him to be given a club like ours so early in his managerial career. Im not suggesting that he wont one day make a good manager as he may well be but we are a big side at this level that deserves a manager who has more of a chance in doing the business for us than Ince who would be one hell of a gamble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilworthfox Posted 8 April 2007 Share Posted 8 April 2007 You can look at it how you like and have your own definition of a "cracking" job but I dont think that he has done enough or has enough about him to be given a club like ours so early in his managerial career. Im not suggesting that he wont one day make a good manager as he may well be but we are a big side at this level that deserves a manager who has more of a chance in doing the business for us than Ince who would be one hell of a gamble. I have to say all this business about learning trades as far a a football manager goes is horseshit! Cloughie, O'Neill, Keane, SAF, Mourinho, Wenger, all top guys good at every job as far as i can recall I believe if your good enough on the 1st day you are on the last, Keane does not look like he needed to be told that he has to go to Accrington then come back in a few years. SAF, O'Neill did start lower down with respective clubs they obviously picked something up but if O'Neill started at LCFc for example are you saying he would have done a bad job? Would Tony Adams or Bryan Robson after 10 years at Chester be better equipt to manage LCFC? Who knows who cares Ince will be better than the shite RK has dished up for the last 12 months! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted 8 April 2007 Share Posted 8 April 2007 You can look at it how you like and have your own definition of a "cracking" job but I dont think that he has done enough or has enough about him to be given a club like ours so early in his managerial career. Im not suggesting that he wont one day make a good manager as he may well be but we are a big side at this level that deserves a manager who has more of a chance in doing the business for us than Ince who would be one hell of a gamble. So was Keane and look at the job he has done at Sunderland. Every manager will be a risk of one kind or another. I wouldn't say no to Newell and Coleman is definitely a good punt but all of them carry a risk of one kind or another. The one thing Ince would certainly have is the respect of the players- he'd soon sort out the questionable fitness levels in our squad! And if we COULD get Keegan in as Director of Football alongside him I'd be VERY happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilworthfox Posted 8 April 2007 Share Posted 8 April 2007 So was Keane and look at the job he has done at Sunderland.Every manager will be a risk of one kind or another. I wouldn't say no to Newell and Coleman is definitely a good punt but all of them carry a risk of one kind or another. The one thing Ince would certainly have is the respect of the players- he'd soon sort out the questionable fitness levels in our squad! And if we COULD get Keegan in as Director of Football alongside him I'd be VERY happy. I'm glad there is an if thereas i think that is fantasy Don't you think that this director of football is all a bit of a half measure? To me it says well we don't have full confidence in the manager so we will have a bloke who has done some good before but he's too old for the job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simi Posted 8 April 2007 Share Posted 8 April 2007 Interesting rumour. Obviously he has little experience but he has done a good job all be it at a League 2 side. I think it would be a step up to far if he was to come here. Ok, it worked with Keane but if Milan wants to stick to this 3 year plan I think it would be a huge gamble. If we can afford to wait until the end of the season then I would not want Ince. What happened to Newell anyway I thought it was certain he was coming here. I also agree that if he was to come I would like to see him with somebody that is experienced and that can help him along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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